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[comfortablynumb]

i just saw a case where an applicant's (in IP 2 stage) employment was verified on 12th june and he got PPR on 20th june, so it means it was more of a last minute verification by the Visa officer... or either they very quickly did his security and criminality afterwards...

It might have happened in a few cases. But I certainly don't think its a general trend.

 

[gurik]

It might have happened in a few cases. But I certainly don't think its a general trend.

Good to know.

 

[comfortablynumb]

Yes you are correct, i have seen that too, i think the point here is that eligibility is already determined, and just for the last verifications and approval etc. the file is at the local visa office, where sometimes the Visa officer (for any doubtful reasons) choses to verify Employment at last moment.
@comfortablynumb and @astralsource, your take?

It might have happened in a few cases. But I certainly don't think its a general trend.

 

[astralsource]

Yes you are correct, i have seen that too, i think the point here is that eligibility is already determined, and just for the last verifications and approval etc. the file is at the local visa office, where sometimes the Visa officer (for any doubtful reasons) choses to verify Employment at last moment.
@comfortablynumb and @astralsource, your take?

Dont really have enough facts to answer but logic says they should check only if they see some inconsistency!

 

[KiranK]

At which stage does revising pcc,employment and education happens ip1 or ip2??

After IP 1 is complete, first our eligibility is determined, i.e education and employment (IMO), then comes criminality (PCCs, travel history etc.) and lastly Security (CSIS, Interpol etc. verifications). this is as i have understood from various threads here and mostly from @legalfalcon 's very detailed and useful anatomy of application.

i just saw a case where an applicant's (in IP 2 stage) employment was verified on 12th june and he got PPR on 20th june, so it means it was more of a last minute verification by the Visa officer... or either they very quickly did his security and criminality afterwards...

I am intrigued by this also, because it means when his company was called his eligibility was being checked, hence in a span of 7-8 days they cleared his eligibility, criminality and security, if i am understanding this correctly, so basically to conclude that they can very quickly verify all the above and the time from IP1 to IP2 i.e in NA span nothing happens to our application and it is some sort of waiting period as application is transferred from CIO to LVO?
@legalfalcon please help and clarify.

 

[gurik]

Dont really have enough facts to answer but logic says they should check only if they see some inconsistency!

Yea, same.

 

[Wolverine17]

After IP 1 is complete, first our eligibility is determined, i.e education and employment (IMO), then comes criminality (PCCs, travel history etc.) and lastly Security (CSIS, Interpol etc. verifications). this is as i have understood from various threads here and mostly from @legalfalcon 's very detailed and useful anatomy of application.

I am intrigued by this also, because it means when his company was called his eligibility was being checked, hence in a span of 7-8 days they cleared his eligibility, criminality and security, if i am understanding this correctly, so basically to conclude that they can very quickly verify all the above and the time from IP1 to IP2 i.e in NA span nothing happens to our application and it is some sort of waiting period as application is transferred from CIO to LVO?
@legalfalcon please help and clarify.

So am not sure if the pcc and other checks happen during the na period or ip2 or maybe both

 

[KiranK]

So am not sure if the pcc and other checks happen during the na period or ip2 or maybe both

Same here, that's why I have asked @legalfalcon to help us clarify this. i am too confused. let's wait for his expertise.....

 

[legalfalcon]

After IP 1 is complete, first our eligibility is determined, i.e education and employment (IMO), then comes criminality (PCCs, travel history etc.) and lastly Security (CSIS, Interpol etc. verifications). this is as i have understood from various threads here and mostly from @legalfalcon 's very detailed and useful anatomy of application.

I am intrigued by this also, because it means when his company was called his eligibility was being checked, hence in a span of 7-8 days they cleared his eligibility, criminality and security, if i am understanding this correctly, so basically to conclude that they can very quickly verify all the above and the time from IP1 to IP2 i.e in NA span nothing happens to our application and it is some sort of waiting period as application is transferred from CIO to LVO?
@legalfalcon please help and clarify.

Lets make a few things clear. This whole trend of IP1---> IP2 is all speculation and i have no idea who started this trend. Most application see the change of status messages from BGC going to IP and then NA and then IP. This trend started in Early 2016 and only used to impact some applications. Now most application see it, but I do not see it as a trend, as its is just speculation and some GCMS notes seem to say absolutely contrary to what a lot of people have been saying.

Now lets come to the facts.

Usually IRCC is overwhelmed with applications, but this time there has been a gap as the new draw hasn't taken place so there is a breathing rom and the refugee claims have gone down. This is why the EE applications are being processed much faster. Most within 5 -6 months.

