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@EscoBlades bro, them still can't handle the reality isn't it, hehe, the other user who replied - "Ppl who have PR or COPR in their hands tend to be this condescending. " is already under the impression everybody else is displaying superiority to the pre ita folks. i came across this user once in a thread. hehe
@GandiBaat stepped in later with the tweet
To be fair, I don't agree with @EscoBlades . I can all but guarantee that CEC-only draws will come back, and scores will go sub 400 once again. It just might take some time to get there. I have zero doubt that CEC-only draws will remain for the forseeable future.
 

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To be fair, I don't agree with @EscoBlades . I can all but guarantee that CEC-only draws will come back, and scores will go sub 400 once again. It just might take some time to get there. I have zero doubt that CEC-only draws will remain for the forseeable future.
I think IRCC should invite all 500+ scorers first if they want to continue with CEC only, such a waste not inviting them.
 
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Careful saying this. A certain kangaroo will have an anneurysm if he reads it.
Nothing can help your anti EU view dude. I understand that indian fellows find it much harder to fit into Europe than NA, and also that you don't have the opportunity to be permanent in the US so that only leaves you Canada, but it doesn't change some facts.
 

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Nothing can help your anti EU view dude. I understand that indian fellows find it much harder to fit into Europe than NA, and also that you don't have the opportunity to be permanent in the US so that only leaves you Canada, but it doesn't change some facts.
So he is Indian...hmm interesting. Explains a lot of things.
 
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So he is Indian...hmm interesting. Explains a lot of things.
It doesn't explain anything and people don't choose where they're born. I hadn't spent this much time with Indian/Eastern fellas before so I used to think everyone's view on priorities in life was quite similar especially when it came to immigration. But now I see that it's not true and Indian/Chinese peeps have (and rightly so) different priorities. So, while I still share my views on here I understand the reaction I get from some people.
 
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There is no private healthcare, only private health insurance, you still get to enjoy the wait time even if ur paying for your insurance. On top of that you don’t get to see a specialist without a GP referral. Now it takes like 2 weeks to see a GP and 4-6 months to see a specialist in big cities.
In healthcare, there is concept of triage. Canada does it decently. Basically, if you have a trouble which can cause harm, it will be treated with enough speed. Things like heart conditions, cancers etc. If you have spondalistis or herniated disc which requires a MRI and then support? Well ... you won't get an appointment for 6-7 months minimum.

I saw this first hand. My wife delivered our son here. Her pregnancy was a bit complicated with delivery being particularly complicated. It was all covered by Canadian healthcare system. During delivery, the doctors turned us away a number of times but when the time was right, they admitted us even though they did not have a bed at that time, they accomodated. Similarly during labor, the anesthesist to administer pain control medication --forgot whats called-- was busy else where so they could not be arranged immediately. But they were observing the unborn baby and the mother all the time. When baby's heart rate dropped a little they ALL freaken rushed and in 20 minutes completed the delivery. Next time she developed lumps in her breasts... the doctor got it checked by ultrasound in 3 days and suggested a biopsy immediately. It turned out to be a lactoseal or blocking of milk ducts. Now my wife needed a bit of physio-therapy in recovery. Not much but just a little to manage pain in movement. The physio recommended exercise but next appointment was delayed a hell lot.

One of my friend had an open heart surgery here. It was top class and post operative care was top class too.. But small small things were ignored in terms of making his stay more bearable in hospital. Mind you this was in middle of pandemic.

All being said, in both my wife's case and my friend's case only expense was our transportation cost, some medicines --mostly covered by BC Pharmacare in case of my friend and in my wife's case by her then employer's insurance. We both paid less than 50 dollars in total.

I know people in USA got billed a million dollar for a relatively normal delivery. That being said, in US, the medical care is immediate and more comprehensive ... at a price though.
 

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1. Established a family here and don’t wanna move 2. Waiting for citizenship to get TN. 3. About to get transferred to Seattle via TN or L1.
One of my friend has a family here in Vancouver. He works remotely in USA and used to go to Seattle each month for meetings. He was getting US salary. About 250K CDN. Decent deal. He is planning to move to USA for sometime (alone) to make even more and then come back.

He plans to sell his house and retire in northen BC as soon as he has money.
 

