Freaking out

[Ravcat]

You can call your common-law partner 'my partner' or 'my spouse' or 'my common-law partner' or 'my common-law spouse'. You should not call your common-law partner 'boyfriend' or 'girlfriend', at least in your PR application. In real life it's OK, of course.

I totally agree. When I first read the posts I was going to address that...but didnt know how. A common law marriage is basically 'we would be married but X is the reason why we are not BUT we see ourselves as married but havent/wont do so for whatever reason'..wither it be personal reasons for not getting married aka "I dont believe in marriage"-which is totally understandable to the religious, he is of X religion, I am X religion, we cant be married because of this...

Referring yourselves as Girlfriends/Boyfriend in this process is defiantly not long term relationship status...which is what they are wanting.

 

[spinning_sponsor]

And that is exactly why your application for sponsorship as his Common-Law partner may be denied...because you absolutely have to prove this to CIC, and a couple of letters from your mothers ain't gonna do it!

I applied as Common-law for my partner to immigrate, and we supplied a ton of info. Rent receipts (no joint lease though since I was unaware at the time non-residents could co-sign), pictures, bills with both our names, joint credit card, chat logs, airline tickets, proof we brought her cat to Canada with us, and I STILL feel like CIC is going to be overly strict and ask for more. I couldn't even fathom applying as common-law without as much info as I did. I can see an application being rejected easily if no supporting information is provided.

 

[DarkDragons91]

We do plan on getting married at this stage and I will make sure everything is covered this time just in case all goes bad. Thank you all for all this infor. We do have a joint bank account but I don't use his card so that is not going to help much. His mother is sort of his landlord as he lives with her but they live in a apartment complex so she isnt really the landlord of the building (just landlord of him).

I sent all kinds of things. Gifts receipts ( I paid for his laptop for school), Some photos we did manage to take, letters from parents, letters from my friends because everyone knows he exists. XD!! I might ask to see if I can switch it over to Spousal and hope for the best on that one once we do get married.

I will also make sure to refer to him as my partner from now on or my spouse. I don't want to refer to him as common-law if I cant really have the evidence needed to back it up. XD!! I really wish I got more now that I know all this

 

[scylla]

You can't switch an application from one class to another. If you filed as common law the application will be processed as such even if you get married. If you end up having issues being approved by CIC as a common law couple - you would have to submit a brand new application once you are married.

 

[Ponga]

It would be unfair for CIC to approve this application since there was absolutely NO proof of a Common-Law relationship. None!

The OP should be prepared for a refusal and then start all over again after she is married.

 

[Ravcat]

It would be unfair for CIC to approve this application since there was absolutely NO proof of a Common-Law relationship. None!

The OP should be prepared for a refusal and then start all over again after she is married.

I agree, after re-reading all the posts and stuff. Having a Mother vouch that they lived together or something...isnt going to cut it. I mean if it was all that easy...any one could have friends/family write letters and thats it? You get handed a PR under CL? Nope...

They need some sort of proof. If they actually lived together for 1 year, and stuff, you would think...you would have receipts for buying groceries? Maybe with their CC??? Bills being paid? But they didnt live jointly...just him living with his Mom/someone else paying bills? (sorry if that is wrong I am not sure what the situation was, other than he is a student and living with his Mom or something?)

BUT Lets take a step back. If they are to pursue this again, in the future, even after being married, you will still have to provide proof of relationship/genuine marriage. They need to start NOW building a case. Pictures. Receipts. Emails/Skype/FB...Sending cards to eachother. Have him send flowers to her, even cheap bouquets, save the cards and receipts... Send candy in the mail, save the receipts and labels from shipping them.

You said in your 1 post that the text you gave them had a lot of cursing and hatred in them...no bueno. Start rebuilding your bond/friendship and start lovey-doving it up for the sake of your application.

The saying goes "A liar never has to remember anything" because when things are true and genuine, there will be proof spilling out for you to use.

If yall are to be married and stuff like you said, where is the lovey dovy proposal? Or any story of that happening? Ours was rediculous, and not romantic. He proposed to me in NYC waiting on a flight to Bermuda, I said yes, took it back after he didnt ask my father. He was heart broken etc...but ya know tradition is tradition and he didnt ask my Dad. SHAME ON HIM RIGHT HAHA...anyways...yea...

You need to brace yourself for the rejection, and for rebuilding a case and looking at a year of providing proof and stuff to reapply again and get your stories straight

 

[Ravcat]

Another question, who is the sponsor?

