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[medwiz]

Guyz I really need urgent Help please , I'm so confused

I want to apply in NOC 3215 " Medical radiation technologists " , I have 3 years work experience ( my job was x-ray machine operator , I operated CT and computerized tomography scanners , and also Panoramic X-ray ) ..

my only problem is that , this work experience was in a Dental Clinic beause I'm a dentist, I used to take X-ray Intra-orally but also I took many extra-oral xrays for Head Neck region ( for detection of any tumors in the head and neck area ) ..

Anyway,on the HRSDC website Classification page ,here :
http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/noc/english/noc/2011/Occupations.aspx?val=3

above noc 3211 its written : " 321 Medical technologists and technicians (except dental health) " , what do they Mean by Except Dental Health !!! am I eligible to apply under this noc or not !! I searched all the NOCs related to Dentists, Dentistry and Dental Technician ( like those found under NOC 322 Technical occupations in dental health care ) I didn't find anything related to Dental X-ray technician , not even under any title or job duties .. the only NOC that contain job duties related to Xray is NOC 3215 " " Medical radiation technologists " ..

But Still , I can't understand the meaning of (except dental health) , will this make the officer refuse my experience certificate ? or all what matter is the job duties whether its in a dental clinic or other clinics ?

I can post some of the job duties written in my experience Certificate if you wish ..

Please, give me any advice ..

Ok doctor this is going to be a little difficult in my opinion. ..I'm actually a physician myself (I'm participating in this forum here on behalf of my brother who is a computer programmer hence applying under NOC 2174. ...anyway).

You are a dentist who naturally during his everyday work operates and uses radiology machines on your patients. ..we can forget the fact that dentistry (same as medicine) is a regulated profession in Canada which needs a license...we can just focus on the radiation technology aspect of your work.

The main problem is that your work experience would be from a dental Centre and all the duties related to dental radiology. ..The NOC you want to apply under clearly states except dental health. ..so this is geared more towards radiology technicians for general medicine and surgery as is found for example in radiology departments of hospitals. This is not your case I'm afraid.

If you are ready with the rest of your documents try to apply but expect that you might get a rejection based on the fact that your job duties do not match the NOC.

You can also try to email HRSDC Canada to further confirm with them after explaining your case. You can even include their reply with your application to CIC just to strengthen your case...

Wishing you all the best

 

[red9999]

Hi all,

My CC got charged today 20th June'14.

App received date : 7th May'14 @ 10.47 am
NOC- 2131
VO- CPC-O

Good Luck to all,

Congratulations!!! I guess lucky May 7 applicantions are still hot and alive..

 

[mr_masry]

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[red9999]

+1 after your 20 posts..

gee ...thatsit..? thankyou ;D

 

[medwiz]

As long as you have the experience of the NOC provided that you also have the educational qualifications that related to your experience you are good to go!

My understanding is that job experience does not necessarily have to match qualifications. ..you get assessed on your qualification separately. ..but naturally this will be difficult for our friend here (which might complicate his situation further) since his degree is in dentistry. ..so simply WES or any of the other assesment authorities will not be able to assess his degree since he needs a licensing body from Canada to do that (Canadian Dental Asociation I believe)...

 

[droslim]

Don worry mate my cc is charged even though my co. Did not provide letter of reference

Hi what exactly do you mean you didnt provide letter of reference?

 

[medwiz]

I really can't thank you enough dr. for your replay , unfortunately for me : your opinion seems logic , and I guess you are right .. also , like what you said, I will take the risk because I've no other options I guess ..

its a very good idea to mail the HRSDC Canada , I hope they respond to my request regarding this matter soon .. I nearly completed all other required documents and ready to send my application , thats the only obstacle that face me .. by the way, those years of experiece was part time work during my dental study, so I think this may enhance my sitiuation ( a dental student who work as an X-ray Machine operator during his study .. its sounds logic I guess ) .. here are some of my job duties in my experience letter, I want your opinion on them :

- Provide information to patients and explain the x-ray process to keep patients comfortable.
- Position patient and tools for the best possible outcome of the x-ray images, operate, test and maintain radiographic imaging equipment.
- Produce diagnostic images to help with diagnosis of injuries or possible diseases.
- Operate computed tomography (CT) scanners and panoramic imaging to identify and interpret jaw fractures and tumors. - Operate cone beam computed tomography for diagnosing a variety of cancers and determine the size of tumors, evaluation of the jaws and face, diagnosis of trauma, cleft palate assessment, implant planning, endodontic (root canal) diagnosis, and visualization of abnormal teeth.
- Work with specialist physicians and dental staff to quickly process patients and provide x-ray results.
- Emphasis on the use of positioning and placement of the x-ray sensor.

