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[wonderbly]

What documents are needed to submit the application after ITA?
Is IMM 0008, IMM 5669, IMM 5562, IMM 5406 needed?

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...er-january-1-2016-completeness-check.html#s03

 

[canuck655]

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...er-january-1-2016-completeness-check.html#s03

Thank you. I noticed that website does not have IMM008, 5562 or 5406. But I see that some other 3rd party websies suggest you need those forms too. Why is this?

 

[wonderbly]

Thank you. I noticed that website does not have IMM008, 5562 or 5406. But I see that some other 3rd party websies suggest you need those forms too. Why is this?

When you start your e-APR and complete the questionnaire , the system will generate for you all the forms you are required to complete.

 

[ilikesnow]

When you start your e-APR and complete the questionnaire , the system will generate for you all the forms you are required to complete.

System have generated two uploads for me
A) Offer of Employment
B) Letter of Employment

Here is what instructions said and I'm very confused! Looks like job offer letter should be good for both?

A) Offer of Employment -

You must provide a job offer letter from the employer who wants to hire you. It must be printed on company letterhead, and state that you will be employed permanently in Canada by that company. The letter must specify whether the job is:

• for continuous, paid, full-time work (at least 30 hours a week),
• for work that is permanent and not seasonal,
• skill type 0, or skill levels A or B of the 2011 National Occupational Classification (NOC)

(Note – in most cases, the job offer must be for a permanent job. For some types of jobs, it has to be for at least one year.)

The job offer letter must include contact information for the company (address, telephone number and email address).

B) Letter of Employment


An employment letter is an official document printed on company letterhead stating that you will be employed in Canada by that company for a specified period of time. The employment letter must include your name, the details of your employment in Canada, and the company's contact information.

It may also include:

• details such as your tenure with the company
• your title, position and duties
• approved vacation periods (if travelling to Canada for holidays), or information about whether the company will cover all your travel expenses (if travelling on business for this company), etc

 

[wonderbly]

System have generated two uploads for me
A) Offer of Employment
B) Letter of Employment

Here is what instructions said and I'm very confused! Looks like job offer letter should be good for both?

A) Offer of Employment -

You must provide a job offer letter from the employer who wants to hire you. It must be printed on company letterhead, and state that you will be employed permanently in Canada by that company. The letter must specify whether the job is:

• for continuous, paid, full-time work (at least 30 hours a week),
• for work that is permanent and not seasonal,
• skill type 0, or skill levels A or B of the 2011 National Occupational Classification (NOC)

(Note – in most cases, the job offer must be for a permanent job. For some types of jobs, it has to be for at least one year.)

The job offer letter must include contact information for the company (address, telephone number and email address).

B) Letter of Employment


An employment letter is an official document printed on company letterhead stating that you will be employed in Canada by that company for a specified period of time. The employment letter must include your name, the details of your employment in Canada, and the company's contact information.

It may also include:

• details such as your tenure with the company
• your title, position and duties
• approved vacation periods (if travelling to Canada for holidays), or information about whether the company will cover all your travel expenses (if travelling on business for this company), etc

I am not quite sure about this, as I didn't apply with job offer. If the Employment letter covers all the things listed for both letters, then it should suffice. One thing I know is that the letter MUST state that the company will keep you for at least one year after you become PR.

Try asking this question as a thread of it's own in the forum, or in thread dedicated for applicants with job offers and/or LMIA.

 

[DesiPikachu]

Australian healthcare is no different

You've said this before but I'll say it again - it is different. Massively different.

There's private healthcare & private insurance as well in all these countries though and most middle-class folks (and above) there have private insurance on top of the usual public healthcare. So the long waiting times in Australia and UK only effects the retirees or the working-poor. Point is, at least there's a private alternative as an option there.

Most immigrants don't even know that private healthcare is outright banned in Canada.

 

[ilikesnow]

You've said this before but I'll say it again - it is different. Massively different.

There's private healthcare & private insurance as well in all these countries though and most middle-class folks (and above) there have private insurance on top of the usual public healthcare. So the long waiting times in Australia and UK only effects the retirees or the working-poor. Point is, at least there's a private alternative as an option there.

Most immigrants don't even know that private healthcare is outright banned in Canada.

