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[Jazkh]

How many of you have started taking French courses within the last year or so?

 

[AndyUK]

How many of you have started taking French courses within the last year or so?

I started learning from from zero in April 2020 and passed my TCF in February or March 2021. To be honest, haven't done much since. Not sure if this in any way helps with your question?

 

[AndyUK]

Sorry for going slightly off-topic here but I'm pretty sure someone in this thread will be able to answer this question

Once I land as a PR, if I want to travel outside of Canada (by air) I need to have my PR card to be able to enter back or if I'm still waiting for the card I need PRTD - is this true even if I'm from visa exempt country? (I believe the answer is yes but just want to confirm)

Is getting PRTD relatively quick and easy or is it more of a last resort thing only if I MUST travel while waiting for my PR card?

 

[GandiBaat]

Sorry for going slightly off-topic here but I'm pretty sure someone in this thread will be able to answer this question

Once I land as a PR, if I want to travel outside of Canada (by air) I need to have my PR card to be able to enter back or if I'm still waiting for the card I need PRTD - is this true even if I'm from visa exempt country? (I believe the answer is yes but just want to confirm)

Is getting PRTD relatively quick and easy or is it more of a last resort thing only if I MUST travel while waiting for my PR card?

The answer is rather convoluted as everything with IRCC is.

The honest answer is this : You (or rather anyone else), legally does not need PR Card to enter Canada. Primary proof of PR status is CoPR (signed after you land). Primary proof of your identity is your Passport. Rest they have on their computer to let you enter. Legally, you have a right to enter into Canada as a PR. I do not remember exactly which part of IRPA, but I can check and tell you (https://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/i-2.5/page-5.html, 27(1) ). This is true for any PR. From any country.

The problem is elsewhere. All commercial transports are supposed to check you for being able to enter Canada before they onboard you on their plane, boat, train, bus or what so ever. For a PR only document that they can reliably check is a PR Card. This is unlike say Australia where one can check if you have requisite visa to enter. Thats the problem. The only other document is PRTD.

Now, in theory, what you can do is this : From UK go to Seattle and enter Canada on foot or using a rental car(which is treated as a private vehicle, not available for public to travel.). That in theory should work. Because US will let you enter based on your Passport and Canada will let you enter based on your CoPR and Passport and possibly one more document confirming your address from what I have heard.

Personally, I have never travelled out of Canada, so all my info is second hand. If you ask me, get a PRTD. PRTD processing times are whack and you can only apply for it outside Canada AFAIK. If you are in hurry and it is a "fuck it" situation, travel to Seattle on your passport and enter from there via land border using just CoPR and your passport.

Few references :

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=064&top=10 (Notice the language of this answer. They always talk about commercial travel.)
https://immigrating-to-canada.com/residency/pr-card-renewal/can-travel-without-permanent-resident-card/
https://www.migrationlawgroup.com/post/travel-options-for-new-permanent-permanent-residents-without-permanent-resident-cards

 

[OneStepAtATime]

Sorry for going slightly off-topic here but I'm pretty sure someone in this thread will be able to answer this question

Once I land as a PR, if I want to travel outside of Canada (by air) I need to have my PR card to be able to enter back or if I'm still waiting for the card I need PRTD - is this true even if I'm from visa exempt country? (I believe the answer is yes but just want to confirm)

Is getting PRTD relatively quick and easy or is it more of a last resort thing only if I MUST travel while waiting for my PR card?

I'm leaning towards not needing the PR card: both the card and your visa-exempt status (with a valid eTA if required) allows you to enter the country, so just one of them will do.
I don't see why becoming a Canadian PR would nullify your visa-exempt status since you remain a national of your home country.
I'm thinking you won't be able to use the PR and citizen queue at immigrations for expedited processing (if there is such a thing) without the PR card, though.

 

[GandiBaat]

I'm leaning towards not needing the PR card: both the card and your visa-exempt status (with a valid eTA if required) allows you to enter the country, so just one of them will do. I'm thinking you won't be able to use the PR and citizen queue at immigrations for expedited processing (if there is such a thing) without the PR card, though.

For PRs, eTA or Visa are not required saving for the first time. PR Card is a travel document alright, its not a visa however. In that sense it is somewhat similar to a passport.

 

[AndyUK]

The answer is rather convoluted as everything with IRCC is.

The honest answer is this : You (or rather anyone else), legally does not need PR Card to enter Canada. Primary proof of PR status is CoPR (signed after you land). Primary proof of your identity is your Passport. Rest they have on their computer to let you enter. Legally, you have a right to enter into Canada as a PR. I do not remember exactly which part of IRPA, but I can check and tell you (https://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/i-2.5/page-5.html, 27(1) ). This is true for any PR. From any country.

The problem is elsewhere. All commercial transports are supposed to check you for being able to enter Canada before they onboard you on their plane, boat, train, bus or what so ever. For a PR only document that they can reliably check is a PR Card. This is unlike say Australia where one can check if you have requisite visa to enter. Thats the problem. The only other document is PRTD.

