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Empress32

Star Member
Apr 7, 2021
88
112
Jamaica
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
2211
AOR Received.
February 23, 2021
Med's Done....
15-03-2021
Yeah I don't see any possibility of this being in the realm of misrepresentation. Wrong NOC, sure. I'll deal with that if it gets there. Misrepresentation? Not even close.

And if you're specifically referring to the requirements I posted above, that's not even remotely broad. I know dozens of biomedical engineers in different departments in the 3 largest med device companies in the US, and none of them fit the requirements IRCC lists under 2148.
Have you looked at 2211 or 3211? I don't know if it might fit better (especially 3211) as I recall coming upon both during the search for my NOC. You can check it out.
 
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Have you looked at 2211 or 3211? I don't know if it might fit better (especially 3211) as I recall coming upon both during the search for my NOC. You can check it out.
Oh interesting. Just took a look, don't seem to match. From what I see, 2148 is the best I could do. It does match the NOC a decent amount, there's a bunch of keywords in my employment letter that match IRCC's requirements. I'm just concerned IRCC won't look into it closely enough and reject. We'll see what happens
 

ElvisRamaj

Hero Member
Apr 26, 2021
824
1,861
34
Tirana, AL
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
0114
@MajorGrom @mushymush

I don't know how the IRCC officers make the decision concerning the NOC, but chosing a NOC that you cannot back up with a reference letter stating at least some of the roles listed there is clearly a misrepresentation.

What is misrepresentation :
A misrepresentation is a false or misleading statement or a material omission which renders other statements misleading, with intent to deceive.

Since IRCC has clearly set the NOCs eligible to apply through Express Entry, chosing one you cannot match, is therefore not just a mistake.

Ontario has a whole nomination program that is based on NOC selection, so I would say they play a pretty important role in the application process.

I would advise to do a careful research when chosing the NOC, which you would have plenty of time after the ITA to consider it.
 

wonderbly

VIP Member
Aug 26, 2020
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@MajorGrom @mushymush

I don't know how the IRCC officers make the decision concerning the NOC, but chosing a NOC that you cannot back up with a reference letter stating at least some of the roles listed there is clearly a misrepresentation.

What is misrepresentation :
A misrepresentation is a false or misleading statement or a material omission which renders other statements misleading, with intent to deceive.

Since IRCC has clearly set the NOCs eligible to apply through Express Entry, chosing one you cannot match, is therefore not just a mistake.

Ontario has a whole nomination program that is based on NOC selection, so I would say they play a pretty important role in the application process.

I would advise to do a careful research when chosing the NOC, which you would have plenty of time after the ITA to consider it.
Bro, if you are PNP you would know that choosing wrong NOC does not constitute misrep.

You don't want to know how many of us had to submit multiple PNP applications after rejections due to wrong NOCs. If we misrepresented, we would have been banned for at least 5 years.
 

nehcan123

Full Member
Mar 22, 2022
21
8
Hi - I did my soft landing last month. No GTF or GTC asked..

I am planning to visit Canada again (after getting my PR card) but not permanently yet (will move next year). Will that be an issue at immigration?
 
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AlmostThere2

Star Member
Apr 22, 2022
192
304
Category........
FSW
AOR Received.
07-08-2020
@MajorGrom @mushymush

I don't know how the IRCC officers make the decision concerning the NOC, but chosing a NOC that you cannot back up with a reference letter stating at least some of the roles listed there is clearly a misrepresentation.

What is misrepresentation :
A misrepresentation is a false or misleading statement or a material omission which renders other statements misleading, with intent to deceive.

Since IRCC has clearly set the NOCs eligible to apply through Express Entry, chosing one you cannot match, is therefore not just a mistake.

Ontario has a whole nomination program that is based on NOC selection, so I would say they play a pretty important role in the application process.

I would advise to do a careful research when chosing the NOC, which you would have plenty of time after the ITA to consider it.
Keyword being: "with intent to deceive", he's not trying to get a leg up by falsifying his information, I personally switched my NOC after ITA, because I found one that matched my duties and responsibilities better, in a completely different section, still got PPR. Bottom line is they know that their system is not infallible, and most reasonable officers will see that there could be overlap or missing responsibilities from the chosen NOC.
Let's just hope MushyMush's application lands on the desk of the most reasonable officers they have.
 