Yeah I know that, but private healthcare isn't cheap at all. Me and my spouse pay close to 5000 a year for private insurance, without private insurance the healthcare isn't totally free either. Most of people have the very basic private healthcare which covers your ambulance cost($1000+) and surgeries, only 5-10% are able to afford private insurance but again private insurance doesn't mean you can get appointment very next day. I had to visit my GP first to be referred to a Gastro specialist(I has having severe pain), i.e private clinic. Got date in two weeks, doctor asked to get some tests done, next available appointment was again in two week, Lot's of procedures/tests are still not covered in Private insurance and you have to pay a % or fee. Not sure about the UK but it's not the case here that only it effects only retirees or the working-poors.

My point in above post was even with private healthcare, the wait times are still huge!!

 

[canuck655]

When you start your e-APR and complete the questionnaire , the system will generate for you all the forms you are required to complete.

Thaaaaaank you my friend

 

[Deleted member 994371]

Yeah I know that, but private healthcare isn't cheap at all. Me and my spouse pay close to 5000 a year for private insurance, without private insurance the healthcare isn't totally free either. Most of people have the very basic private healthcare which covers your ambulance cost($1000+) and surgeries, only 5-10% are able to afford private insurance but again private insurance doesn't mean you can get appointment very next day. I had to visit my GP first to be referred to a Gastro specialist(I has having severe pain), i.e private clinic. Got date in two weeks, doctor asked to get some tests done, next available appointment was again in two week, Lot's of procedures/tests are still not covered in Private insurance and you have to pay a % or fee. Not sure about the UK but it's not the case here that only it effects only retirees or the working-poors.

My point in above post was even with private healthcare, the wait times are still huge!!

From what I have heard so far........Indian healthcare seems better than first-world healthcare? Provided you aren't poor, of course. A middle-class person would have better healthcare access than a middle-class man or even a rich person in a first-world country.

 

[DBanswal]

Hi everyone,
Someone I know is mentally being tortured by her relatives as she was living with them when she had moved to Canada, and that's her dispatch address. But she'd be moving out soon. So, please let me know how can the PR card reach her so that the family doesn't destroy the document? Any help would be highly appreciated.

 

[ElvisRamaj]

If you can get "natives" (and I do not mean Native Natives...) to mate with each other, this problem would not exist. All this talk of "very few numbers" does not take in account of one simple reality : Canada has a looming crisis of old people to care for and provide for and if they do not "import" massive amount of young working force, their budget will collapse. Its that simple. Baby boom produced babies but it also produced senior boom in future because sons and grandsons of baby boomers can not procreate by choice.

Actually, there is a country that is much more concerned about "Harmonious society". Its called Japan. Till very recently, it was almost impossible to become Japanese or even stay in Japan permanently. The general opinion was as anti immigrant as it gets. Certain immigrants were outright seen as "monsters" or so called "monsta-gaikokujin". The word Gaikoku-jin for immigrants actually mean outside country people. It was as in your face discrimination as it gets in Japan. Sadly for them, it did not pan out well. These days they are working really hard to attract immigrants (temporary or even permanent). There are limited takers for their immigration program though. Language and cultural barriers hurts. Funny thing is that Japanese are actually surprised by it.

Well, to start, comparing Japan and Canada is like comparing oranges and apples because both of them are fruits. They are both first world countries, but almost totally different in every aspect, even geographically.

You implied that: "If you can get natives to mate with each other, you wouldn't have this problem".
That is not a native or Canada "problem", that is a modern educated civilization "problem". The more educated a population becomes, the less children it will have. Reasons are from economic to lifestyle choices and so on. Having less children or not at all is the reality of a developed nation because they begin to realize the costs, attention, care and needs associated with grooming a healthy child into this world, mentally and physically. Every Western developed country is facing this "problem" if you may call it, but its nature in action here. Studies show that the world population will max at 11.2 Billion in 2100 and then continue to decline from that point on. This increase in population will come from, you "guessed it", underdeveloped nations coming from, you "guessed it again" mostly Africa and parts of Asia.

About the immigration again.
As we in the era of a technology boom, we will need less to do more in the future, almost in every profession imaginable, including doctors and eldery care. The argument that you need a young force to compensate the lost of revenue from the retirees in the future is a short-sighted argument that doesn't take into equation a myramid of factors as from technology, futures wages and lifestyles, business developments and more and more. Not to mention the already producing capacity of Canada for the needed professions.

What you describe right now in BC is a life-changing phenomenon that will self-regulate based on supply and demand. If people want to talk to the doctor through the phone and not visit the clinic, that is what will happen, but if the contrary is in demand, it will be offered by someone/entity/company etc. Supply and demand is everywhere.