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1. Gun control laws
2. No (or less) mass shootings/ violent hate crimes
3. A woman's right to choose is respected - relatively (abortion laws)
4. Access to birth control options/better women's healthcare
5. LGBTQIA+ rights (or less discrimination)
6. More academic freedom (In contrast to the US backlash against teaching CRT/LGBT/African American history)
7. General healthcare ( and the ability to get primary care and lab work done without worrying about a co-pay of $5000)
8. Child welfare/foster care
9. The political system (no gerrymandering, has a multiparty system that curbs polarization, there is a movement towards proportional representation, for example in PEI, that will make the political system more representative)
Let me be blunt. In Canada, the biggest advantage as an immigrant you have is that you quickly grow as a community that is large enough to start mattering politically. It will not and will never happen in USA. The net impact is that you start getting policies and representatives that are for you. More importantly, Canada tolerates that. Another thing that will NEVER happen in USA. If you want to be involved politically in USA, you have to bend to fit their narrative. Canada accommodates immigrants narrative to a much larger degree. I can NEVER imagine an indian origin person to be EVER secretary of defence in USA. I can expect an Indian-origin or Iranian-origin defence minister in Canada. Ergo, I never expect a visible minority like Sikhs in Canada to be kept in mass detention centres like they did to Japanese in world war 2. USA, is always one or two steps away from declaring minorities and immigrants a national security risk and there is a major appetite for violence and systematic oppression of minorities in USA -- both in public and in government.

US is basically a genocidal country which is barely hiding its such tendencies. They love violence and they love killing those who do not look or think like them. Living in USA is an occupational hazard. One should not make it a life long thing.
 
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Let me be blunt. In Canada, the biggest advantage as an immigrant you have is that you quickly grow as a community that is large enough to start mattering politically. It will not and will never happen in USA.
US is basically a genocidal country which is barely hiding its such tendencies. They love violence and they love killing those who do not look or think like them. Living in USA is an occupational hazard. One should not make it a life long thing.
These only apply to Indians/Chinese/Eastern people though. But that's a lot of people. One point you're probably missing is while Canada will offer much more comfort to Indians/Easterns in daily and possibly professional life, social life won't be all too different than what it would be in the US. In both countries, social integration will always be crippled in right-leaning states/provinces with the only difference being in Canada people will be more subtle about their approach to you as an Indian/Eastern. So in both countries eastern people are limited to liberal/left-leaning states/provinces for maximized social integration and acceptance.

Their kids will have much easier time for sure.
 
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I think IRCC should invite all 500+ scorers first if they want to continue with CEC only, such a waste not inviting them.
That would certainly help me, and I won't complain if that happens. But I have a fundamental problem with how the CRS is set up. 521 for speaking sub par french? Gimme a break. Utterly meaningless. Meanwhile Bachelors with no experience are getting preference over Masters and PhDs with 3+ years of exp and significantly better spoken english skills?

The system is fundamentally broken. If they ever resume FSW draws (they won't), I will benefit from the brokenness of it. Shitty CECs benefited from it all of last year. Good FSWs AND CECs (I consider 470+ CECs to be the good guys, and have zero issues with them getting ITAs over me) are getting fucked over now because of it.
 
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Nothing can help your anti EU view dude. I understand that indian fellows find it much harder to fit into Europe than NA, and also that you don't have the opportunity to be permanent in the US so that only leaves you Canada, but it doesn't change some facts.
My view isn't anti EU lmao. I just said I prefer Canada because everyone I know is in the US. If that ship sails, I have no issues looking at EU. My end goal is probably in EU, but it just doesn't make sense for me now. To anyone who would rather go to EU, absolutely do that if that's the right decision.

Meanwhile you sit here "threatening" to leave for Germany because it's oh so much better, and never actually do. All you do is is whine and whine about SaLaRiEs day in and day out. And then stick with your plan to go to Canada anyway. I tend to agree with you when you're not going on your bitter tirades. But at some point, listening to you just got exhausting. I genuinely do miss when you were more level headed and less bitter.

I can't count how many times I've said I don't give a shit about the US. Canada isn't a 2nd tier US alternative for me. Given the opportunity to stay in both, I'd pick Canada. The US only matters to me because of the people I know there. When the time comes, I'll have zero issues moving to EU. Don't worry about me fitting in, I'll do just fine.
 
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In healthcare, there is concept of triage. Canada does it decently. Basically, if you have a trouble which can cause harm, it will be treated with enough speed. Things like heart conditions, cancers etc. If you have spondalistis or herniated disc which requires a MRI and then support? Well ... you won't get an appointment for 6-7 months minimum.