Now, in theory, what you can do is this : From UK go to Seattle and enter Canada on foot or using a rental car(which is treated as a private vehicle, not available for public to travel.). That in theory should work. Because US will let you enter based on your Passport and Canada will let you enter based on your CoPR and Passport and possibly one more document confirming your address from what I have heard.

Personally, I have never travelled out of Canada, so all my info is second hand. If you ask me, get a PRTD. PRTD processing times are whack and you can only apply for it outside Canada AFAIK. If you are in hurry and it is a "fuck it" situation, travel to Seattle on your passport and enter from there via land border using just CoPR and your passport.

Few references :

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=064&top=10 (Notice the language of this answer. They always talk about commercial travel.)
https://immigrating-to-canada.com/residency/pr-card-renewal/can-travel-without-permanent-resident-card/
https://www.migrationlawgroup.com/post/travel-options-for-new-permanent-permanent-residents-without-permanent-resident-cards

Thank you, that's pretty much what I thought.
Thanks for the links - I will have a look. I really appreciate it.

 

[AndyUK]

I'm leaning towards not needing the PR card: both the card and your visa-exempt status (with a valid eTA if required) allows you to enter the country, so just one of them will do.
I don't see why becoming a Canadian PR would nullify your visa-exempt status since you remain a national of your home country.
I'm thinking you won't be able to use the PR and citizen queue at immigrations for expedited processing (if there is such a thing) without the PR card, though.

That's how I see it from a logical point of view. However, I'm very much aware that laws and regulations are often anything but logical.

In reality I guess it works similarly to my current status - I'm originally from Poland, I live in the UK, and I have both citizenships and passports.
I'm supposed to enter the UK on my British passport and Poland on my Polish passport.
In theory, I could use my other passport but then I'm treated as a citizen of that country (i.e. all restrictions kick in since the UK is no longer part of the EU).

I'm assuming it's a similar scenario. Yes, PR status is not the same as citizenship and PR card is not a passport but by becoming a PR, I'm changing my 'connection' to Canada and therefore, different rules apply. What's bizarre though is the fact that this makes travel more difficult until I get my card. Then again, I shouldn't really be surprised, should I?

 

[armitabbsn]

How many of you have started taking French courses within the last year or so?

I knew some french (A1-A2 level) from 3/4years ago
And this year in summer started learning it again
nd I took TEF in November
Got B2 ( writing and reading: B2 plus, listening & speaking: B2)

 

[Kirat Dhaliwal]

Hi everyone, I recently got my ITA. My express entry profile has some complexities so I want to hire a consultant or immigration lawyers for submission of my EE application. I yesterday consult with "Mark Holthe" who is a immigration lawyer. I found him quite knowledgeable. Should I go with him? Did anyone Hired him in the past?

 

[cansha]

Hi everyone, I recently got my ITA. My express entry profile has some complexities so I want to hire a consultant or immigration lawyers for submission of my EE application. I yesterday consult with "Mark Holthe" who is a immigration lawyer. I found him quite knowledgeable. Should I go with him? Did anyone Hired him in the past?

Don't know about this lawyer. But hiring a lawyer depends on what kind of complexities and what is the fee. if complexity is like you have some medical history which could be a challenge, or you have a police record in some other country etc. hiring a lawyer makes sense. But if the complexity is like you are missing documentation from some employer or work history hours are complex .. lawyer won't help much because documentation still needs to be prepared by you.

 

[Kirat Dhaliwal]

Don't know about this lawyer. But hiring a lawyer depends on what kind of complexities and what is the fee. if complexity is like you have some medical history which could be a challenge, or you have a police record in some other country etc. hiring a lawyer makes sense. But if the complexity is like you are missing documentation from some employer or work history hours are complex .. lawyer won't help much because documentation still needs to be prepared by you.

I have two spousal open work permit refusals in 2019. Now, after almost 4 years my wife got ITA. I do not know if I need to submit relationship proofs along with marriage certificate and what should be written in LOE.

 

[cansha]

Hi everyone, I recently got my ITA. My express entry profile has some complexities so I want to hire a consultant or immigration lawyers for submission of my EE application. I yesterday consult with "Mark Holthe" who is a immigration lawyer. I found him quite knowledgeable. Should I go with him? Did anyone Hired him in the past?

Saw your previous posts to see the issue. Personally, I don't think the application has any "complexity" . PR applications and temporary visas are treated very differently. And PR application only requires a marriage certificate as proof. But, I guess you are worried and no amount of assurance would be enough. So, you are past the stage of whether to hire a lawyer or not. All the best!

 

[cansha]

I have two spousal open work permit refusals in 2019. Now, after almost 4 years my wife got ITA. I do not know if I need to submit relationship proofs along with marriage certificate and what should be written in LOE.

If I were you; I would just submit marriage certificate and no additional proofs unless asked.

 

[cansha]

I have two spousal open work permit refusals in 2019. Now, after almost 4 years my wife got ITA. I do not know if I need to submit relationship proofs along with marriage certificate and what should be written in LOE.

Also, if I understood your posts correctly, the visa refusals were for your wife. And the officer noted that he was not sure if your wife was true temporary worker and if she will go back.

Now since ITA is in your wife's name; she is the one who is making the application to move on PR so the concern noted in previous refusals is no longer valid.