Got a problem with hiding true information about relationship

[ekaterina1984]

Being enagaged we applied for a visitor visa , but specified my relationship to my fiance as ''dear friend'' in my application We were sure about refusal by telling the truth . But I was turned down with the visa anyway. Now we are married and applying for shponsorship .I don't think that we did something like criminal , but I'm confused now . : have anyone been in the same situation?

 

[Kiwi12]

What part of the misrepresentation are confused about?

 

[McDutch]

Why did you think putting "dear friend" was the right thing to do?
How did you prove your relationship to your dear friend?

This smells fishy

 

[rg2012]

Being enagaged we applied for a visitor visa , but specified my relationship to my fiance as ''dear friend'' in my application We were sure about refusal by telling the truth . But I was turned down with the visa anyway. Now we are married and applying for shponsorship .I don't think that we did something like criminal , but I'm confused now . : have anyone been in the same situation?

I doubt it will be an issue, but you should be careful the next time. You need to be truthful.

 

[lunas]

Being enagaged we applied for a visitor visa , but specified my relationship to my fiance as ''dear friend'' in my application We were sure about refusal by telling the truth . But I was turned down with the visa anyway. Now we are married and applying for shponsorship .I don't think that we did something like criminal , but I'm confused now . : have anyone been in the same situation?

Lying to CIC is never a good idea but if you want our opinions, I think there are bigger fish to fry and I don't think they will refuse your application because of your initial visitor's visa application opps. Just my opinion, let's hope they are having a good day when they review your application :

 

[clon]

The fact that you applied for the visitor visa before marriage, and you stated your relationship as a dear friend I think it's okay, the officer will think that you got married to your dear friend which is fine.

 

[truesmile]

I think you'll be fine too! They're smart cookies, and prolly read between the lines and intrepreted 'dear friend' as 'fiancee' anyway, which would be why it was refused. I agree with other poster, marrying your 'dear friend' is not fishy at all.

 

[tamarindball]

That's fine plus as it's not like you were calling your spouse your dear friend plus I believe it's two different processes and offices anyway. When I applied for an extension to stay vs PR, CIC told me that one hand doesn't know what the other was doing as it's two different office so info is not shared etc. I am sure same would apply for visitors visa and sponsorship application. Hope that helps.

Being enagaged we applied for a visitor visa , but specified my relationship to my fiance as ''dear friend'' in my application We were sure about refusal by telling the truth . But I was turned down with the visa anyway. Now we are married and applying for shponsorship .I don't think that we did something like criminal , but I'm confused now . : have anyone been in the same situation?
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[Steph C]

We did the same thing when applying for my partner's visitors visa in November 2009 (denied twice). He had no intention of overstaying as we both already had work contracts overseas starting in January 2010. He was going to visit for Christmas. The reason we put him down as a friend of mine and not a partner is that he was married in a country with no divorce, and although they were not living together we were afraid that disclosing our relationship in that light would bring down all sorts of judgement upon us. We didn't know the rules of CIC at that time, or even that our relationship would be seen as legitimate to CIC because at that point we could have been common-law but didn't know it. On his visitor's application form, as requested, he listed his wife, because she is still legally his wife, but of course residing at a different address then his. So that's why we said we were friends. We had no idea that he would be denied or that chances for denial when in a relationship are higher. I worry about it sometimes as well and hope it doesn't affect his visa now. I wonder how many details they keep on file.

 

[RajaJi]

I don't think mentioning your fiancée as dear friend on a visitor visa application (denied) will have any or much affect on the sponsorship application. VO may take a positive view of the fact that you are now married to your 'dear friend/fiancée'. Good luck. Take Care.

 

[Kiwi12]

I totally disagree. Now when the sponsorship application is being processed the CIC will be reading all about the relationship, how it began, the visits, the emails, the texts, the time on Skype, the cards, the family relationship, the engagement, engagement party, presents and oh yes, the attempt to visit your "dear friend"????. I can assure you that the CIC knows about everything you do. On one hand you want to convince them that your relationship is genuine, long lasting and that you are truly in love and at the same time you want them to believe that this is just your "dear friend". Which is it?

Nobody can answer whether or not this sponsorship will go through or be denied but if there are any doubts in the CIC's mind about the relationship being genuine, this will definitely be brought up and you will have to answer to it and I am sure they have heard every excuse there is.

