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wounderful

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3111
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
26-06-2005
AOR Received.
17-07-2005
IELTS Request
original sent with application
File Transfer...
30-09-2010
Intresting to note that in 2010 all files pending for processing in Islamabad - Pakistan were transfered to London-UK office, My question to CIC is that bring any results ? or that make it more complicating e.g. Requesting PP1 and PP2 that takes another three months, or medical first goes to Delhi Office than to UK. Make fun or what ?

After five year I received a letter if I am still intrested to proceed with application (if yes) do not reply. another fun with us.

We keep us informed with automatic reply that please wait for your turn which in fact not turn out.

In Simple they do not know what to do therefore they just confused and sat on our files (chair) and processed others.
 

hopeful4

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10-3-2010
AOR Received.
18-1-2008
IELTS Request
10-3-2010
File Transfer...
17-5-2012
Med's Request
18-3-2013
Med's Done....
21-3-2013
Passport Req..
16-4-2013
VISA ISSUED...
26-4-2013
LANDED..........
June-July 2013
Warmest these statistics make me really sad because I just found out that my application is one of the only 6 pre 2008 Berlin applications!!
I am so unlucky that Berlin actually finalized 99% of the pre 2008 applications,,,and yet mine is among the 1% nonfinalized applications!!
 

warmest

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Oct 11, 2012
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04 Jun 2005
IELTS Request
Submitted in Jul 2005
hopeful4 said:
Warmest these statistics make me really sad because I just found out that my application is one of the only 6 pre 2008 Berlin applications!!
I am so unlucky that Berlin actually finalized 99% of the pre 2008 applications,,,and yet mine is among the 1% nonfinalized applications!!
Oh! That is really sad to know. You have just been left out. A terrible situation actually. I can now understand your frustration. :(

The statistics that I have presented was obtained from www.data.gc.ca and hence it is reliable. No doubt about it.

Never mind, at last, Justice Barnes's decision will favour you for having waited this long. Pray for it. Don't lose hope after coming this long. You are just there. Just one more hurdle to cross. Then you will be through. I am sure you will make it. Be positive. You already have a lot of 'hope' and I can see that in your name itself ('hopeful4'). Continue to be hopeful. ;D

"No matter how dark the moment, love and hope are always possible." -- George Chakiris

"While there's life, there's hope." -- Marcus Tullius Cicero
 

hopefulever

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Nov 2008
Dear warmest, In your terms if Justice favours litigation 0n 30th then when will visa be issued? One more worry- can justice bernes say no to litigation or delay it to next year.?
 

warmest

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Doc's Request.
Submitted along with application
AOR Received.
04 Jun 2005
IELTS Request
Submitted in Jul 2005
hopefulever said:
Dear warmest, In your terms if Justice favours litigation 0n 30th then when will visa be issued? One more worry- can justice bernes say no to litigation or delay it to next year.?
Dear hopefulever,

Why waiting till 30 November 2012? It can even be earlier, may be on 23 November 2012 or even much earlier. Who knows, except Justice Barnes. :)

On a favourable judgement, the visas should be issued within 4 or 6 months for pre-14 June 2012 litigants and within 1 year for post-14 June 2012 litigants. This is my guess.

Regarding your worry, yes, it is also possible. The judge can either grant or dismiss the plea or postpone ruling on the motion to next year. Anything is possible. Who knows again, except Justice Barnes. :(

We, as an affected party, can only pray and hope for a favourable ruling. What else can we do? It is not a thing that can be bought or taken away from some one, as a matter of right. Hope you understand. :)
 

hopeful4

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28-9-2007
Doc's Request.
10-3-2010
AOR Received.
18-1-2008
IELTS Request
10-3-2010
File Transfer...
17-5-2012
Med's Request
18-3-2013
Med's Done....
21-3-2013
Passport Req..
16-4-2013
VISA ISSUED...
26-4-2013
LANDED..........
June-July 2013
I hate the situation where all we can do is speculating over and over,,,with no sign of any update
 

hopeful4

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4012
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-9-2007
Doc's Request.
10-3-2010
AOR Received.
18-1-2008
IELTS Request
10-3-2010
File Transfer...
17-5-2012
Med's Request
18-3-2013
Med's Done....
21-3-2013
Passport Req..
16-4-2013
VISA ISSUED...
26-4-2013
LANDED..........
June-July 2013
warmest said:
Oh! That is really sad to know. You have just been left out. A terrible situation actually. I can now understand your frustration. :(

The statistics that I have presented was obtained from www.data.gc.ca and hence it is reliable. No doubt about it.

