FSW 2013 Applicants Timeline- Lets Network Here.

[barcomi]

Can you provide other details such as NOC, Application filed, etc so that other members can get an idea

His details are on the spreadsheet (30th May). Admins, could you please update his CC got charged

 

[atefeh1977]

My last experience dictate same story...I'm agree with this.

But I have clues for another scheme.

7. Processing

Processing applications for permanent residence in the Federal Skilled Worker Class involves a series of procedural steps, including an assessment of eligibility for processing by the CIO.
These procedures are described in greater detail in the following sections of this chapter:

•Receiving the application, Section 8;
•Assessing the application against Ministerial Instructions, Section 9;
•Assessing the application against minimum requirements, Section 10;
•Assessing the application against selection criteria, Section 11;
•Making the selection decision, Section 12;
•Determining admissibility, Section 13;
•Rendering a final decision on the application, Section 14.

These are the steps to process an appliation

 

[NRK]

I was misleaded by my consultant who advise that they immidiately charge money while they received application so I sent the dd which was @ 3.5months old while i sent file considering 6months validity and margin of 2.5months but it didnt happen

Its really disheartening......sometimes we don't know where we took chance that could cost that much distress. BTW how much time they took to start process on her app?

 

[atefeh1977]

8.1. Completeness check upon receipt

All applications for permanent residence in the Federal Skilled Worker Class must be submitted to the CIO in Sydney, Nova Scotia.
Applications received at the CIO will first be reviewed for completeness pursuant to R10 and the application kit requirements in place at the time of application receipt, including the following
forms, fees, information and supporting documents:


I have ommited the clauses, but you can refer to the maunal.

 

[atefeh1977]

If it is determined that... the application meets the requirements
pursuant to R10, including the application
kit requirements in place at the time of
application receipt
then the CIC proceed to assess the application against
ministerial instructions (Section 9).


And the point is that if

the application does not meet the
requirements pursuant to R10, including
the application kit requirements in place at
the time of application receipt
then the CIC returns the application to the applicant as
incomplete.
The CIO will record in GCMS that an
application was received and returned to the
applicant, and will take no further action unless
a complete application, as outlined above, is
made.


So here in completeness check, the UCI will be given only to the applications that do not pass completenss check.

 

[atefeh1977]

Then it is the next stage for the applications that have already passed completeness check.



9. Procedure: Assessing the application against Ministerial Instructions

The CIO will assess the applicant's submission as-is and make a final determination of eligibility
for processing under the applicable Ministerial Instructions.

To be eligible for processing, the applicant must have submitted a complete application as per the
kit requirements in place at the time of application and meet all the criteria described in the
applicable Ministerial Instructions in place on the date of application receipt.
If the application is determined to be eligible for processing, the applicant will be informed. Once
the CIO has made a positive eligibility determination, processing has begun and processing fees
are no longer refundable.
If the application is determined to be ineligible for processing, the applicant will be informed and
will receive a refund of processing fees. The application will not be returned to the applicant.
Refer to the Canada Gazette for the current Ministerial Instructions applicable to this class:
http://www.gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/index-eng.html.
Note: Missing admissibility documents (i.e. police certificates) should not delay the final
determination of eligibility for processing. Applicants have been strongly encouraged to
include police certificates with their application. However, if applicants cannot obtain police
certificates, they may still submit the application to the CIO without them. The CIO will not
reject these applications provided they are complete in all other respects. If the application is
placed into processing, the applicant must be ready to submit the police certificates to the
processing office when requested.

 

[atefeh1977]

In this stage:

If the application...meets all the criteria of applicable
Ministerial Instructions
Then the CIO...will make a final positive determination of
eligibility for processing and:
•put the application into process and inform the
applicant (Section 9.1); and
•proceed with assessing the application against
minimum requirements (Section 10).
The processing fees are no longer refundable.


does not meet all the criteria of
applicable Ministerial Instructions
Then the CIO... will make a final negative determination of
eligibility for processing and:
•record the outcome and reasons in GCMS;
•initiate a refund of processing fees; and
•inform the applicant (see Appendix A for
sample letter).
The application will not be returned to the applicant

So here again UCI is attributed to unsuccessfull applications.

The next point is that this year applications receiving NER will be refunded.

