FIRST ATTEMPT: Permit rejected - need advice (UAE)

[Josh21]

I'd recommend not showing anyone other then your parents as sponsors. If you list someone else, other questions pop up. Why is this person helping you? Does he have enough to support you while supporting his family a the same time etc.

If you are showing him, I'd suggest you ask him to transfer the money to your bank account and then say where the money came from with his affidavit.

 

[ks32]

I'd recommend not showing anyone other then your parents as sponsors. If you list someone else, other questions pop up. Why is this person helping you? Does he have enough to support you while supporting his family a the same time etc.

If you are showing him, I'd suggest you ask him to transfer the money to your bank account and then say where the money came from with his affidavit.

Ah... this complicates things in that case. The person is my dad's blood brother. The bank statements do include his monthly salary payments etc.. I do have a signed affidavit of him agreeing to provide funding for my education. The affidavit is simply formality's sake -- he will not actually fund my education. His bank statement shows a much higher balance, which is the only reason I am using it

Would it be necessary? in my original application I did not include ANY assets in the application. Just my dad's bank statement.

Transferring funds will be a tricky affair indeed.

I am wondering, should I just explain all this in my letter of explanation? I do think honesty would genuinely be the best policy here

 

[ks32]

BUMP.

Urgent question : Proof of funds includes bank statement by my uncle. I have a signed letter from him agreeing to fund the costs of education. Do I need to do anything else for this? He will not actually be paying for tuition, my dad just has a low balance at the moment and so I used my uncle's statement.

need help!

 

[Josh21]

Yes, that's fine.

 

[ks32]

Thanks Josh21!

 

[rcpp]

By letter of support/sponsorship, do you mean a simple letter by my parents accepting responsibility of all expenses over the course of the study period and signed by them? Or an official letterhead with an official notary?
Yup, and state as well why do they want you to continue your studies in Canada, and other things they want to tell the officer. I believe doing this won't affect your application negatively because they will just simply clarify few points to whatever the officer's doubts are.
The only document coming from your sponsors that needs to be notarized are Affidavit of Support (and/or Custodianship Declaration - if you will be residing with your relatives in Canada)

In regards to receipt of semester fees - I have only paid the security deposit. The university has not requested funds yet but the final date of payment is September 4th. I do have the receipt for the security deposit that was paid (the deposit is included in the tuition fee, so it would count, no?). What should I include in the explanation letter?
Do include that receipt of your security deposit. Attaching an explanation letter is optional, not mandatory. I only did it to explain about my account status and when I will be registered for my courses. About the fees, even my university did not ask for me to pay it yet, but I still did so I could include the receipt to my application and be it an additional document for proof of funds.

I do have distant relatives residing in Canada but I don't think including them would be necessary. I need to submit a new application ASAP and getting in contact with them will take at least 2 days...
Are you getting support from them, like accommodation, food and other necessities while you will be in Canada? If not, then I don't think it's necessary for you include them as this might be an issue to the v.o.

I'll get back to you on the study plan
Sure thing. I'd be happy to help

in regards to your question: It includes all expenses: living, tuition, and general expenses. I shall show an amount higher than the required one. I made a mistake showing a lower amount thinking they would consider expenses on a monthly basis
It's better to show an amount higher than the required minimum to be on the safer side, but that won't guarantee you the issuance of visa. Make sure that your parents/sponsor earn money adequate to support your needs. Do include their pay slips as well - 4 to 6 months - if you want to show they're earning more than their fixed salary (e.g. added bonuses, allowances, etc.)

 

[ks32]

Thanks rcpp. Your previous post regarding your acceptance helped me out too.

I'm still a bit worried because:

1) I mentioned getting a US visa this June (2014) but forgot to mention I had a USA 5 year visa before as well and did visit and exit the country.

2) I have also provided a bank statement of my uncle which shows about 350k Dhs which is about $100,000 and my dad's bank statement which shows about AED 10-15k. I did submit a signed letter by my parents and uncle agreeing to support all costs. (uncle lives in UAE, not canada)

3) the property we own back home does not state the value of the property anywhere. Only two property certificates indicate the installments my dad has paid and completed.



Although the USA thing is a small issue, I'm worried I'll be rejected again for personal assets...

Any thoughts to calm these nerves? :|

EDIT: ah crap. Just went through your first post on this topic. Forgot to submit the security deposit paid to the university!

 

[rcpp]

1) If you have mentioned it on your SOP/Study Plan/wherever you did, and if you have submitted your passport, or at least an all-page copy of your passport(s) where there are US entry/exit stamps, I suppose the V.O. would notice that.

