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[seadrag0n]

In my wife's univ, they are closing few courses and a department is under question of closure. And this is the biggest university on the island. A public university.

In 2020, here in local Victoria, all those near university were making a massive fuss that they are not getting students for running their businesses (it was to the point that they were holding protests, lol). People were protesting that they will go bankrrupt due to mortgages. Thankfully for later, mortgage payments were frozen.

If Indian students were to disappear suddenly, a lot of locals will have issues. A lot!

Looks like this is happening in many universities:

https://www.sfu.ca/human-resources/managers-supervisors/hiring-freeze-faqs.html

SFU currently faces a financial shortfall in the 2023/24 fiscal year due to lower international enrollments and increased cost pressures. We expect that SFU's budget is likely to remain tight over the next few years.

I have read the same thing about McGill, Queens, not sure how many more are there.

 

[GandiBaat]

Looks like this is happening in many universities:

https://www.sfu.ca/human-resources/managers-supervisors/hiring-freeze-faqs.html

SFU currently faces a financial shortfall in the 2023/24 fiscal year due to lower international enrollments and increased cost pressures. We expect that SFU's budget is likely to remain tight over the next few years.

I have read the same thing about McGill, Queens, not sure how many more are there.

The problem with Canadians is that they start yelling before even understanding.

I remember them yelling online that why is Canada allowing students from Saudi Arabia and middle east in medical programs in Canada who just study and leave. It was lost on them that those seats and other subsidized seats were being paid by Saudi and UAE students. If they leave they will have to close the program itself.

Same is with this current "OMG Indians are taking all our houses" bullshit. They remove all the Indian students, their universities start to feel the funds crunch. A certain major university on the island here is struggling to find volunteers to even run their TA programs and their open houses. These were taken by international students.

To top it all, just like their medical system, their universities can not increase fees. So.... they are stuck.

 

[GandiBaat]

Trump is back boys @RSub @PRANIT01 @Windsor37 Still moving US if he wins?

I doubt that anyone going to US will postpone their move due to Trump. And this time around he seems less dramatic and more politician like.

 

[iSaidGoodDay]

I'll try and look at it tmr. Wasn't able to locate what you were referring to.

Int Students is on tv and news again and again. If you dont think this is gonna affect enrollment I dunno what to tell you.

Future enrollment yes, but never to this degree. Nobody thinks "oh, they are making videos on us, lets stop moving to Canada". It is very evident on just how bad things are for middle class students in Canada and they are avoiding coming here.

Remember - at the end of the day, those who invited these students were Canadians, those who exploited them were Canadians too. The same Canadians fucked over other Canadians while doing so.

 

[Lord_Tony]

I doubt that anyone going to US will postpone their move due to Trump. And this time around he seems less dramatic and more politician like.

However for folks for India it is a long waiting time to get Green Card and hence very few seem to want to go they say, it is true?

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

Future enrollment yes, but never to this degree. Nobody thinks "oh, they are making videos on us, lets stop moving to Canada". It is very evident on just how bad things are for middle class students in Canada and they are avoiding coming here.

Remember - at the end of the day, those who invited these students were Canadians, those who exploited them were Canadians too. The same Canadians fucked over other Canadians while doing so.

What you mean how bad things are? The problem is these fake students expect to cover their entire cost by working part time. Students are expected to have enough money for their education and cost of living. The Chinese students aren’t living hand to mouth only these Indians are. Is it really exploiting when a simple google or YouTube search will give you the full situation online? Normally you are logical but your bias here is showing

 

[Maria Odette]

The horse is out of the barn. Even the mainstream media is now ringing the alarm bells on the Liberal's immigration policy. Winter is coming for the fake students, whether they like it or not.

Also, the issues with the fake students is at colleges, not universities. The vast majority of indians are not enrolled in universities.

 

[iSaidGoodDay]

What you mean how bad things are? The problem is these fake students expect to cover their entire cost by working part time. Students are expected to have enough money for their education and cost of living. The Chinese students aren’t living hand to mouth only these Indians are. Is it really exploiting when a simple google or YouTube search will give you the full situation online? Normally you are logical but your bias here is showing

> how bad things are for middle class students in Canada
I specified middle class students. Excluded rich ones.

