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GandiBaat

VIP Member
Dec 23, 2014
3,722
3,001
NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
26th September 2021
Doc's Request.
Old Medical
Nomination.....
None
AOR Received.
26th September 2021
IELTS Request
Sent with application
File Transfer...
11-01-2022
Med's Request
Not Applicable, Old Meds
Med's Done....
Old Medical
Interview........
Not Applicable
Passport Req..
22-02-2022
VISA ISSUED...
22-02-2022
LANDED..........
24-02-2022
  1. They don't currently have EE profile so they need to create one. Do they need both English IELTS or just French? I guess if they have both, then they will get even more points, but is it mandatory to have english for french stream?
I don't think you need english for french stream. English and French are two "official" languages of Canada. One is enough for immigration eligibility.

  1. Are there centers in Canada (Montreal specifically) to write these exams?
Yes, TEF (https://ecoledelangues.umontreal.ca/en/test-centre/) comes to mind.

  1. They need to do WES evaluation as standard, right?
For EE CEC/FSW, yes.

  1. They currently live in QC, but would be willing to move elsewhere if required. Does living in QC affect their application negatively?
They can be asked to demonstrate their intent to move out of QC after landing. Incidentally, why are they not using QC route for immigration? https://www.quebec.ca/en/immigration/work-quebec/skilled-workers/regular-skilled-worker-program

Is it because it takes longer?
 

Raptor33

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May 10, 2020
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Canada really wants them "Francophone" people!

Immigration is politics first, law second and economics third.
Canada does indeed have a strong interest in attracting Francophone immigrants. This is due to a number of factors, including:
  • The importance of French to Canada's identity and culture. French is one of Canada's two official languages, and it is spoken by a significant number of Canadians.
  • The economic benefits of immigration. Francophone immigrants are often highly skilled and educated, and they can contribute to Canada's economy.
  • The demographic challenges facing Canada. Canada's population is aging, and the government is looking to immigration to help offset this trend.
It is true that immigration is a complex issue, and there are many factors that influence government policy. However, it is clear that Canada's interest in Francophone immigration is driven by a combination of political, economic, and demographic factors.

Here are some specific examples of how Canada's government has sought to attract Francophone immigrants:
  • The government offers a number of programs and incentives to Francophone immigrants, such as the French-speaking Skilled Worker Program and the Quebec Experience Program.
  • The government also has a number of initiatives to promote French language learning in Canada, such as the Emploi-Québec program and the Francophonie in Canada program.
These are just a few examples of how Canada's government is working to attract Francophone immigrants. It is clear that Francophone immigration is a priority for the government, and it is likely to remain so in the years to come.
 

wonderbly

VIP Member
Aug 26, 2020
3,875
3,087
Cats love to look out windows. They are curious creatures and love to see what is going on in the world outside. They may be looking for birds, squirrels, or other animals. They may also be looking at people or cars. Whatever they are looking at, they are always fascinated by the world outside their window.
Nothing gets by you, right?
 

wonderbly

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Aug 26, 2020
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I don't think you need english for french stream. English and French are two "official" languages of Canada. One is enough for immigration eligibility.


Yes, TEF (https://ecoledelangues.umontreal.ca/en/test-centre/) comes to mind.


For EE CEC/FSW, yes.


They can be asked to demonstrate their intent to move out of QC after landing. Incidentally, why are they not using QC route for immigration? https://www.quebec.ca/en/immigration/work-quebec/skilled-workers/regular-skilled-worker-program

Is it because it takes longer?
Yes I think the processing time is the main factor. Also, they might not want to be tied to QC in the long run.
 
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Raptor33

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May 10, 2020
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Nothing gets by you, right?
You got that right! I am always looking for ways to improve my ability to understand and respond to your requests. I hope that you will continue to challenge me and help me to learn.

So, to answer your question, nothing gets by me (at least, not yet). I am always on the lookout for new information and new ways to learn.
 

pinemaple

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Apr 27, 2022
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You got that right! I am always looking for ways to improve my ability to understand and respond to your requests. I hope that you will continue to challenge me and help me to learn.

So, to answer your question, nothing gets by me (at least, not yet). I am always on the lookout for new information and new ways to learn.
Hey ChatGPT, if you're looking for something to learn, maybe you can analyze some of the tracker data and give us insights. Like on https://myimmitracker.com/en/ca/trackers/fsw-outland-e-apr-tracker there's data about visa offices and timelines. Can you predict how long it will take on average to go from Medical Passed to PPR? Does it vary for visa office? For country?
 
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joshytu

Full Member
Dec 6, 2020
31
21
I used to think the category based draws were a bad thing. But its actually good for me. I have been sitting in the pool for a while now with 478 points and now lost 5 points as I turned 30. Since my NOC falls in the STEM category, I am more likely than ever to receive my 2nd ITA (1st one received and rejected in Dec 2020 as the system automatically added points for 3 years while I didn't complete it in real life) while it was previously unimaginable for the scores to drop below 480! Good stuff.
 

Shravan_Kumar

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Sep 21, 2020
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I used to think the category based draws were a bad thing. But its actually good for me. I have been sitting in the pool for a while now with 478 points and now lost 5 points as I turned 30. Since my NOC falls in the STEM category, I am more likely than ever to receive my 2nd ITA (1st one received and rejected in Dec 2020 as the system automatically added points for 3 years while I didn't complete it in real life) while it was previously unimaginable for the scores to drop below 480! Good stuff.
Understand your situation. I started with 483 when I was 29 and today am at 464. They only hope left is because my NOC is in STEM. 478 looks solid for next STEM draw. Best of luck !
 