Anyway, I appreciate your help .. glad to see another Egyptian Dr. on Canadavisa

Again the duties you are listing does mention dental X Ray procedures. ..plus all thus should be written on company letterhead which in your case will be a dental Centre. ..Again outside the required NOC...

Another thing that I just mentioned in reply to another post: how will you get your bachelor's degree assessed? Don't you need a license which means exams and so on...?

 

[namaste]

Again the duties you are listing does mention dental X Ray procedures. ..plus all thus should be written on company letterhead which in your case will be a dental Centre. ..Again outside the required NOC...

Another thing that I just mentioned in reply to another post: how will you get your bachelor's degree assessed? Don't you need a license which means exams and so on...?

I think the biggest problem is going to be getting an ECA. I am not sure but since radiation technologist is a regulated profession in Canada, one would have to be assessed by a professional body with a related degree.

As for "other than dental health," it seems to me that it only means that people with dental technology skills such as those listed under NOC 322 (working with denture and stuff like that) are not included in 321. But a specialized radiation technologist working for a dentist would likely be included in 3215 since there simply does not appear to be a separate NOC for this category.

 

[mr_masry]

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[mr_masry]

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[namaste]

I don't agree with you in that point, I already had my Education Credential Assessted by WES .. getting your Education credential assissted is something totally different than working as a dentist in Canada.. I don't need to take any examination to assess my education.

the WES report which I hold in my hands right now says that my degree is equivalent to " Five Years of Professional Study in Canada " ... so that will never be a problem ..

my only problem will be like you said , that my experience certificate will be on Dental Center letterhead ..

Have you read this part? It seems to me that a professional degree (dentist in your case) is not sufficient for NOC 3215.

"Employment requirements

1. Completion of a two- to three-year college, hospital or other approved program in diagnostic radiography or magnetic resonance imaging (for radiological technologists and magnetic resonance technologists), nuclear medicine technology (for nuclear medicine technologists) or radiation therapy (for radiation therapists)
or
2. A bachelor of health sciences in radiography, nuclear medicine or radiation therapy
and
3. A period of supervised practical training are required.
4. Licensure with a regulatory body is required in all provinces.
5. Certification by the Canadian Association of Medical Radiation Technologists is required in all provinces except Quebec."

 

[medwiz]

I don't agree with you in that point, I already had my Education Credential Assessted by WES .. getting your Education credential assissted is something totally different than working as a dentist in Canada.. I don't need to take any examination to assess my education.

the WES report which I hold in my hands right now says that my degree is equivalent to " Five Years of Professional Study in Canada " ... so that will never be a problem ..

my only problem will be like you said , that my experience certificate will be on Dental Center letterhead ..

You are absolutely right that's very true. ..you can get the degree assessed but that does not give you license to practice. ..I was just reading that on CICI website. .


Can I ask you a question please? Since you are Egyptian where'd did you get your documents notarized?

 

[namaste]

Like I said before , I already got my ECA so this will never be a problem..

I really hope you are right, I hope they accept my experience letter certificate and consider me as a radiation technologist ..

I don't know what to do but I think I'll take the risk and send my documents ..

You got your ECA from WES for your professional degree, which is a dentist. But since radiation technologist is a regulated profession, you might need an ECA from a professional body responsible for radiation technologist. You will need to check and make sure that's not the case.

 

[medwiz]

You got your ECA from WES for your professional degree, which is a dentist. But since radiation technologist is a regulated profession, you might need an ECA from a professional body responsible for radiation technologist. You will need to check and make sure that's not the case.

Lool ok my head is starting to spin here this is getting complicated ...This link: http://cicic.ca/401/Immigrating-to-Canada.canada#FSWP

Says that WES can asses radiation technologists. ..only physicians need Medical Council of Canada assessment.

And the IT and Finance guys are complaining. ..at least they don't have to deal with all this licensing headache loool

 

[mr_masry]

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