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Knight_Crusader said:
hi Noon, do you have any data on how many pre-2008's have applied in MIs, thus paying fees multiple times. I have hardly read about 2-3 of them on this forum ! if they did, they would be in Canada and not part of any litigation !

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/evaluation/min-instruct/appendixG.asp

According to the data in the table provided in this link overall reduction of backlog is 50% in 2011 ie, in 2008 it was 640813 and it reduced to 319292 in 2011. If this reduction is due to actual processing of backlog then why applicants from 2004 is waiting? What happened was 50% of people applied again in new MIs dreaming speedy processing and withdrew their pre feb applications. Then what happened?
see this data:
http://www.data.gc.ca/default.asp?lang=En&formid=427337D0-7C36-4FED-8428-C6A63F8C19B3&xml=F36C86A9-85F5-454E-835A-5C534A9E942E&resource=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cic.gc.ca%2Fopendata-donneesouvertes%2Fdata%2F000001-eng.xls&formid=427337D0-7C36-4FED-8428-C6A63F8C19B3

See the approval rate . For C-50 cases(post feb 2008 cases) the approval rate is only 50% where as for pre feb cases (pre C-50 cases)the approval rate was 70%.

Now my question . Who made more money from poor applicants? Lawyers or CIC?
I hope now you understood what lead to this litigation.
 
noon said:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/evaluation/min-instruct/appendixG.asp

According to the data in the table provided in this link overall reduction of backlog is 50% in 2011 ie, in 2008 it was 640813 and it reduced to 319292 in 2011. If this reduction is due to actual processing of backlog then why applicants from 2004 is waiting? What happened was 50% of people applied again in new MIs dreaming speedy processing and withdrew their pre feb applications. Then what happened?
see this data:
http://www.data.gc.ca/default.asp?lang=En&formid=427337D0-7C36-4FED-8428-C6A63F8C19B3&xml=F36C86A9-85F5-454E-835A-5C534A9E942E&resource=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cic.gc.ca%2Fopendata-donneesouvertes%2Fdata%2F000001-eng.xls&formid=427337D0-7C36-4FED-8428-C6A63F8C19B3

See the approval rate . For C-50 cases(post feb 2008 cases) the approval rate is only 50% where as for pre feb cases (pre C-50 cases)the approval rate was 70%.

Now my question . Who made more money from poor applicants? Lawyers or CIC?
I hope now you understood what lead to this litigation.

I think you forgot one thing, to apply in new MIs there is no need to withdraw pre C-50 application, two parallel applications can be run simultaneously. later if one application get finalized other can be withdrawn.

thus CIC consumes one processing fees other get refunded.
 
canlove said:
I think you forgot one thing, to apply in new MIs they dont need to withdraw pre C-50 application, two parallel applications can be run simultaneously. later if one application get finalized other can be withdrawn.

thus CIC consumes one processing fees other get refunded.

That depends on how much an applicant has faith in CIC. Those who have greater faith withdrew their earlier applications after their newer ones got in process status in ecase. Those who were suspicious about CIC's promises have 1 ,2 or 3 applications in CIC data base. When one application nears finalisation other application may get reviewed by visa officer and refund will be refused. You can also see that even after 1 years passed after backlog elimination law CIC is not releasing refund money of backloggers. So who is eating poor applicants money more? Lawyers or CIC.
 
noon said:
That depends on how much an applicant has faith in CIC. Those who have greater faith withdrew their earlier applications after their newer ones got in process status in ecase. Those who were suspicious about CIC's promises have 1 ,2 or 3 applications in CIC data base. When one application nears finalisation other application may get reviewed by visa officer and refund will be refused. You can also see that even after 1 years passed after backlog elimination law CIC is not releasing refund money of backloggers. So who is eating poor applicants money more? Lawyers or CIC.

Sir

Noon is right , CIC invited almost all applicants to re-apply in new stream
 
tuyen said:
Your fees for your first application will be fully refunded, so you can put that whole amount towards the new application. And you're right - it's a risk because there are no guarantees, but you have to decide if the risk versus potential rewards are worth the cost. If I were in your position, I would definitely reapply...especially if you're in a good NOC.