2) Is the letter Notarized? Notarizing it would make the document seem more legal. Did you submit your dad's and uncle's payslips and salary certificates? And who did you mention under "My expenses in Canada will be paid by:" in the Details of Intended Study in Canada (Continued) section?

3) Value of the property isn't actually needed, unless your family plans on using it as an asset to pay for your fees. Otherwise, showing that you and your family have a property back home can suffice for proof of home ties.

I heard you can still send updates on your application to them through the Case Specific Enquiry, just not sure if this is possible in your case regarding the security deposit receipt.

Think positive bro. Let's hope everything will work for you this time When did you re-apply?

 

[xecuter]

other seniors may have different views,

in your scenario home tie will be Key factor, as you mentioned living in UAE for last 30 years , but its not your home country and you are not permanent resident .
Father is accompany you might get suspicious signals to visa officer, in my opinion he should wait atleast you to get visa.

I agree 100%.

 

[ks32]

1) the recent US visa I received is on my new passport. So it doesn't have the old US visa or the entry/exit stamps...
But I have shown the new US visa

2) If my notarized you mean by an official notary -- no. It's a letter that says 'We, the people's name who will sign this letter*, agree to und / cover all costs etc" and then it's signed by 3 people -- my parents and uncle.

3) well my dad does plan on using them in worst case scenarios... but my uncle's bank statement shows 3x the first year tuition balance. Although I haven't submitted my uncle's payslip, his bank statement does show salary payments

I reapplied on 5th August.
I'm really worried because if I get rejected..i might have to look for another uni or worse..study here.

 

[rcpp]

1) I guess that will suffice, but it could have been better if you submitted copies of all your passports so the VO could see your travel history as well. Anyway, having a US visa a major plus since both countries have similar criteria in issuing visas.

2) That looks okay.

3) But who did you mention under "My expenses in Canada will be paid by:" in the Details of Intended Study in Canada (Continued) section? Your parents or uncle or parents and uncle?

If the university you have applied to has a January intake, it's better to opt for that instead of waiting another year to re-apply. Think positive bro.

 

[Furqan Nadim]

Yes you have to go through Bio metrics again

 

[ks32]

1) I guess that will suffice, but it could have been better if you submitted copies of all your passports so the VO could see your travel history as well. Anyway, having a US visa a major plus since both countries have similar criteria in issuing visas.

2) That looks okay.

3) But who did you mention under "My expenses in Canada will be paid by:" in the Details of Intended Study in Canada (Continued) section? Your parents or uncle or parents and uncle?

If the university you have applied to has a January intake, it's better to opt for that instead of waiting another year to re-apply. Think positive bro.

I mentioned "Family and parents" for funding.

I'm feeling a bit assured. I checked my correspondence letter (for rejection) and the officer rejected me because:
"I am not satisfied that you will return to your country at the end of your studies. I used this factor: personal assets etc"

That means he just wanted home ties connections -- in my first application I did not show any passport entry/exit stamps to my home country nor any property proof my parents had in home country.

I have attached all that now... think I will get it this time.

Thanks rcpp, lunch is on me if we ever meet

 

[Josh21]

You might want to defer entry if its unlikely that you'll get the visa before classes start. I'm not sure what processing time is like in UAE.

In any case if you do get rejected, studying in the UAE isn't all that bad. You could go to the U.S/Canada for a masters if things dont work out now so remember it isn't the end of the world.

 

[rcpp]

I mentioned "Family and parents" for funding.

I'm feeling a bit assured. I checked my correspondence letter (for rejection) and the officer rejected me because:
"I am not satisfied that you will return to your country at the end of your studies. I used this factor: personal assets etc"

That means he just wanted home ties connections -- in my first application I did not show any passport entry/exit stamps to my home country nor any property proof my parents had in home country.

I have attached all that now... think I will get it this time.

Thanks rcpp, lunch is on me if we ever meet

I had the same reason from the visa officer when I first applied for a student visa. What I did to overcome it was submit more proof of funds documents both from my parents and uncle who's in Canada - it included more letters (from both) and added funds in the bank (with supporting documents, ofc.)

That's great then. But it would have been better if you submitted a photocopy of all your passports (including old ones) to show the v.o. countries you've been to aside from your home country. I also used my passport stamps and properties of my parents for home ties and I hope it works for you too.

Yeah sure, I'm all good as long as I'm available. My flight's already next week though. I hope you hear something from the embassy soon!

All the best bud!