I applied in september 2008 in NOC 0411. When the 38 occupation list came this NOC was not there. But NOC 0311, which was in the 38 list mentioned in "listed else where" the NOC code 0411. Through case specific enquiry I sent a request to change my NOC from 0411 to 0311. Description of duties in my case remained almost the same. I received a letter in May asking to submit documents in 120 days. I guess it worked. My sugestion to all is to request change of NOC through case specific enquiry if you think your job description matches some other NOC.