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AlmostThere2

Star Member
Apr 22, 2022
192
304
Category........
FSW
AOR Received.
07-08-2020
Hi - I did my soft landing last month. No GTF or GTC asked..

I am planning to visit Canada again (after getting my PR card) but not permanently yet (will move next year). Will that be an issue at immigration?
I don't see why that would be an issue, as long as you are within the time frame to fulfill your residency obligation, ie 720 days, 2 out of 5 years, you can do whatever you like (assuming that there won't be any geopolitical events that could derail things), I too plan on doing a soft landing and doing a hard landing a year afterwards. Cheers!!!
 

aamool

Hero Member
Nov 13, 2018
502
315
Canada
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
0125
AOR Received.
07-02-2019
Med's Done....
22-03-2019
VISA ISSUED...
23-09-2019
LANDED..........
02-10-2019
Hi - I did my soft landing last month. No GTF or GTC asked..

I am planning to visit Canada again (after getting my PR card) but not permanently yet (will move next year). Will that be an issue at immigration?
Once you have your PR card, should be no problem going back and forth. Having recently taken flights out of and back into Canada, I just scanned my documents at a kiosk and an immigration officer scribbled something on my receipt. Zero interactions! Things maybe a bit different at a land border, but
unless you are close to or not fulfilling your residence obligation (which is not the case this year or next) I don't see why you should have any hassles.
 

Jazkh

Star Member
Nov 27, 2019
83
44
Once you have your PR card, should be no problem going back and forth. Having recently taken flights out of and back into Canada, I just scanned my documents at a kiosk and an immigration officer scribbled something on my receipt. Zero interactions! Things maybe a bit different at a land border, but
unless you are close to or not fulfilling your residence obligation (which is not the case this year or next) I don't see why you should have any hassles.
What are the residence obligations? Do you have to stay for a certain duration every year or some similar condition? And what happens if you don't follow the obligation?
 
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What are the residence obligations? Do you have to stay for a certain duration every year or some similar condition? And what happens if you don't follow the obligation?
You won’t lose your PR if you don’t stay some time per year. You just have to be careful with 2/5 years rule. With that being said, there are certain implications with CRA if you don’t stay in Canada 183 days per year. That makes you a non-resident for tax purposes, which means that you have to deal with cra to fix that. Also, you will lose your health insurance if you are outside of the province for more than 6 months, and you will have to reapply for it.
 

ElvisRamaj

Hero Member
Apr 26, 2021
824
1,861
34
Tirana, AL
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
0114
Bro, if you are PNP you would know that choosing wrong NOC does not constitute misrep.

You don't want to know how many of us had to submit multiple PNP applications after rejections due to wrong NOCs. If we misrepresented, we would have been banned for at least 5 years.
A province just declines your nomination for choosing the wrong NOC.

IRCC, on the other hand, has the power to ban you for 5 years. Since picking a wrong NOC doesn't constitute altering/manipulating a document, a case for grave misrepresentation, I believe they would be satisfied at just rejecting the application.
 

ElvisRamaj

Hero Member
Apr 26, 2021
824
1,861
34
Tirana, AL
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
0114
Keyword being: "with intent to deceive", he's not trying to get a leg up by falsifying his information, I personally switched my NOC after ITA, because I found one that matched my duties and responsibilities better, in a completely different section, still got PPR. Bottom line is they know that their system is not infallible, and most reasonable officers will see that there could be overlap or missing responsibilities from the chosen NOC.
Let's just hope MushyMush's application lands on the desk of the most reasonable officers they have.
You did a good job.

That's what I suggested. You have 60 days after the ITA to apply, so use them to choose the correct NOC. What NOC you have in the profile right now doesn't matter, what matters is what you submit.
 

paneka penalty

Star Member
Mar 21, 2022
160
29
Can a employer cancel I-140 after it has been approved for more than 180 days? I have seen contradicting answers. Can someone please answer with evidence?