Fewer Spouses & Dependent Children in 2012

[rjessome]

I read a blog this morning that stated that the decrease in spouses and children is due to the number of applicants being lower than previous years, not because the Minister is going to limit them. That's good news. The Minister is making some announcements today and rumor has it that there will be a cap placed on the number of applications in the parents/grandparents category to reduce the backlog. The conditional visa for spouses may also be a part of the announcements. Will wait and see what the Minister says.

 

[suva]

I read a blog this morning that stated that the decrease in spouses and children is due to the number of applicants being lower than previous years, not because the Minister is going to limit them. That's good news. The Minister is making some announcements today and rumor has it that there will be a cap placed on the number of applications in the parents/grandparents category to reduce the backlog. The conditional visa for spouses may also be a part of the announcements. Will wait and see what the Minister says.

u always bring us new news... man u r the boss ;D

 

[Indigo]

My guess is not an increased number of rejections, but an increased processing time. And we all know that will solve nothing...

 

[suva]

My guess is not an increased number of rejections, but an increased processing time. And we all know that will solve nothing...

increased processing time??? , how???

 

[Indigo]

Let's hope it does not happen.

 

[mirjahan]

I think they should make cap on Skill worker and reduce processing time for spouse sponsor.
And skill worker can not bring their wife/husband and dependent children with them can be after 3 years of arrival.

Why we need lot of skill worker where

Economy sheds 54,000 jobs as unemployment rate jumps to 7.3 per cent

http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/Economy-sheds-54-000-jobs-capress-3142093544.html?x=0
Why they are focusing more to bring more skill worker where people are losing job.
I do not understand immigration minister math.

In my opinion Immigration Minister can follow those.
reduce skill worker unless urgent category.
Skill worker can not bring their wife/husband or dependent child with them can be after 3 years of their arrival.

 

[bestplace4u]

OTTAWA, ONTARIO -- (Marketwire) -- 11/04/11 -- The Government of Canada is taking immediate action to cut the backlog and wait times for sponsored parents and grandparents, Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism Minister Jason Kenney announced today.
Currently, more than 165,000 parents and grandparents who have applied to become permanent residents of Canada are still waiting for a final decision. Each year, Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) receives applications for sponsorship of nearly 38,000 parents and grandparents, a number that will only continue to expand if no action is taken.
"Wait times for Family Class sponsorship applications for parents and grandparents now exceed seven years, and without taking action, those times will continue to grow, and that is unacceptable," said Minister Kenney. "Action must be taken to cut the backlog, reduce the wait times, and ensure that the parents and grandparents program is sustainable over the long run."

To deal with the large backlog and lengthy wait times, Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) is announcing Phase I of the Action Plan for Faster Family Reunification.
First - The Government of Canada will increase by over 60 percent the number of sponsored parents and grandparents Canada will admit next year, from nearly 15,500 in 2010 to 25,000 in 2012 - the highest level in nearly two decades.
Second - The government is introducing the new "Parent and Grandparent Super Visa," which will be valid for up to 10 years. The multiple-entry visa will allow an applicant to remain in Canada for up to 24 months at a time without the need for renewal of their status. The Parent and Grandparent Super Visa will come into effect on December 1, 2011, and CIC will be able to issue the visas, on average, within eight weeks of the application. This means that instead of waiting for eight years, a parent or a grandparent can come to Canada within eight weeks. Parent and Grandparent Super Visa applicants will be required to obtain private Canadian health-care insurance for their stay in Canada.
Third - The government will consult Canadians on how to redesign the parents and grandparents program to ensure that it is sustainable in the future. The redesigned program must avoid future large backlogs and be sensitive to fiscal constraints.
Fourth - To prevent the build-up of an unmanageable number of new applications during these consultations and to further reduce the 165,000-strong backlog of parent and grandparent applicants, CIC is putting in place a temporary pause of up to 24 months on the acceptance of new sponsorship applications for parents and grandparents. The pause comes into effect on November 5, 2011.
"The Government of Canada is fully committed to helping families reunite," said Minister Kenney. "We recognize that what parents and grandparents want most is to be able to spend time with their families."
"If we do not take real action now, the large and growing backlog in the parents and grandparents program will lead to completely unmanageable wait times. Through this balanced series of measures, we will be able to dramatically reduce the backlog and wait times, while the new Parent and Grandparent Super Visa will allow more family members to pay extended visits to their loved ones," added the Minister. "We anticipate that in about two years, following our consultations, Phase II of our Action Plan for Faster Family Reunification will come into effect, ensuring that future applicants are processed quickly and that the program can operate on an efficient and sustainable basis."
For additional information on Phase I of CIC's Action Plan for Faster Family Reunification : 10.24.211.48:100/english/department/media/backgrounders/2011/2011-11-04.asp .
A photograph of Minister Kenney will be available later today at www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/photos/high-res/index.asp : .
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[Indigo]

Unemployment might be rising, but not in the professions that skilled workers have. There is a shortage of all these 26 professions, which is why they are welome to go to Canada. But I do think that for some of these professions it is very hard for the skilled workers to actually be allowed to work in their profession due to licenses and bureaucracy.
Of course skilled workers should be able to bring their families, it's cruel to seperate existing families, just like it's cruel keep family class applicants seperate.

I know the wait is frustrating. It is not unfair though, although I do admit the waiting times in some visa offices are long. We spouses are already privileged because we know we will 99.9% sure get to live in Canada with our loved ones. Demanding the government to make everybody else wait because we think we're so darn special that we deserve to be prioritized, is short sighted. The process has to be fair, that's all I ask.