Middle class should've never been here(as they can't afford!). You and I, we both agree on that. Now this existing middle class cohort is talking negatively about their experiences that's discouraging other middle class from coming in.

The current economy is impacting middle class students from every single developing nation. Be it from India, Pakistan, Filipino, etc, any middle class student from a developing nation wouldn't find life easy here. Reduced PR prospects make it even less lucrative for so many.

 

[imransyed]

What you mean how bad things are? The problem is these fake students expect to cover their entire cost by working part time. Students are expected to have enough money for their education and cost of living. The Chinese students aren’t living hand to mouth only these Indians are. Is it really exploiting when a simple google or YouTube search will give you the full situation online? Normally you are logical but your bias here is showing

Listen, you are right. These students try to cover their cost by working part time.....which is as per plan of the Government of Canada.
The expectation on paper is correct, you should have enough money to support yourself, but even the every day Canadians know what the true cost of living in this country is and what the motive behind bringing so many TFWs to Canada really is. You know it too, all this is by design.

The financial and economic value of working part time is greater than just bringing enough money to not work during the course of your study. This is my opinion.

And PR was a major incentive for people to want to come to Canada as students too. It isn't anymore. Like @iSaidGoodDay says, the PR prospect is the last thing that kept them going, take that away and not many will come here. I believe this is what happened in Australia around 2018 or so.

Now some of my acquaintances who know they won't be able to get a PR in Canada or anywhere else for that matter, go to the US. Their plan is to make as much money as possible before getting kicked out.

 

[primestudio]

Listen, you are right. These students try to cover their cost by working part time.....which is as per plan of the Government of Canada.
The expectation on paper is correct, you should have enough money to support yourself, but even the every day Canadians know what the true cost of living in this country is and what the motive behind bringing so many TFWs to Canada really is. You know it too, all this is by design.


The financial and economic value of working part time is greater than just bringing enough money to not work during the course of your study. This is my opinion.


And PR was a major incentive for people to want to come to Canada as students too. It isn't anymore. Like @iSaidGoodDay says, the PR prospect is the last thing that kept them going, take that away and not many will come here. I believe this is what happened in Australia around 2018 or so.


Now some of my acquaintances who know they won't be able to get a PR in Canada or anywhere else for that matter, go to the US. Their plan is to make as much money as possible before getting kicked out.

Lets make FSW great again. All of this started in 2016 when they started giving CRS points for diplomas.

By the way, Did your friends do a diploma ?

I think one with a (Canadian master+ 1 year Canadian experience) or a Canadian bachelor degree + 2 years of Canadian experience) would still have a good probability of getting a PR in the next 2-3 years. Nobody is getting a PR through general category with only Canadian experience nowadays, you need both Canadian and foreign unless you speak French.

 

[GandiBaat]

However for folks for India it is a long waiting time to get Green Card and hence very few seem to want to go they say, it is true?

GC is a lure. Lot of people just stay on non permanent status for long time.

 

[primestudio]

I hope African nations don't fall for this scam. Only ~100k PGWPs are expiring between Jan 2024-May 2024 though. Others got an extension of till 2025. Logically, interest rates + less number of TFWs should stress housing market even more.

Where did you get the number ?

 

[iSaidGoodDay]

Where did you get the number ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1748138852299284715

75k, IRCC underreports, so assume a 10-15% underreported data. Will be somewhere 90k-100k.

This number should've been much higher this year to normalize housing. In 2024, we can expect another 300k to expire - 2025 is when a large number of expiries are going to happen.

 

[iSaidGoodDay]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Edmonton/comments/19a0hlx
Good thread showing the other side of Canada. I disagree with the remark on flip flops though.

 

[GandiBaat]

The Chinese students aren’t living hand to mouth only these Indians are.

How long have you lived in Richmond? Chinese run a parallel "Canada" there complete with banks, jobs, services, news papers, "public" housing, "taxes" and "police" and what not.