 

[atefeh1977]

Then comes the next stage:

9.1. Putting an application into process at the CIO
Following a positive completeness check and final determination of eligibility for processing under
Ministerial Instructions, if any, in place at the time of application, the CIO will:
•create a file in GCMS;
•enter “SW1-FED” in the Category field in GCMS;
•cost recover the applicable processing fees and enter confirmation in GCMS; (Please take note that it is in this stage that the cc/dd is charged/encashed.)
•record the GCMS file number on the paper file;
•send an acknowledgement of receipt letter to the applicant informing them that their file has
been placed into processing and, if applicable, transferred to another office;
•transfer the paper file to the processing office in accordance with existing file transfer policies;
and
•transfer the electronic file to the processing office in GCMS by making that office the primary
office for processing.


Here successful applications are entered into GCSM, and fee will be deducted.

 

[atefeh1977]

If it is determined that... the application meets the requirements
pursuant to R10, including the application
kit requirements in place at the time of
application receipt
proceed to assess the application against
ministerial instructions (Section 9).


And the point is that if

the application does not meet the
requirements pursuant to R10, including
the application kit requirements in place at
the time of application receipt
return the application to the applicant as
incomplete.
The CIO will record in GCMS that an
application was received and returned to the
applicant, and will take no further action unless
a complete application, as outlined above, is
made.


So here in completeness check, the UCI will be given only to the applications that do not pass completenss check.

The next point is that this paragraph appears underneath this stage (completeness check)

Note: Applications that are incomplete or received after any global or sub-cap specified through
Ministerial Instructions has been reached will be returned to the applicant along with
processing fees.

But the process for unsuccessful applications does not refer to recording applications received after the cap when it says "return the application to the applicant as incomplete. The CIO will record in GCMS that an application was received and returned to the applicant, and will take no further action unless
a complete application, as outlined above, is made."


So a question raises here that if applications received after the cap are recorded in GCSM or not.

 

[atefeh1977]

Therefore having a UCI has three implications.

1) The application failed completeness check, which fortunately is recorded in the ECAS and we will know that (God forbids)
2) The application failed processing against ministerial instructions.
3) The applications has successfully passed the two earlier stages. From here on, there would be no refund even if the application is unsuccessful.

The main point again is that when a file is created for the first two cases, the result is already known so it show up in ECAS immediately. But if you have an UCI, but you cannot not check your status it is probable that you can be categorized in the third item.
Do you remember Raj? By calling CIC, he knew that his application is returning so he was in the first item. And note that how soon completeness check was down on his application. So we can have hope unless CIC has been lazy in announcing cap updates which I doubt.

 

[sunlight11]

Therefore having a UCI has three implications.

1) The application failed completeness check, which fortunately is recorded in the ECAS and we will know that (God forbids)
2) The application failed processing against ministerial instructions.
3) The applications has successfully passed the two earlier stages. From here on, there would be no refund even if the application is unsuccessful.

The main point again is that when a file is created for the first two cases, the result is already known so it show up in ECAS immediately. But if you have an UCI, but you cannot not check your status it is probable that you can be categorized in the third item.
Do you remember Raj? By calling CIC, he knew that his application is returning so he was in the first item. And note that how soon completeness check was down on his application. So we can have hope unless CIC has been lazy in announcing cap updates which I doubt.

Now that was quite a detail analysis ... so let's say ppl have UCI and its showing "In Process" in the ECAS status, where do they fall then ?

 

[ece24544]

After "As of" debate, seems new debate for "UCI".... :-*

 

[atefeh1977]

Now that was quite a detail analysis ... so let's say ppl have UCI and its showing "In Process" in the ECAS status, where do they fall then ?

I believe it is the third kind of UCI: that is an application that will received PER most probably, and they are waiting to charge the cc to enter it in the GCSM. Unless there is a problem in the payment. Please again take note that the cost recovery is mentioned in the third stage of processing.
It says

Following a positive completeness check and final determination of eligibility for processing under
Ministerial Instructions, if any, in place at the time of application, the CIO will:
•create a file in GCMS;
•enter “SW1-FED” in the Category field in GCMS;
•cost recover the applicable processing fees and enter confirmation in GCMS; (Please take note that it is in this stage that the cc/dd is charged/encashed.)
•record the GCMS file number on the paper file;
•send an acknowledgement of receipt letter to the applicant informing them that their file has
been placed into processing and, if applicable, transferred to another office;
•transfer the paper file to the processing office in accordance with existing file transfer policies;
and
•transfer the electronic file to the processing office in GCMS by making that office the primary
office for processing.

 

[sunlight11]

After "As of" debate, seems new debate for "UCI".... :-*

Well ... Because it is more Important than "Cap As Of"

 

[sunlight11]

I believe it is the third kind of UCI: that is an application that will received PER most probably, and they are waiting to charge the cc to enter it in the GCSM.

So if the applicant falls into first two categoies, what would ECAS show ?