 

[BT1975]

I've met several skilled workers who applied and got into Canada, stuck around for a couple of years to obtain a passport and then left to work abroad. They want an easier passport to travel on and plan to go back to Canada to retire, but they will live and work contributing to other countries' economies until then. There is nothing in Canadian immigration rules to stop this from happening.

 

[rjessome]

I've met several skilled workers who applied and got into Canada, stuck around for a couple of years to obtain a passport and then left to work abroad. They want an easier passport to travel on and plan to go back to Canada to retire, but they will live and work contributing to other countries' economies until then. There is nothing in Canadian immigration rules to stop this from happening.

And anyone could name literally thousands of people who immigrated here and have become business and political leaders, innovators in engineering, science and medicine, etc. It goes both ways but in this case, it errs on the side that benefits Canada. There are also thousands of Canadian born expats who live and work abroad, putting money into other economies. No, there is nothing in Canadian immigration rules to stop this nor should there be. It's called freedom.

 

[Indigo]

Agree! We gotta be careful to not become radical just because we have to wait, and the rules aren't always in our favour. Yes, there is burocracy; no, it is not always fair.

But try immigrating into the country I come from: The Netherlands. It is much harder and in often even impossible. And in lots of cases unfair.

My husband and I like both countries, Canada and The Netherlands, and could imagine living in either. So based on only that we couldn't make a choice. The Netherlands couldn't care less about us wanting to live together and start a family after marriage. I needed to have a tenure contract with a high salary that was consistant every month. But I was self employed person with a fluctuating income. It was clear that my (academically trained) husband wouldn't be allowed in. That, and the fact that my husband had way better career options in Canada, while in my profession I can work anywhere, made us choose Canada.

Bottom line: the wait is sometimes hard, but I know that, compared to immigration policies in The Netherlands, I have nothing to complain about.

 

[BT1975]

And anyone could name literally thousands of people who immigrated here and have become business and political leaders, innovators in engineering, science and medicine, etc. It goes both ways but in this case, it errs on the side that benefits Canada. There are also thousands of Canadian born expats who live and work abroad, putting money into other economies. No, there is nothing in Canadian immigration rules to stop this nor should there be. It's called freedom.

I never said that there aren't many more immigrants who stay and contribute to the Canadian society and economy. I grew up surrounded by immigrants from various countries. My great-grandparents were immigrants.

Yes, there are Canadian born people living and working abroad putting money into other economies. I've been one of those. I fell in love with a foreigner. My husband brought me to his country and I worked there for some years, now I'm bringing him back to my country. (He studied in Canada).

My point is that the government shouldn't over-value skilled worker class applicants over spouse and dependent children class applicants when they have no way of identifying people who only plan to stay for a couple of years to obtain a passport and then leave again. People with family ties to Canada may be more reliable in the end, because they have a variety of motivations to stay in Canada beyond a passport.

I'd like to think that I'm not anti-freedom, but it is my opinion that people who apply to Canada with the intention to just to get a passport and leave are taking up valuable space in the Canadian immigration system, especially if quotas are applied. Those places could be better used for those who actually want to make Canada their home.

 

[scarycemetery]

So, just because I'm a sponsored spouse, my qualifications to work aren't counted as a contribution to the economy at all? And therefore, I'm surplus to requirements? So, instead you'll approve more skilled workers who will bring their unqualified spouses and children instead? I'm sorry, Mr. Kenney, as an accountant I don't get the net benefit from your calculations. As a sponsored spouse, I'm just ticked off at being treated like a red-headed stepchild.

Exactly. There are plenty of immigrated spouses/partners/children that can give way more to the economy than a skilled worked. Just because someone applied under the family class doesn't mean he won't contribute to the working class. This is ridiculous and a very bad decision. Like another user posted here...what will the new rules be to refuse the family class? I would like that to be answered by Mr. Kenney.

 

[rjessome]

I never said that there aren't many more immigrants who stay and contribute to the Canadian society and economy. I grew up surrounded by immigrants from various countries. My great-grandparents were immigrants.

Yes, there are Canadian born people living and working abroad putting money into other economies. I've been one of those. I fell in love with a foreigner. My husband brought me to his country and I worked there for some years, now I'm bringing him back to my country. (He studied in Canada).

My point is that the government shouldn't over-value skilled worker class applicants over spouse and dependent children class applicants when they have no way of identifying people who only plan to stay for a couple of years to obtain a passport and then leave again. People with family ties to Canada may be more reliable in the end, because they have a variety of motivations to stay in Canada beyond a passport.

I'd like to think that I'm not anti-freedom, but it is my opinion that people who apply to Canada with the intention to just to get a passport and leave are taking up valuable space in the Canadian immigration system, especially if quotas are applied. Those places could be better used for those who actually want to make Canada their home.

In Canada, we are ALL immigrants. I get your point but how can you know the "intention" of someone? For sure some people apply, wait 2 to 3 years, get approved, come here, work for at least 3 or 4 years and then apply for citizenship, wait for another 1 to 2 years, get it and then leave. Those are most probably in the minority but I don't have the stats. Besides that, how could you possible know what a person's intentions are at the beginning of that process, almost 10 years earlier?

But I don't disagree that the priority should be left with spouses and children. I 100% agree. And other than that news article, I haven't seen any changes yet that are affecting the numbers so far. However, I have seen the numbers when it comes to people who will retire in the next 10 to 20 years and it is scary. A government is a business that has to plan for the future to maintain the standard of living we want to have. That means money and means ensuring there are enough educated and skilled people to pump tax dollars into the economy.

Economic prosperity vs. matters of the heart. Voters care more about economics and that's who the government will cater to because that's who they answer to.