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toben

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Feb 10, 2015
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Vancouver, BC
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That would be very good news and this behavior would actually make sense.

For PNP I guess it would come down to the individual programs whether or not they would revoke the 600 points. BC PNP is not very clear about that in their FAQs which I interpret as a good thing.
 

hulahoop

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Feb 19, 2015
270
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Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12-01-2015
AOR Received.
13-02-2015
IELTS Request
12-06-2015
I'd be really interested in anyone else's experiences if anybody wants to give them a call... just choose option 7 from the start menu, they don't even ask for your ID! :)
 

colorblind

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Apr 3, 2013
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Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Called.asked.
Got a very disclaiming answer.


The change might and might not affect the application.
 

hulahoop

Hero Member
Feb 19, 2015
270
13
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12-01-2015
AOR Received.
13-02-2015
IELTS Request
12-06-2015
OK thanks for the update.

I've called three times about different things and asked for their opinions at the time.

2 said "no it won't affect it" and 1 said "it wouldn't have affected it before Express Entry but we don't know now, you should check directly with the EE office."
 

hulahoop

Hero Member
Feb 19, 2015
270
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Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12-01-2015
AOR Received.
13-02-2015
IELTS Request
12-06-2015
If you call them, when they start reading out options if you tap option 7 (and then 1) you'll go through to a helpline.
 

MONKUCHA

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Oct 6, 2014
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Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
ALBERTA
NOC Code......
2253
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
8/17/15
Nomination.....
06/19/15
AOR Received.
11/16/15
Med's Request
05/02/16 UPFRONT
Med's Done....
05/02/16
Change in circumstance declared after an e-application has been submitted

To assess an application on A11.2, a processing office must consider the information in an applicant’s profile at the time of the draw and the information provided when the applicant submits their e-APR. After an e-APR is submitted, an application cannot be refused due to a change in circumstance unless

the officer determines that the change happened before the applicant submitted their e-APR and that the change would have caused the applicant to be refused on A11.2 – and therefore, the application should be refused on A11.2; or
the change in circumstance means the applicant no longer meets the minimum requirements of the program to which they are applying – and therefore, the application may still meet the requirements of A11.2 but can be refused on program requirements.
For example, if an applicant marries before they submit their e-APR, but only informs CIC of the marriage after they submit their e-APR, the marriage can be taken into account as part of the A11.2 assessment.

If, however, an applicant marries after they submit their e-APR, then informs CIC of the marriage, the marriage cannot be taken into account as part of the A11.2 assessment. The change in circumstance may, however, affect whether the applicant still meets program requirements. See below for details.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/express/refuse.asp
 

colorblind

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Apr 3, 2013
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Job Offer........
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this is the most useful info untill now. thanks for posting that!

there is still hope in this forum...
 

luck999

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Apr 14, 2015
41
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MONKUCHA said:
Change in circumstance declared after an e-application has been submitted

To assess an application on A11.2, a processing office must consider the information in an applicant's profile at the time of the draw and the information provided when the applicant submits their e-APR. After an e-APR is submitted, an application cannot be refused due to a change in circumstance unless

the officer determines that the change happened before the applicant submitted their e-APR and that the change would have caused the applicant to be refused on A11.2 – and therefore, the application should be refused on A11.2; or
the change in circumstance means the applicant no longer meets the minimum requirements of the program to which they are applying – and therefore, the application may still meet the requirements of A11.2 but can be refused on program requirements.
For example, if an applicant marries before they submit their e-APR, but only informs CIC of the marriage after they submit their e-APR, the marriage can be taken into account as part of the A11.2 assessment.

If, however, an applicant marries after they submit their e-APR, then informs CIC of the marriage, the marriage cannot be taken into account as part of the A11.2 assessment. The change in circumstance may, however, affect whether the applicant still meets program requirements. See below for details.
thanks for your help my employer start giving me shit behavior as i am on LMIA he refuse to give me T4 and now i am fired but i have already have AOR just want to know should i complaint to ESDC or not
 

PJR3055

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Nov 18, 2013
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luck999 said:
thanks for your help my employer start giving me *censored word* behavior as i am on LMIA he refuse to give me T4 and now i am fired but i have already have AOR just want to know should i complaint to ESDC or not
I guess you need to inform Service canada regarding your T4 and CIC about job loss !!
 