"My boyfriend does not work at all so he does not have a paystub nor does he have any form of income. Should I write a letter explaining that he does not have either of those, with my mailing address."

Is the Mom sponsoring you? Something I cannot find in this post is addressing who the sponsor is and if it was him, him having no job and stuff is an issue, and would have to get a co-signer to sponsor. The Co-Signer would be responsible for you for years, regardless if yall broke up/divorced/etc...This is called an undertaking...

 

[SenoritaBella]

OK, let's not get all self-righteous here. Wasn't it a few weeks ago you had wanted to cancel/withdraw your sponsorship over quarrels with your partner? Now you have a decision this week and feel empowered to pass judgement? Hmm... stones and glass houses.

I would like to think you want to help but there is no reason to be condescending though. Also, there is no minimum income to sponsor a spouse or dependent children. He would only need to provide an explanation for how he would support her and himself and his mom could also provide an affidavit stating she'd help them until they get on their feet.

Another question, who is the sponsor?

"My boyfriend does not work at all so he does not have a paystub nor does he have any form of income. Should I write a letter explaining that he does not have either of those, with my mailing address."

Is the Mom sponsoring you? Something I cannot find in this post is addressing who the sponsor is and if it was him, him having no job and stuff is an issue, and would have to get a co-signer to sponsor. The Co-Signer would be responsible for you for years, regardless if yall broke up/divorced/etc...This is called an undertaking...

 

[Ravcat]

OK, let's not get all self-righteous here. Wasn't it a few weeks ago you had wanted to cancel/withdraw your sponsorship over quarrels with your partner? Now you have a decision this week and feel empowered to pass judgement? Hmm... stones and glass houses.

I would like to think you want to help but there is no reason to be condescending though. Also, there is no minimum income to sponsor a spouse or dependent children. He would only need to provide an explanation for how he would support her and himself and his mom could also provide an affidavit stating she'd help them until they get on their feet.

Yep that's true, because of issues with waiting for a super long time. Stuff happens, I am sorry you are willing to pass judgement on me because I choose to share issues with stuff that was going on with my app, doesnt mean I am stupid and dont know/cant input on someone elses application problem because I had time-issues with mine.

And yes I am only trying to help, point out things that seem to be an issue, etc. Lord only knows if we did get a yes on our DM, could be that we have a no and are going to have to have help ourselves

Not passing judgement, I am just saying I don't think there was an understanding to the common law application to begin with. You cant just have an affidavit saying the Mom would support them, she would have to become a co-signer for their sponsorship, linking her responsible for the term of the 'agreement' to be a cosigner which is 3 years long, regardless of change of relationship status, divorce, etc. OR can you just have an affidavit, I don't know. I wouldn't think so? That's the way I understand it to be.

The sponsorship agreement says that you will provide all basic necessities, food, clothing, shelter, fuel, utilities, household supplies, personal requirements, and other goods and services, including eye care, dental care, and other health needs not included in public health...etc... (couldnt copy paste that for some reason)...

So they have to prove to them that they can do that, either by cosigner and stuff that agrees to do all of that...etc?

 

[LLAngel]

Actually, I'm pretty certain you can't have a co-signer for sponsoring spouses. Only if you sponsoring other family class members.

 

[zardoz]

Actually, I'm pretty certain you can't have a co-signer for sponsoring spouses. Only if you sponsoring other family class members.

You are absolutely correct. Co-sponsors are not permitted with spousal sponsorship.

 

[LLAngel]

You are absolutely correct. Co-sponsors are not permitted with spousal sponsorship.

Thanks for confirming Zardoz

 

[Ravcat]

Wow, so what are the options? An affidavit like Senorita suggested ?

 

[canadianwoman]

If the sponsor does not have a job and also no income or savings, it is good to include a letter explaining how the couple will support themselves when the applicant first arrives. So if a family member is willing to give them a place to stay and to support them while they look for jobs, they can say this in the letter and provide proof. So the mother in this case could write a letter stating she will be helping the couple at first. An affidavit is better than a letter.

 

[jamsham12]

OK, let's not get all self-righteous here. Wasn't it a few weeks ago you had wanted to cancel/withdraw your sponsorship over quarrels with your partner? Now you have a decision this week and feel empowered to pass judgement? Hmm... stones and glass houses.

I would like to think you want to help but there is no reason to be condescending though. Also, there is no minimum income to sponsor a spouse or dependent children. He would only need to provide an explanation for how he would support her and himself and his mom could also provide an affidavit stating she'd help them until they get on their feet.

+1 for the ownage