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stellahello

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I applied for Canadian Citizenship and have been waiting for the oath. But my hubby wants to live another country as he has the citizenship there. What I want to know is that if I give up Canadian citizenship, could I still hold permanent resident status or will I become a visitor and be required to obtain work permit/study permit if I want to stay longer? My PR would have expired in 2019 if I hadn’t become a Canadian citizen.
 

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hi there my personal suggestion will be if you are waiting for oath take the citizenship and then travel or move wherever you want as its life and things can change with that being said if for your husband's citizenship country if they allow you to have dual citizen that will be good for you if not you can take your citizenship application back if still in process. you will still be PR.
But then if stage comes to renew your PR that will be a problem if you won't live in Canada for 2 yrs. as per residency requirement.
so as I said in beginning to make things easier going forward better to take Canadian citizen and then can live wherever you want with your family.
 

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You don;t need work permit/visitor visa till 2019 when ur PR card expires. But after that you have to give up your PR status as well if you don't meet the residency obligations.

But if you complete your citizenship process now, and move after becoming canadian citizen, you are citizen for life. You can come and leave Canada anytime u want.

My suggestion if you are at last stage of citizenship don't give up.
 

farid-

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very well said by "Smile Canada". Don't GIVE UP... trust me all of us have been through that pain full wait game stage with CIC but always remember it will never stay FOREVER... and nowadays with CIC's laws changing every other day kind off. those who are not citizens yet why to take the risk get your citizen as soon as possible and then can decided to move if have to wherever freely.....
 

AUTO101

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stellahello said:
I applied for Canadian Citizenship and have been waiting for the oath. But my hubby wants to live another country as he has the citizenship there. What I want to know is that if I give up Canadian citizenship, could I still hold permanent resident status or will I become a visitor and be required to obtain work permit/study permit if I want to stay longer? My PR would have expired in 2019 if I hadn't become a Canadian citizen.
You are not a Canadian citizen yet. So you are not really giving up anything at this point. If you choose not to take oath or don't appear for oath, they will close your file. You will still be PR but in order to renew your PR in 2019; you will have to meet minimum requirement. If you don't meet it, you will not be able to renew your PR and as a result you will not be able to stay in Canada. In order for you to visit Canada (unless you have a passport from country that allows 6 month visit) you will need a visitor/student/work visa.
 

sjakub

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stellahello said:
My PR would have expired in 2019 if I hadn't become a Canadian citizen.
I am assuming you mean that this is the expiry date of your PR card.
You could actually lose your status much sooner.
The expiry date of your PR card doesn't matter.

For example, if you left today and tried to return after July 2018 and before 2019,
you could lose the PR status at the border even if your PR card was still valid.
Depending on your past travels, this may happen even sooner than that.

So if you are making long-time plans like that (and you want to keep your PR status),
make sure that at any point you satisfy your residency obligations.
 

dpenabill

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Emphatically agree with the observations made by sjakub!

PR card expiry date has virtually nothing to do with whether a PR is in compliance with the PR Residency Obligation.

Beyond that, the query is very personal, what to do is totally dependent on personal circumstances and priorities . . . but, frankly, while it is not overtly indicated, I cannot avoid suspecting a control issue lurking beneath the surface. I am very reluctant to intercede in personal relationships, but if there is a control factor involved, there are community based organizations which will offer some guidance and counseling so you can make a reasoned decision about your future, and I would strongly suggest seeking out such counseling before abandoning or withdrawing the application for Canada citizenship.
 

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stellahello said:
I applied for Canadian Citizenship and have been waiting for the oath. But my hubby wants to live another country as he has the citizenship there. What I want to know is that if I give up Canadian citizenship, could I still hold permanent resident status or will I become a visitor and be required to obtain work permit/study permit if I want to stay longer? My PR would have expired in 2019 if I hadn't become a Canadian citizen.
Is you husband a Canadian citizen also?

Does the country you will be moving to allow dual citizenship?
 

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There is another option - go with your husband(if you want) but don't withdraw your application. Keep checking your status online and if they schedule you for the oath, return to Canada for it. Once you get citizenship, you can now come and go as you wish and any children you have abroad will get Canadian citizenship through you.

But to answer your question, if you cancel your application, you will remain a PR. But as others have said you will need to maintain residency obligations (i.e. be physically present in Canada for at least 730 days in any rolling 5 yrs).

This country your husband wants to live in, do you also have citizenship there? If you follow him, can you work or study there freely? Will having Canadian citizenship be helpful to you in that country? These are some things to consider carefully before making a decision. Goodluck.

stellahello said:
I applied for Canadian Citizenship and have been waiting for the oath. But my hubby wants to live another country as he has the citizenship there. What I want to know is that if I give up Canadian citizenship, could I still hold permanent resident status or will I become a visitor and be required to obtain work permit/study permit if I want to stay longer? My PR would have expired in 2019 if I hadn't become a Canadian citizen.
 

