Foreign work experience question - 11 months?

[pixelfrontier]

When filling out the "Work history" section of my EE profile for each job you've had you're only asked to provide month and year of when you started working and month and year of when you finished working for that job.

Turns out I have foreign work experience that started on a 31st of May and ended on April the 30th of the next year. So it is actually 11 months + 1 day though it does span 12 months because of that one day of May that I worked. Now, EE is giving me points for one full year of work experience since apparently all they care about is months and years and not specific dates.

What do you guys think about this? Especially those of you who know someone or have any experience with someone who applied under the FSW category pre EE, where people were asked to prove they've worked for one year. I do have my reference letter from my employer and pay slips to boot. Should I go ahead and keep this in my EE profile (and retain my points) or should I scrap it off my profile since it's actually 11 months + 1 day and not 12 months?

???

 

[SMCANADAVISA]

When filling out the "Work history" section of my EE profile for each job you've had you're only asked to provide month and year of when you started working and month and year of when you finished working for that job.

Turns out I have foreign work experience that started on the 31st of May and ended on April the 30th of the next year. So it is actually 11 months + 1 day though it does span 12 months because of that one day of May that I worked. Now, EE is giving me points for one full year of work experience since apparently all they care about is about months and years.

What do you guys think about this? Especially those of you who know someone or have any experience with someone who applied under the FSW category pre EE, where people were asked to prove they've worked for one year. I do have my reference letter from my employer and pay slips to boot. Should I go ahead and keep this in my EE profile (and retain my points) or should I scrap it off my profile since it's actually 11 months + 1 day and not 12 months?

???

Canadian work experience of 1 year is counted in days. If yours is above 365 days you qualify for CEC.

 

[pixelfrontier]

I have about 1 year and a half of Canadian work experience, so that wouldn't be an issue. But this is foreign work experience and it was only 11 months and 1 day. If I delete that from my profile I'll lose about 30 points and that would be sad. So that's my question.

 

[SMCANADAVISA]

I have about 1 year and a half of Canadian work experience, so that wouldn't be an issue. But this is foreign work experience and it was only 11 months and 1 day. If I delete that from my profile I'll lose about 30 points and that would be sad. So that's my question.

uhhh...technically you do not have the year's experience then. Even though you are loosing out on 30 points do not misinform CIC. They will catch up with you later on that 11 months+1 day thing.

 

[veritas]

uhhh...technically you do not have the year's experience then. Even though you are loosing out on 30 points do not misinform CIC. They will catch up with you later on that 11 months+1 day thing.

hi, i have a similar issue. I worked 12 days of a month. Can I count that month as a complete month?

 

[coolhyd]

hi, i have a similar issue. I worked 12 days of a month. Can I count that month as a complete month?

No you cannot cliam it as one year.

In your employment letter you need to give exact dates: jan 1, 2015 till Dec 31, 2015.

Even if you get an ITA, your PR application will be rejected later. So be very careful when submitting your express entry profile.

 

[veritas]

No you cannot cliam it as one year.

In your employment letter you need to give exact dates: jan 1, 2015 till Dec 31, 2015.

Even if you get an ITA, your PR application will be rejected later. So be very careful when submitting your express entry profile.

Hi coolhyd, thanks for your response. So this is the situation with my spouse: he resigned at work on 1st august and the remaining month was his notice period. He went to office till the 12th and flew to canada on the 14th on study permit. Before leaving, he put a leave application at office to utilise his remaining leaves of the year. Technically, august counts. But for CIC, would it?

 

[lazybone]

I have about 1 year and a half of Canadian work experience, so that wouldn't be an issue. But this is foreign work experience and it was only 11 months and 1 day. If I delete that from my profile I'll lose about 30 points and that would be sad. So that's my question.