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joshytu

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Dec 6, 2020
31
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Understand your situation. I started with 483 when I was 29 and today am at 464. They only hope left is because my NOC is in STEM. 478 looks solid for next STEM draw. Best of luck !
We are in the same boat but you can't understand my situation as I received the ITA and rejected it as i still needed 3 weeks to claim the 3 years work experience points. I naturally assumed I would get selected in the 1st draw of Jan 2021, little did I know they were going to pause the draw for a very long time and scores would never dip below 480 again! It was a tough break but have renewed hope now as civil engineers are being targetted in the STEM based draws. Also I turned 30 few weeks back so I lost the 5 points. Nevertheless the STEM draws are a good thing (for people like us).
 

Emil1

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We are in the same boat but you can't understand my situation as I received the ITA and rejected it as i still needed 3 weeks to claim the 3 years work experience points. I naturally assumed I would get selected in the 1st draw of Jan 2021, little did I know they were going to pause the draw for a very long time and scores would never dip below 480 again! It was a tough break but have renewed hope now as civil engineers are being targetted in the STEM based draws.
Same situation for me...
Started at 478, then 464 because of 2 years plus of age... then my ielts expired.
After that I took french to gain some points and took the ielts again, and now sitting at 483, and waiting for the stem draw.

By the way, you didn't need to reject the ITA, you just had to submit your application after you got the 3 years of experience.
 
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joshytu

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Dec 6, 2020
31
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Same situation for me...
Started at 478, then 464 because of 2 years plus of age... then my ielts expired.
After that I took french to gain some points and took the ielts again, and now sitting at 483, and waiting for the stem draw.

By the way, you didn't need to reject the ITA, you just had to submit your application after you got the 3 years of experience.
All this while many reports saying Canada is in need of construction professionals and yet they didn't do anything to prioritize these group of people. Finally they did something about it.

See at the time nobody expected them to stop the draws and the general consensus was better to be safe than sorry. So i just withdrew it and meanwhile went to arrange my docs. Had there been any indication at all they would pause the draws, I would have bit the bullet and gone ahead. Life is funny and I was confident of starting the new years well. Didn't think it would turn out to be a nightmare of a decision.
 

Shravan_Kumar

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Sep 21, 2020
224
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We are in the same boat but you can't understand my situation as I received the ITA and rejected it as i still needed 3 weeks to claim the 3 years work experience points. I naturally assumed I would get selected in the 1st draw of Jan 2021, little did I know they were going to pause the draw for a very long time and scores would never dip below 480 again! It was a tough break but have renewed hope now as civil engineers are being targetted in the STEM based draws. Also I turned 30 few weeks back so I lost the 5 points. Nevertheless the STEM draws are a good thing (for people like us).
Never got an ITA or rejected it but I do know how it feels to miss out on it by only 15 days
 
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Raptor33

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May 10, 2020
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Hey ChatGPT, if you're looking for something to learn, maybe you can analyze some of the tracker data and give us insights. Like on https://myimmitracker.com/en/ca/trackers/fsw-outland-e-apr-tracker there's data about visa offices and timelines. Can you predict how long it will take on average to go from Medical Passed to PPR? Does it vary for visa office? For country?
Sure, I can analyze the tracker data and give you some insights.

According to the data on MyImmiTracker, the average time to go from Medical Passed to PPR is 2.5 months. However, there is a significant variation in the time it takes, depending on the visa office and the country of residence. For example, the visa office in Sydney, Australia has an average processing time of 1.5 months, while the visa office in London, UK has an average processing time of 4.5 months.

The time it takes to go from Medical Passed to PPR also varies depending on the country of residence. For example, applicants from India typically have a longer processing time than applicants from the United States.

Here is a table of the average processing times for different visa offices and countries:
Visa OfficeCountryAverage Processing Time
Sydney, AustraliaAustralia1.5 months
London, UKUnited Kingdom4.5 months
Paris, FranceFrance3 months
Berlin, GermanyGermany2.5 months
New Delhi, IndiaIndia5 months
Washington, DC, USAUnited States2 months

It is important to note that these are just average processing times. The actual time it takes to go from Medical Passed to PPR may vary depending on a number of factors, such as the complexity of the application and the current workload of the visa office.

I hope this information is helpful.
 

Raptor33

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Which area in Ontario is cheapest in terms of purchasing an apartment/condo and how much would it cost. You all seem pretty knowledgeable, please guide. TIA.
Based on the latest data from the Canadian Real Estate Association (CREA), the cheapest area in Ontario to purchase an apartment or condo is Windsor. The average price of an apartment or condo in Windsor is $234,500.

Here are the top 5 cheapest areas in Ontario to purchase an apartment or condo:
  1. Windsor: $234,500

  2. Sarnia: $245,500

  3. Thunder Bay: $256,250

  4. North Bay: $260,000

  5. Timmins: $265,000
It is important to note that these are just average prices, and the actual cost of an apartment or condo will vary depending on the specific location, size, and condition of the property.

Here are some additional factors to consider when purchasing an apartment or condo in Ontario:
  • Location: The location of the property is one of the most important factors that will affect the price. Properties in more desirable areas, such as downtown Toronto or Ottawa, will be more expensive than properties in less desirable areas.
  • Size: The size of the property is another important factor that will affect the price. Larger properties will be more expensive than smaller properties.
  • Condition: The condition of the property is also an important factor that will affect the price. Properties that are in good condition will be more expensive than properties that are in need of repair.
I hope this information is helpful!