I think one can reapply even if he is part of the litigation. One egg in two baskets......lol.
 
Halfmoon said:
(that's right we are currently citizens of Canada and you are not)

Your statistics on the left hand pane shows otherwise (“Med's Done....: 27-01-2012”). Somewhere you must be lying.
 
zolter said:
Your statistics on the left hand pane shows otherwise (“Med's Done....: 27-01-2012”). Somewhere you must be lying.

She's a Canadian citizen who is sponsoring someone in the Family Class. The statistics in her profile are for the applicant, not for her. There's no lying involved.
 
More speculation than reality.. I guess this forum should be used for updating any info on Pre 2008 instead of accusing and complaining. I guess most of us are on the same boat and should be giving out valuable inputs. If there is no info to share please do not post your complaints and agony. You just make a mockery of yourself.. kindly post messages if you have received any letter from CIC or any update on the website/ verdict. I don’t blame people who speak out harsh coz if you go back to the thread you will see people are cribbing. Let’s all stop cribbing and just wait for some results. Cribbing doesn’t help you or anyone on the forum. Let’s not take our frustration and just write anything for the sake of posting. Let this forum be a matured talks and suggestions. Just an request I am sure I might get bullied by those who are still cribbing about their problems. Understand one thing whoever is in this forum or majority are having the same problem as you!!!
 
tuyen said:
She's a Canadian citizen who is sponsoring someone in the Family Class. The statistics in her profile are for the applicant, not for her. There's no lying involved.

ok
 
joe07 said:
More speculation than reality.. I guess this forum should be used for updating any info on Pre 2008 instead of accusing and complaining. I guess most of us are on the same boat and should be giving out valuable inputs. If there is no info to share please do not post your complaints and agony. You just make a mockery of yourself.. kindly post messages if you have received any letter from CIC or any update on the website/ verdict. I don't blame people who speak out harsh coz if you go back to the thread you will see people are cribbing. Let's all stop cribbing and just wait for some results. Cribbing doesn't help you or anyone on the forum. Let's not take our frustration and just write anything for the sake of posting. Let this forum be a matured talks and suggestions. Just an request I am sure I might get bullied by those who are still cribbing about their problems. Understand one thing whoever is in this forum or majority are having the same problem as you!!!

Yes, joe 07, you are right.
I too request please don't fight.
Just feel the plight and write just right.
This will help us to board the Canada flight.
Am I right ?
 
Dhamak said:
Yes, joe 07, you are right.
I too request please don't fight.
Just feel the plight and write just right.
This will help us to board the Canada flight.
Am I right ?

:)
 
Dhamak said:
Yes, joe 07, you are right.
I too request please don't fight.
Just feel the plight and write just right.
This will help us to board the Canada flight.
Am I right ?

wow. ;D
 
Dhamak said:
Yes, joe 07, you are right.
I too request please don't fight.
Just feel the plight and write just right.
This will help us to board the Canada flight.
Am I right ?

Is there a NOC for poets? If not, there should be.
 
Thought will share an article..

Under the changes to the federal skilled-worker program, nearly 280,000 people who applied before Feb. 27, 2008, will have their applications removed from the pool. In turn, they’ll receive a refund for their fees and will have to reapply under the new guidelines.

Those guidelines include a requirement to have either experience in one of 29 occupations listed by the federal government as being in high demand or a job offer in Canada.

The new system also envisions processing applicants more quickly if they’re young, highly skilled, and have the ability to speak English or French. In addition, it involves developing a separate stream for in-demand tradespeople and business investors.[/color]

As for the remaining immigrants who don’t meet the new guidelines, a pilot program will allow provinces and territories to accept an additional 1,500 people a year from the current backlog of applicants.

http://www.lawtimesnews.com/201204169037/Headline-News/Immigration-lawyers-reeling
 
This is an old article. looks fare to me on PNP for backloggers :) if the Govt looks at this possiable option
http://www.bellissimolawgroup.com/about-bellissimo-law-group/bellissimo-law-group-breaking-news