Hi coolhyd, thanks for your response. So this is the situation with my spouse: he resigned at work on 1st august and the remaining month was his notice period. He went to office till the 12th and flew to canada on the 14th on study permit. Before leaving, he put a leave application at office to utilise his remaining leaves of the year. Technically, august counts. But for CIC, would it?

any foreign work experience it has to be 1 continuous year for you to claim points for that experience...when you put your work experience on your profile..even though the system might calculate it for a year and give you those extra points...dont assume the cic officers will...the officers will check if you have actually worked for that one year when they are verifying your points....if at that time, if you lost the 30 points and your score fell below the cut off for that draw...then application might be rejected due to "more points claimed"...so as coolhyd said be very careful before you claim those points...
all that matters to an officer regarding your foreign work experience is the date you joined and the date you left on your employment certificate/experience letter...if that duration is 1 year or more...you can use it to claim points

hope that helps!

 

[veritas]

any foreign work experience it has to be 1 continuous year for you to claim points for that experience...when you put your work experience on your profile..even though the system might calculate it for a year and give you those extra points...dont assume the cic officers will...the officers will check if you have actually worked for that one year when they are verifying your points....if at that time, if you lost the 30 points and your score fell below the cut off for that draw...then application might be rejected due to "more points claimed"...so as coolhyd said be very careful before you claim those points...
all that matters to an officer regarding your foreign work experience is the date you joined and the date you left on your employment certificate/experience letter...if that duration is 1 year or more...you can use it to claim points

hope that helps!

thanks lazybone that helps a lot. I have one more question:

if a full time job in one NOC and a part time job in a different NOC are performed simultaneously for some time, would hours for both be counted separately or as one?

 

[lazybone]

The maximum hours that can be claimed for any given period are 30 hours per week. This includes all jobs during that period. So if you already had a full time job during that period with 30 hours per week or more, the part time job does not add any additional hours.

Agreed with dan_and

if in your fulltime job you say you are working 30 hrs or more...you have reached the max number of hours/week for that period(1 year or more) ...so the part time job is not applicable if you are claiming points under the F/T job for that period...

hope that helps!

 

[Bs65]

Hi coolhyd, thanks for your response. So this is the situation with my spouse: he resigned at work on 1st august and the remaining month was his notice period. He went to office till the 12th and flew to canada on the 14th on study permit. Before leaving, he put a leave application at office to utilise his remaining leaves of the year. Technically, august counts. But for CIC, would it?

Technically your spouse is still employed through the notice period until end August however as I see it this proposal to claim all August falls down given your spouse landed in Canada August 14th so any period after that given will be in Canada probably cannot be counted as foreign experience just the fact of being in Canada. This will likely at some point come up in any future application claiming the 12 months.

 

[veritas]

Technically your spouse is still employed through the notice period until end August however as I see it this proposal to claim all August falls down given your spouse landed in Canada August 14th so any period after that given will be in Canada probably cannot be counted as foreign experience just the fact of being in Canada. This will likely at some point come up in any future application claiming the 12 months.

I'm worried about that too. May be its better to not mention August at all.

 

[istari]

I'm worried about that too. May be its better to not mention August at all.

EE's automatic system calculates based on full months. Specific dates within those months only come into play once you submit your documents.
So if you mention August, the system will count all of August, and it is then up to you in your post-ITA submission to clarify which parts of August.

As a rule, it's best to list the employment period as it is written in your reference letter.

 

[Dedicated]

EE's automatic system calculates based on full months. Specific dates within those months only come into play once you submit your documents.
So if you mention August, the system will count all of August, and it is then up to you in your post-ITA submission to clarify which parts of August.

It's weird in my opinion that applicants should suffer because of such a flaw of the system (where you can't indicate the exact date you started, but only the month and the year).
I think not so many people start their new job on the first day of the month and resign on the final day (OK, resignation may be more common, but not the start date).

I started one of my jobs on the 23rd of November and the other one on the 17th of November. So logically November should not count in both of the cases. I think they will neglect those two Novembers, right?
But again my CRS score will be completely incorrect once I pass from the 2-year experience to the 3-year experience in the system...

 

[veritas]

Thank you guys for the insights. We are missing the three year mark just by 1 month. My spouse has 35 months of foreign work experience. :-[ :-[

CIC says that for calculating foreign work experience, two separate full-time jobs in the same NOC will be considered as one job. It does not say what the case would be for two different NOCs.

Any thoughts?