 

[ElvisRamaj]

Hi everyone,
Someone I know is mentally being tortured by her relatives as she was living with them when she had moved to Canada, and that's her dispatch address. But she'd be moving out soon. So, please let me know how can the PR card reach her so that the family doesn't destroy the document? Any help would be highly appreciated.

What the flying F**k ?

Since the PR hasn't been realeased yet, they can probably email the IRCC for the change of address and put a friend's one. Maybe the guys who received PR can help you on the procedure.

 

[Deleted member 994371]

That is "one" of the side effects the immigration levels Canada has planned for the last few years with the Liberal leadership.

It will self-regulate even more as time passes, meaning it will get worse and create division among the population in the future. This has been tested and proved countless times, all over the world, from New York to which ever place you want to stop.

For immigration to function properly and sustainably, it has to be on point with a certain goal and preferably as a means to an end. Not to mention, in very few numbers.

I have said a number of times, Canada doesn't need anything close to the immigration levels they have planned. Especially, the number they have appointed to each category of immigration.

Well, to start, comparing Japan and Canada is like comparing oranges and apples because both of them are fruits. They are both first world countries, but almost totally different in every aspect, even geographically.

You implied that: "If you can get natives to mate with each other, you wouldn't have this problem".
That is not a native or Canada "problem", that is a modern educated civilization "problem". The more educated a population becomes, the less children it will have. Reasons are from economic to lifestyle choices and so on. Having less children or not at all is the reality of a developed nation because they begin to realize the costs, attention, care and needs associated with grooming a healthy child into this world, mentally and physically. Every Western developed country is facing this "problem" if you may call it, but its nature in action here. Studies show that the world population will max at 11.2 Billion in 2100 and then continue to decline from that point on. This increase in population will come from, you "guessed it", underdeveloped nations coming from, you "guessed it again" mostly Africa and parts of Asia.

About the immigration again.
As we in the era of a technology boom, we will need less to do more in the future, almost in every profession imaginable, including doctors and eldery care. The argument that you need a young force to compensate the lost of revenue from the retirees in the future is a short-sighted argument that doesn't take into equation a myramid of factors as from technology, futures wages and lifestyles, business developments and more and more. Not to mention the already producing capacity of Canada for the needed professions.

What you describe right now in BC is a life-changing phenomenon that will self-regulate based on supply and demand. If people want to talk to the doctor through the phone and not visit the clinic, that is what will happen, but if the contrary is in demand, it will be offered by someone/entity/company etc. Supply and demand is everywhere.

From what you are saying, a country like Australia and US, or even a country in Europe would suit you considerably. US already has the exact policy you are talking about. Australia has limited its immigration to just students already in the country limited to particular occupations.

Why are you deadset on settling in Canada? Wouldn't another country suit your needs more? During my brief visit to Canada, every native born Canadian seemed very welcoming all kinds of immigrants. They didn't mind race, religion, turban, hijab, or anything. I saw more pious people in Canada then I did in India which is very religious in itself.

I am just saying that you will be going against the grain in Canada when you say that demographics need to be controlled. Perhaps a country that already has a policy in place to limit the people by country will suit you more. Unless you tell me you like -35c weather, there is nothing more that Canada can offer you. I don't imagine US or Australia is full of Albanians. It would be a cakewalk for a person with your skillset to make it over there.

 

[Deleted member 994371]

Well, to start, comparing Japan and Canada is like comparing oranges and apples because both of them are fruits. They are both first world countries, but almost totally different in every aspect, even geographically.

You implied that: "If you can get natives to mate with each other, you wouldn't have this problem".
That is not a native or Canada "problem", that is a modern educated civilization "problem". The more educated a population becomes, the less children it will have. Reasons are from economic to lifestyle choices and so on. Having less children or not at all is the reality of a developed nation because they begin to realize the costs, attention, care and needs associated with grooming a healthy child into this world, mentally and physically. Every Western developed country is facing this "problem" if you may call it, but its nature in action here. Studies show that the world population will max at 11.2 Billion in 2100 and then continue to decline from that point on. This increase in population will come from, you "guessed it", underdeveloped nations coming from, you "guessed it again" mostly Africa and parts of Asia.