luck999

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Apr 14, 2015
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PJR3055 said:
I guess you need to inform Service canada regarding your T4 and CIC about job loss !!
well to be honest i want it too ..but my only thing i am worried about my ee profile what if visa officer call my employer and he gave a false statement for no reason (who knows he is a greedy guy) my whole life i waited for this moment and my file will be trashed in a minute (literally scared) . thats all i am worried about ,,, you guys give me a idea what should i do will it effects my ee or i should just keep quite till a decision. please help
 

PJR3055

Star Member
Nov 18, 2013
90
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luck999 said:
well to be honest i want it too ..but my only thing i am worried about my ee profile what if visa officer call my employer and he gave a false statement for no reason (who knows he is a greedy guy) my whole life i waited for this moment and my file will be trashed in a minute (literally scared) . thats all i am worried about ,,, you guys give me a idea what should i do will it effects my ee or i should just keep quite till a decision. please help
Oh bouy !!... Seriously no idea how CIC would react in your case !!.. How did you submit application with out T4. what have you shown in employment records !! ??
 

bubson

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Oct 19, 2014
14
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PJR3055 said:
Oh bouy !!... Seriously no idea how CIC would react in your case !!.. How did you submit application with out T4. what have you shown in employment records !! ??
If you were fired after receiving AOR you are fine. After sending your application your profile is locked and any change in your situation shouldn't affect your application.

Your employer was supposed to give you T4 by the and of February 2015 (by law) Not sure if you can complaint but I know that if you want to file a taxes but you don't have T4 you have to give CRA an explanation letter in which you have to say why you don't have T4 and what did you do to obtain one. You can explain situation with your employer. For tax you have to calculate your income using pay stabs and any other documents such as bank statements or copies of check. If you use accountants services they should know what to do.

You don't have to inform CIC that you were fired. They usually don't call employers they might check the company online but they don't call (in 90% of cases). If in any stage they ask you for t4 you can explain them why you don't have one. I guess as a confirmation of employment you sent pay stabs and letter from employer so you should be fine. Just do your taxes just in case they ask for notice of assessment.
 

Intocanada

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Mar 18, 2014
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The AOR document says the below

Let us know
If your circumstances change you have to let us know. To notify CIC of changes to your application, visit select the office that serves the country in which you are living, and follow the directions for "Case Specific Enquiry."
More particularly, please inform us about any:
• Change in circumstances such as the loss of a job offer or a Provincial or Territorial nomination;
• Change in family composition including new born children, adopted children, divorce, marriage etc;
• Change of address, including change of e-mail address;
• Change of immigration representative;
• Request to withdraw your application;

Now, will loss of jobs effect your application no body is sure. But you have to inform them. In case, they come to know(I have seen cases where CIC is contacting employers) the situation might be difficult.
 

luck999

Full Member
Apr 14, 2015
41
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bubson said:
If you were fired after receiving AOR you are fine. After sending your application your profile is locked and any change in your situation shouldn't affect your application.

Your employer was supposed to give you T4 by the and of February 2015 (by law) Not sure if you can complaint but I know that if you want to file a taxes but you don't have T4 you have to give CRA an explanation letter in which you have to say why you don't have T4 and what did you do to obtain one. You can explain situation with your employer. For tax you have to calculate your income using pay stabs and any other documents such as bank statements or copies of check. If you use accountants services they should know what to do.

You don't have to inform CIC that you were fired. They usually don't call employers they might check the company online but they don't call (in 90% of cases). If in any stage they ask you for t4 you can explain them why you don't have one. I guess as a confirmation of employment you sent pay stabs and letter from employer so you should be fine. Just do your taxes just in case they ask for notice of assessment.
HE JUST GAVE ME LETTERS SHOWING SALARY DUTIES AND OTHER THINGS ON COMPANY LETTER HEAD AND STAMP //HE GAVE ME T4 HOUR AGO BUT NOW HE SAID HE DONT HAVE PAY STUBS FROM FEB TO TILL DATE WHICH IS OTHER PROBLEM FOR ME// I AM WONDERING HE DIDNT SHOW MY HOURS TO CRA SO THAT HE CAN PUT TAXES IN HIS POCKET WHICH HE DEDUCT FROM MY SALARY...AS I AWARE OF MY EE I THINK HE WANT TO MAKE MONEY OUT OF ME ...
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK I SHOULD DO..
BIG BIG THANKS FOR YOUR HELP/CONCERN.. :'( :'(