The fastest I have seen an application being processed is 25 days. And it is possible to have the eligibility, criminality and security cleared within a week. Nothing unusual, but not the norm.

In the post there is not much details about the AoR, LVO, so difficult to say anything more.

But this is the sequence:

1. R10
-----Criminality and Medicals are done immediately after the R10. While meds are cleared by Health Canada, Criminality is passed based on the PCCs at the CIO.
2. Eligibility - In two stages - Program analyst and then the final review by the agent.
3. Security - The security starts immediately after the eligibility is recommended passed. So if the applicant is outland, by the time the application is transferred to LVO, the security is done, given that there is no travel history, government jobs and other factors which may delay the process.

This is how the application may be approved within a month.

 

[Wolverine17]

Lets make a few things clear. This whole trend of IP1---> IP2 is all speculation and i have no idea who started this trend. Most application see the change of status messages from BGC going to IP and then NA and then IP. This trend started in Early 2016 and only used to impact some applications. Now most application see it, but I do not see it as a trend, as its is just speculation and some GCMS notes seem to say absolutely contrary to what a lot of people have been saying.

Now lets come to the facts.

Usually IRCC is overwhelmed with applications, but this time there has been a gap as the new draw hasn't taken place so there is a breathing rom and the refugee claims have gone down. This is why the EE applications are being processed much faster. Most within 5 -6 months.

The fastest I have seen an application being processed is 25 days. And it is possible to have the eligibility, criminality and security cleared within a week. Nothing unusual, but not the norm.

In the post there is not much details about the AoR, LVO, so difficult to say anything more.

But this is the sequence:

1. R10
-----Criminality and Medicals are done immediately after the R10. While meds are cleared by Health Canada, Criminality is passed based on the PCCs at the CIO.
2. Eligibility - In two stages - Program analyst and then the final review by the agent.
3. Security - The security starts immediately after the eligibility is recommended passed. So if the applicant is outland, by the time the application is transferred to LVO, the security is done, given that there is no travel history, government jobs and other factors which may delay the process.

This is how the application may be approved within a month.

Ok so what basically happens at the local visa office??

 

[legalfalcon]

Ok so what basically happens at the local visa office??

At the LVO the eligibility is finalized, but in some cases additional checks may be done, which includes verification of work experience claimed. Once this is complete, the security report from CSIS is updated to the file and PPR issued.

 

[xfinity]

Hi guys,
I submitted my application and I received a confirmation of receipt with the application number on it. Is it the AOR or is it just a confirmation ? Can someone please help me out with understanding this ?

 

[farazafzal]

Hi guys,
I submitted my application and I received a confirmation of receipt with the application number on it. Is it the AOR or is it just a confirmation ? Can someone please help me out with understanding this ?

Confirmation(Acknowledgment) of receipt is actually AOR (Acknowledgement of Receipt) of PR application.

 

[xfinity]

Confirmation(Acknowledgment) of receipt is actually AOR (Acknowledgement of Receipt) of PR application.

Thank you! I got it the same day I submitted, I heard some people had to wait few days to get AOR so was just wondering.

 

[KiranK]

Lets make a few things clear. This whole trend of IP1---> IP2 is all speculation and i have no idea who started this trend. Most application see the change of status messages from BGC going to IP and then NA and then IP. This trend started in Early 2016 and only used to impact some applications. Now most application see it, but I do not see it as a trend, as its is just speculation and some GCMS notes seem to say absolutely contrary to what a lot of people have been saying.

Now lets come to the facts.

Usually IRCC is overwhelmed with applications, but this time there has been a gap as the new draw hasn't taken place so there is a breathing rom and the refugee claims have gone down. This is why the EE applications are being processed much faster. Most within 5 -6 months.

The fastest I have seen an application being processed is 25 days. And it is possible to have the eligibility, criminality and security cleared within a week. Nothing unusual, but not the norm.

In the post there is not much details about the AoR, LVO, so difficult to say anything more.

But this is the sequence:

1. R10
-----Criminality and Medicals are done immediately after the R10. While meds are cleared by Health Canada, Criminality is passed based on the PCCs at the CIO.
2. Eligibility - In two stages - Program analyst and then the final review by the agent.
3. Security - The security starts immediately after the eligibility is recommended passed. So if the applicant is outland, by the time the application is transferred to LVO, the security is done, given that there is no travel history, government jobs and other factors which may delay the process.

This is how the application may be approved within a month.

Thank you so much, this has cleared up the stuff, there was so much confusion. Finally understand things. Thank you so much, happy that we can always count on you.
The case being discussed above has AOR- 21st Feb, 2017 and his LVO- New Delhi.