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iSaidGoodDay

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I doubt many new entrants in FSW/PNP make enough to send money back home. Even if they earn most will want to save for house deposits etc.. Students on the other hand I feel should be kept in abeyance for longer as they are young, don't have family to support, share apartment stay in bed & breakfasts etc..save money they only way to spend in Travel or party.
I don't know about other countries, but I can tell you the data from foreign remittance stats of India - US tops, AU is 5th, Canada is 12th behind Malaysia. Which only means one thing, most immigrants from India don't make enough to send back home or burn through their savings (I trust the former).
 

Lord_Tony

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Mar 7, 2023
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25-03-2023
AOR Received.
07-05-2023
Med's Done....
15-05-2023
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15-12-2023
Totally agree. If someone has taken the effort to come and study in Canada, got the education and is working in Canada, they should get a PR there should be no question about that.
Sorry so says the Lambdas. Who come here with family money from abroad, join diploma mills, again use family money to buy LMIAs and work for Timmies, use all this to get PRs. I feel only the top students should be even allowed to get PRs not every tom,dick&harry.
 

Shadow09

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Jul 16, 2021
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Not my place to say anything, but entry level workers that primarily do entry-level jobs shouldn't be blindly invited for a PR. Most invited for PR are CECs these days and the job market is full of poor applicants with Canadian education. It hasn't done the job market any favor except for spamming it with poor applications. This has fundamental challenges with reduced labour productivity that too when employers are already struggling to train entry-level workers.

I also see other comments from you where you said CRS appears to be unattainable. I'm 30+, outland, I had ~520 as my CRS. If I can do it, so can you.

Millions of students who were extremely unqualified to begin with (back home) have landed in Canada - no one leaves an elite school in their home country to graduate from these fodder institutions. Millions of them do minimum wage work too - none of those activities put them in the same bracket as a qualified student or a qualified worker that is an outlander.

When you say "they should get a PR there should be no question about that" - those would be my own objections as it would be unreasonable to bloat this poor education-> PR route any further than it already has. It has hurt an immigrant's image (which I'm okay with, but that isn't the general sentiment here) and it has led to a crisis(which can't be solved by giving PR to millions who will be nothing but a burden through non-equitable contributions).

I get what you are feeling. But, PR is no one's right. Even when I was at ~520 CRS and the draws were paused, I thought maybe I missed my chance. And I was okay to move on and work on the next thing(C-11 pathway). I'm just appreciate of Canada for handing out a citizenship opportunity to me without pumping in $200k-$500k (which is realistically the cost of getting a citizenship in first world countries).
THANK YOU FOR WRITING THIS.
 

Lord_Tony

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Mar 7, 2023
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25-03-2023
AOR Received.
07-05-2023
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15-05-2023
VISA ISSUED...
15-12-2023
I don't know about other countries, but I can tell you the data from foreign remittance stats of India - US tops, AU is 5th, Canada is 12th behind Malaysia. Which only means one thing, most immigrants from India don't make enough to send back home or burn through their savings (I trust the former).
I completly agree with you, I compare myself everyday with my old pay/COLA in Australia vs now. I make a business case and demand a better pay my employer entices me to go to USA. After doing my research I learn USA is very lucrative. I would have moved if only my kids don't start college next year or I was a little younger to wait for the GC.
 

alexross

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I can see where you are coming from. It is just that I feel bad to see people who studied in Canada for 2 years, then worked for another 3 years in Canada. Then having to leave after living in Canada for 5 years is soul crushing for them. I feel really bad for them so I just want them to be able to get a PR. My personal opinion I don't have any arguments on why it is a good idea.
 

Shadow09

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Jul 16, 2021
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How about qualified student, have good job paying good amount of tax? We are in the same basket with those work at timmies or mcdonald and that not fair tho. Because of the point system, we are on the same boat and I feel that is not fair.
I was a good student in the US and worked there too. There was no point system and I had to perish. Now tell me whats fair and not?
So bro its simple - LIFE IS UNFAIR. It's survival of the fittest.
 

Lord_Tony

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Mar 7, 2023
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App. Filed.......
25-03-2023
AOR Received.
07-05-2023
Med's Done....
15-05-2023
VISA ISSUED...
15-12-2023
How about qualified student, have good job paying good amount of tax? We are in the same basket with those work at timmies or mcdonald and that not fair tho. Because of the point system, we are on the same boat and I feel that is not fair.
We are all saying the same thing JT's governments and IRCC should know to differentiate Qualified students with real potential from the Lambda types who are unqualified and buy their diploma in bad schools, buy LMIA & work low end work.
 
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henryle2802

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Sep 28, 2023
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I was a good student in the US and worked there too. There was no point system and I had to perish. Now tell me whats fair and not?
So bro its simple - LIFE IS UNFAIR. It's survival of the fittest.
Agree with you life is unfair, just concern about STEM draw but you are true, everyone need to try their best first.
 

Impatient Dankaroo

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I can see where you are coming from. It is just that I feel bad to see people who studied in Canada for 2 years, then worked for another 3 years in Canada. Then having to leave after living in Canada for 5 years is soul crushing for them. I feel really bad for them so I just want them to be able to get a PR. My personal opinion I don't have any arguments on why it is a good idea.
I get it but herein lies the issue of why students should go to university with the purpose of educating themselves with a skillset that allows them to be successful whether or not they are in Canada or elsewhere.

Also, there are literally 25 different PNP programs that one could qualify for with minimal requirements. If you can't get PR in Canada after 3 years, you are literally a dumbass
 

henryle2802

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Sep 28, 2023
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We are all saying the same thing JT's governments and IRCC should know to differentiate Qualified students with real potential from the Lambda types who are unqualified and buy their diploma in bad schools, buy LMIA & work low end work.
That my point, I really think they should do same with PNP where salary and curent job offer play an important role in score factor.
 
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Lord_Tony

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Mar 7, 2023
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Category........
PNP
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App. Filed.......
25-03-2023
AOR Received.
07-05-2023
Med's Done....
15-05-2023
VISA ISSUED...
15-12-2023
I get it but herein lies the issue of why students should go to university with the purpose of educating themselves with a skillset that allows them to be successful whether or not they are in Canada or elsewhere.

Also, there are literally 25 different PNP programs that one could qualify for with minimal requirements. If you can't get PR in Canada after 3 years, you are literally a dumbass
you make it sound like Lambdas are smart because they got their PRs :p
 

Shadow09

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Jul 16, 2021
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Agree with you life is unfair, just concern about STEM draw but you are true, everyone need to try their best first.
Yup. Glad you agree. You know what is epitome of unfairness. When one is sitting at a higher CRS and Ontario chooses candidates with lower CRS so you have to wait for fucking 3 years to get an invite. And in the meantime Canada decides to send 25000 ITAs to students because there's Covid. Who cares if I had to work hard to get a high CRS. So yeah life is definitely unfair.