This is strictly my opinion. I have no interest in judging anyone or their relationship.

 

[Tipha]

You could have said "boyfriend/girlfriend", thats what i did, although we knew we wanted to get married but we werent clear yet when and where, i came for 3 weeks to visit. He IS my partner, it would have been way too wrong and not the truth to just refer to him as friend or dear friend and even less a reason to go visit him, so "boyfriend" was not wrong and enough reason to let me in. But its already done now for you and since you have to explain in the application when your relationship started and when you visited each other and such (your whole story), it wouldnt match that you between referred to him as "just a dear friend", it might raises questions/flags for CIC and cause you some problems, but it shouldnt be a refusal right away, thats my guess...

So i have to agree with Kiwi12. Besides that the chances to get a visitor visa refusal is anyway pretty high unless you have solid prove of ties to your home country! thats about it, the reason why you come isnt the most important and its better to be as truefully as you can than to lie in any way. At least even with refusal you know you didnt do anything wrong, you were honest. Neither is it nice to refer to your spouse as something less than he/she is... I know its hard not to be able to visit each other! Ive been there too!!! But to cause less problems in the end, just try to be as truefully as you can in everything, theres always hard times, this whole distances relationship is hard plus the process of immigration, dont make it any harder from the start.

 

[ekaterina1984]

I totally disagree. Now when the sponsorship application is being processed the CIC will be reading all about the relationship, how it began, the visits, the emails, the texts, the time on Skype, the cards, the family relationship, the engagement, engagement party, presents and oh yes, the attempt to visit your "dear friend"????. I can assure you that the CIC knows about everything you do. On one hand you want to convince them that your relationship is genuine, long lasting and that you are truly in love and at the same time you want them to believe that this is just your "dear friend". Which is it?

Nobody can answer whether or not this sponsorship will go through or be denied but if there are any doubts in the CIC's mind about the relationship being genuine, this will definitely be brought up and you will have to answer to it and I am sure they have heard every excuse there is.

This is strictly my opinion. I have no interest in judging anyone or their relationship.

I totally agree with you , you are right We just wanted to try our luck. We presented each other as dear friends because had doubts about whether the visa will be issued or not if we present the truth . as far as I know we couldn't apply for fiancee visa that's why we applied for a visitor I wanted to meet my husband 's family so much and see his life in Canada . But I was not allowed to come to visit my fiance . If we told the truth I wouldn't be allowed anyway. I have read many stories about how young unmarried women were turned down with visitor visa when their boyfriends or fiance invite them to come to Canada, and we decided don't tell the truth. let us suppose If I applied for tourist visa and I would be allowed then I come to Canada as tourist but it's not true anyway ,a purpose of my visit to meet my fiance and his family and after my '' ''tourist's '' trip I apply for sponsorship will there doubts on the CIC's mind then? so first time I conviced them that my trip to Canada to see this lovely country . and after that I try to convince them that our relationship wih my husband is genuine .I think if it is allowed to come to Canada to meet their fiances it wouldn't be so scared to tell truth . I was denied because couldn't prove that I would return to my home country after my stay in Canada and on going ties to my countryof residence.
anyway thank you so much for your comment , I think I will enclose a cover letter with explanations in it why we did that way.
Although I have never thought that people who absolutely dont know me either my lover husnabd will decide whether our relationship is genuine or not . never thought that someone will control my life , sometimes I think it's crazy.
don;t take it offencive it's just my opinion.

 

[Tipha]

From now be honest to them, explain all in your application! be as honest as possible. Your chances are much higher if you explain all this than letting them get suspicious about it in the first place or raise any flags. Attach an extra sheet if theres no space to write the whole explanation. Anywhere where questions could be raised in your application, where something isnt clear for them, explain it. Hope that can help you and others that have the same problem.

 

[Kiwi12]

Nobody on this forum likes the control the CIC has over our relationship decisions. It is stressful, demeaning and emotionally draining. However the fact of the matter is they are the guardian, judge and jury and they have the power to make any decision they want. Best thing to do is not to aggravate the situation from the start.

Our job is to provide them with truthful facts and as much relationship information as possible to present solid and air tight evidence of a genuine relationship.

I absolutely hold nothing against you for wanting to see Canada and spend time with your loved one and his family. I don't want you to make this mistake again and I sincerely wish you the best of luck.