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stellahello said:
I applied for Canadian Citizenship and have been waiting for the oath. But my hubby wants to live another country as he has the citizenship there. What I want to know is that if I give up Canadian citizenship, could I still hold permanent resident status or will I become a visitor and be required to obtain work permit/study permit if I want to stay longer? My PR would have expired in 2019 if I hadn't become a Canadian citizen.
While one does not always wish or have to put their life plans on hold for CIC you may need (in addition to the advice received) consider if there would be any delays to processing if you left Canada. I presume you applied pre June 11, 2015 hence under the previous act.

1. Did you have 1095 days of physical presence? Is this easy to prove? Are you at risk of an RQ? RQs can lengthen the process significantly. What was your test date (month/year is ok) and where is your Local Office (you can say e..g Greater Toronto Area if you don't want to be specific)? This gives an idea of possible timeline to oath.

2. Is your spouse a Canadian Citizen - if yes and you leave Canada as an accompanying spouse then your PR status would be safe. If he is not then you need to watch your absence days. You have to be a PR at the date of oath with no report for breach of the Residency Obligation.

3. Are there or would there be logistical issues in returning at short notice for an oath e.g is your PR Card expired or near to expiry and you are not visitor visa exempt to Canada so would need to apply for a PRTD etc. Does the country you are going to have exit controls and such? Missing the oath for no good reason (CIC seem to have this narrowed down as being a death or illness) because you couldn't get back in time e.g missed flight could result in your application being classed as abandoned and closed.

Good luck
 

stellahello

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Unfortunately, my husband is also permanent resident not Canadian citizen. And the country we are planning to live does not allow us to have dual citizenship. If I became Canadian citizen and wanted to work in the country, I am required to give up Canadian citizenship and submit proof of cancellation. Having told your words, I totally understand that it is always good to have a back-up plan as life goes. That is why I wish to hold Canadian citizenship as I might want to come back to Canada again. The other thing, I don't think I will be back to Canada before my PR status expires.

In this case, my only choice would be to apply for PR later once I am back to Canada to live. Is it right? Is there any other way I can resume Canadian citizenship after I revoke it? Once I give it up, that is like end of the world. every paper work/LMO/Express Entry whatever immigration process should start from the beginning. Right?
 

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stellahello said:
Unfortunately, my husband is also permanent resident not Canadian citizen. And the country we are planning to live does not allow us to have dual citizenship.
I checked your other posts, and it looks like the country you are talking about might be South Korea. Is that the case?

You may want to check current regulations, because it seems like those rules changed in 2011
and it is now possible to have dual citizenship (at least according to Wikipedia).
It may be even easier if you are a female (so the dual citizenship is not an attempt to avoid military service).

Also, if only one of you had the Canadian citizenship, the other could maintain their PR status even outside of Canada.
 

stellahello

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sjakub said:
I checked your other posts, and it looks like the country you are talking about might be South Korea. Is that the case?

You may want to check current regulations, because it seems like those rules changed in 2011
and it is now possible to have dual citizenship (at least according to Wikipedia).
It may be even easier if you are a female (so the dual citizenship is not an attempt to avoid military service).

Also, if only one of you had the Canadian citizenship, the other could maintain their PR status even outside of Canada.
Yes, it is South Korea and they do allow dual citizenship only for over 65 or "certain" circumstances. There are so many restrictions to have dual citizenship. It is possible to live in there without Korean citizenship but the job I am offered requires me to have Korean citizenship and proof of cancellation of Canadian citizenship if I became Canadian voluntarily. So my question was that if I cancel Canadian citizenship, am I not holding permanent status either? will I be treated as visitor/study permit holder/foreign worker? right?
 

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stellahello said:
Yes, it is South Korea and they do allow dual citizenship only for over 65 or "certain" circumstances. There are so many restrictions to have dual citizenship. It is possible to live in there without Korean citizenship but the job I am offered requires me to have Korean citizenship and proof of cancellation of Canadian citizenship if I became Canadian voluntarily. So my question was that if I cancel Canadian citizenship, am I not holding permanent status either? will I be treated as visitor/study permit holder/foreign worker? right?
Here are some of the exceptions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korean_nationality_law#Dual_citizenship

Wouldn't you fall into: Foreigners who are married to Koreans and acquired Korean nationality from July 2, 2010, or later

And yes, if you renounce your Canadian citizenship, you will have no resident status in Canada. You will not be a PR either.