About the immigration again.
As we in the era of a technology boom, we will need less to do more in the future, almost in every profession imaginable, including doctors and eldery care. The argument that you need a young force to compensate the lost of revenue from the retirees in the future is a short-sighted argument that doesn't take into equation a myramid of factors as from technology, futures wages and lifestyles, business developments and more and more. Not to mention the already producing capacity of Canada for the needed professions.

What you describe right now in BC is a life-changing phenomenon that will self-regulate based on supply and demand. If people want to talk to the doctor through the phone and not visit the clinic, that is what will happen, but if the contrary is in demand, it will be offered by someone/entity/company etc. Supply and demand is everywhere.

Also, the sheer size of Canada allows you to live the life you want. You say you want true multiculture, try living in area like Downtown Toronto, Vancouver or Calgary. Want to live among white people only? Try living in a place like PEI or new Brunswick. Want white people in Ontario? Try a place like Sudbury. White people in BC? Nanaimo or Victoria. Want black people in your life? Try York in GTA. Chinese? Richmond in Vancouver and Markham in Toronto.

That's one thing I realized while I was visiting Canada. There is something for everyone in Canada. You just need to know what you want.

Instead of making a whole country adapt to your perspective, you can just choose a place that already has a similar mindset as you.

 

[GandiBaat]

Well, to start, comparing Japan and Canada is like comparing oranges and apples because both of them are fruits. They are both first world countries, but almost totally different in every aspect, even geographically.

You implied that: "If you can get natives to mate with each other, you wouldn't have this problem".
That is not a native or Canada "problem", that is a modern educated civilization "problem". The more educated a population becomes, the less children it will have. Reasons are from economic to lifestyle choices and so on. Having less children or not at all is the reality of a developed nation because they begin to realize the costs, attention, care and needs associated with grooming a healthy child into this world, mentally and physically. Every Western developed country is facing this "problem" if you may call it, but its nature in action here. Studies show that the world population will max at 11.2 Billion in 2100 and then continue to decline from that point on. This increase in population will come from, you "guessed it", underdeveloped nations coming from, you "guessed it again" mostly Africa and parts of Asia.

First thing first, I never implied that "If you can get natives to mate with each other, you wouldn't have this problem". I literally said it and I stand by that.
That being said none of what you wrote matters as these are mere explanations of how Canada reached this situation. Thats the past. I never said Canada is alone... or unique or anything else. Actually I believe that Canada is mundanely common in that sense. I am merely pointing out to the very very obvious thing : Canada will need to provide for a large number of increasingly aging population. No matter how many hoops you jump, ultimately you will have to provide for that.

I mentioned Japan to drive home one simple point : An old population, no matter how much it desires against immigration, has to accept it. There is no escaping it. And it has to do in numbers needed to support its old population and keep the economy and country running. There is nothing you can do against it. Japan is actually many shade worse in every sense of the word in this regard. They are among the most anti immigration people out there and yet they now have to eat the humble pie!

As we in the era of a technology boom, we will need less to do more in the future, almost in every profession imaginable, including doctors and eldery care. The argument that you need a young force to compensate the lost of revenue from the retirees in the future is a short-sighted argument that doesn't take into equation a myramid of factors as from technology, futures wages and lifestyles, business developments and more and more. Not to mention the already producing capacity of Canada for the needed professions.

Let me put it in this way : I hold 13 patents in the so called "technology" which derives this entire craze of "we will need less to do more in future". Some of my work powers exactly this "need less to do more in future". Let me tell you one dirty secret of technology : its a daemon that has an insatiable hunger for more man power. Each time a new technology comes, it does not eliminate need for man power, it certainly moves it in a different plane -- for the lack of a better word. Sewing machines did not make profession of tailoring extinct, it just industrialized it. Secondly, people severely misunderestimate (lol) the flexibility of human labor and overestimate utility of technology.

Don't believe me? I can see that.

Let me give you one practical example, very relevant to Canada : Walmart and several stores have introduced these new-fangled self-checkout machines. Idea was the customer will do exactly what cashier used to do... The idea was to reduce load on cashier and perhaps reduce checkout lanes.. Now what happened next is funny. Walmart still is perpetually understaffed and is always looking to hire people even in cashier or now a new role. That of automated checkout helpers. Lots of old folks get stuck in these machines for one reason or the other and need help from these helpers. Technology created a role that never existed before.

Examples are simply too numerous. The entire idea of "we will need less" is flawed. Because you will not be doing the same things as in past. And for that you will AGAIN need man-power. You cann't run away from that.