I saw this first hand. My wife delivered our son here. Her pregnancy was a bit complicated with delivery being particularly complicated. It was all covered by Canadian healthcare system. During delivery, the doctors turned us away a number of times but when the time was right, they admitted us even though they did not have a bed at that time, they accomodated. Similarly during labor, the anesthesist to administer pain control medication --forgot whats called-- was busy else where so they could not be arranged immediately. But they were observing the unborn baby and the mother all the time. When baby's heart rate dropped a little they ALL freaken rushed and in 20 minutes completed the delivery. Next time she developed lumps in her breasts... the doctor got it checked by ultrasound in 3 days and suggested a biopsy immediately. It turned out to be a lactoseal or blocking of milk ducts. Now my wife needed a bit of physio-therapy in recovery. Not much but just a little to manage pain in movement. The physio recommended exercise but next appointment was delayed a hell lot.

One of my friend had an open heart surgery here. It was top class and post operative care was top class too.. But small small things were ignored in terms of making his stay more bearable in hospital. Mind you this was in middle of pandemic.

All being said, in both my wife's case and my friend's case only expense was our transportation cost, some medicines --mostly covered by BC Pharmacare in case of my friend and in my wife's case by her then employer's insurance. We both paid less than 50 dollars in total.

I know people in USA got billed a million dollar for a relatively normal delivery. That being said, in US, the medical care is immediate and more comprehensive ... at a price though.
Good god, someone making sense and giving actual examples instead of vague hypotheticals. And look at that, one person living in Canada has an opinion different from someone else. Who would have thought eh @Yqing237 ?
 
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My view isn't anti EU lmao. I just said I prefer Canada because everyone I know is in the US. If that ship sails, I have no issues looking at EU. My end goal is probably in EU, but it just doesn't make sense for me now. To anyone who would rather go to EU, absolutely do that if that's the right decision.

Meanwhile you sit here "threatening" to leave for Germany because it's oh so much better, and never actually do. All you do is is whine and whine about SaLaRiEs day in and day out. And then stick with your plan to go to Canada anyway. I tend to agree with you when you're not going on your bitter tirades. But at some point, listening to you just got exhausting. I genuinely do miss when you were more level headed and less bitter.

I can't count how many times I've said I don't give a shit about the US. Canada isn't a 2nd tier US alternative for me. Given the opportunity to stay in both, I'd pick Canada. The US only matters to me because of the people I know there. When the time comes, I'll have zero issues moving to EU. Don't worry about me fitting in, I'll do just fine.
Whatever sails your boat. I don't think I'd waste my time threatening citizens of third world countries on some online forum, especially when I have the time, money and opportunity go anywhere I want in the west. I have a PNP app in Canada, ongoing job applications in EU, money to say fuck it all and go get a master's in the US. In fact, I could even say truly fuck it all stay in my country which is only annoying because of the fluctuating economy but that's only annoying because my standards are European standards and not indian standards. Indian people immigrate to my country so I don't expect you to understand my standards.

While you have to stick with Canada because that's your only opportunity, I could go to Germany/Sweden/Netherlands literally in 3 months. But for me, the bigger challenge is to find the best balance between permanency and career. You don't have that luxury, your only priority is permanency because you don't wanna live in India and there aren't many societies which would be willing to give you the things you want. I think that's why you're consistently failing to understand my points.

I don't know what's so hard to understand for you but for people like me (non-EU europeans) Europe has far better opportunities than Canada. But this fact confuses you because you think it means one could absolutely not find a job offer in Canada with a big fat paycheck that no EU job offers could give. It doesn't mean that, one could of course get such a gigantic paycheck in Canada. It's about statistics though.

The rules are simple. If you're western and white: US > EU > Canada. You need to be western and white to understand this. I share my views for everyone, and they get backed up pretty often because they're based on experience and facts. If they don't apply to you (which they indeed may not since you're indian), sure you can get all bitchy but I don't care because it's your problem and many other people wanting to immigrate will find that information useful.
 
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That would certainly help me, and I won't complain if that happens. But I have a fundamental problem with how the CRS is set up. 521 for speaking sub par french? Gimme a break. Utterly meaningless. Meanwhile Bachelors with no experience are getting preference over Masters and PhDs with 3+ years of exp and significantly better spoken english skills?

The system is fundamentally broken. If they ever resume FSW draws (they won't), I will benefit from the brokenness of it. Shitty CECs benefited from it all of last year. Good FSWs AND CECs (I consider 470+ CECs to be the good guys, and have zero issues with them getting ITAs over me) are getting fucked over now because of it.
Maybe having okayish French skills and super good English skills will be beneficial in Canada career-wise or something so the CRS scoring system was designed in such a way so as to allow candidates to combine both to get a big boost but this seems to be pointless at the moment because of no draws. You can definitely become a politician in the future if you are fluent in both English and French.