Never mind, at last, Justice Barnes's decision will favour you for having waited this long. Pray for it. Don't lose hope after coming this long. You are just there. Just one more hurdle to cross. Then you will be through. I am sure you will make it. Be positive. You already have a lot of 'hope' and I can see that in your name itself ('hopeful4'). Continue to be hopeful. ;D

"No matter how dark the moment, love and hope are always possible." -- George Chakiris

"While there's life, there's hope." -- Marcus Tullius Cicero

Thanks a lot warmest for your kind words. A great encouragement for me
 

hopefulever

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It will be very kind of his majesty ,Justice Bernes if he deliver his judgement before 30th of this month. But It is highly doubtful that he will do. Certainly he is defending cic without caring for legitimate justice to thousands of backloggers.
 

jevan

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hopefulever said:
It will be very kind of his majesty ,Justice Bernes if he deliver his judgement before 30th of this month. But It is highly doubtful that he will do. Certainly he is defending cic without caring for legitimate justice to thousands of backloggers.
Dear Friends,
Today i got my caips notes...everything is like my previous notes just a new entry is written about my case in federal court.
My ex Bfd was PPS ON 29-6-2012 AND as per new caips my Bfd is PPS ON 15-11-2012.
Except age marks everything is as O.
Interesting and Shocked that there is not a single word that my file has been closed due to operational Law.
Experts are requested to comments plzzzz.
Best Regards.
Jevan.
 

hopeful4

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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-9-2007
Doc's Request.
10-3-2010
AOR Received.
18-1-2008
IELTS Request
10-3-2010
File Transfer...
17-5-2012
Med's Request
18-3-2013
Med's Done....
21-3-2013
Passport Req..
16-4-2013
VISA ISSUED...
26-4-2013
LANDED..........
June-July 2013
jevan said:
Dear Friends,
Today i got my caips notes...everything is like my previous notes just a new entry is written about my case in federal court.
My ex Bfd was PPS ON 29-6-2012 AND as per new caips my Bfd is PPS ON 15-11-2012.
Except age marks everything is as O.
Interesting and Shocked that there is not a single word that my file has been closed due to operational Law.
Experts are requested to comments plzzzz.
Best Regards.
Jevan.
Soryy to say that your application will be closed. The fact that there is any note about this, is only perhaps due to the fact that you have not contacted your VO with a direct question concerning the status of your file. In the later case an officer would have added the note after checking your file. BUt since you made no inquiry lately,your file was not opened even for adding the note.
 

jevan

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hopeful4 said:
Soryy to say that your application will be closed. The fact that there is any note about this, is only perhaps due to the fact that you have not contacted your VO with a direct question concerning the status of your file. In the later case an officer would have added the note after checking your file. BUt since you made no inquiry lately,your file was not opened even for adding the note.
@hopeful4,
brother i do contacted them in sept/oct2012 to chc london and got their reply that due to operational law ur file is closed,to confirm whether they had mentioned in my latest caips or not i ordered caips in oct28 and surprisingly knew that no line is mentioned about the closing of my file in my caips.
 

hopeful4

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4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-9-2007
Doc's Request.
10-3-2010
AOR Received.
18-1-2008
IELTS Request
10-3-2010
File Transfer...
17-5-2012
Med's Request
18-3-2013
Med's Done....
21-3-2013
Passport Req..
16-4-2013
VISA ISSUED...
26-4-2013
LANDED..........
June-July 2013
jevan said:
@ hopeful4,
brother i do contacted them in sept/oct2012 to chc london and got their reply that due to operational law ur file is closed,to confirm whether they had mentioned in my latest caips or not i ordered caips in oct28 and surprisingly knew that no line is mentioned about the closing of my file in my caips.
THEN the missing line should simply be a mistake sinc they confirmed to you your application will be closed.
It is not uncommon that caips notes include mistakes
 

avijitsg

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Sep 23, 2012
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I have got the following record from IMM-8747-12:
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2012-11-14
Toronto 14-NOV-2012 BEFORE The Honourable Mr. Justice Barnes Language: E Before the Court: Case Management Conference Result of Hearing: 1. court files Imm-5365-12, Imm-8669-12, Imm-8302-12 are to perfect the matters by completing the remaining steps: Application Record due on November 30/12 and R's memorandum of argument due on Dec 7/12 2. counsel for the parties are to mutually arrange an agreement to provide CAPS notes for the test files. 3. Court will grant leave for Judicial Review and schedule the matters for January 14, 15 and 16, 2013 at Toronto. The order will set out the following steps i) the tribunal record to be determined ii) applicants further affidavits due by Dec 7/12 iii) resondents further affidavits due by Dec 14/12 iv) any cross- examinations to be completed by Dec 21/12 v) Applicants further memo of argument due Dec 28/12 vi) respondents further memo of argument due Jan 7/13 vii) transcripts of cross-examinations due Jan 7/13. 4. the court directions the respondent is not required to file Notices of Appearance. 5. The court directs the tribunal file number in court file Imm-8747-12 shall be corrected to B052037565, held in Court Senior Usher: Anne Street Duration per day: 14-NOV-2012 from 04:15 to 06:00 Courtroom : Conference Room No. 7-39 - Toronto Court Registrar: Mary Sansone Total Duration: 2h Appearances: Lorne Waldman 416 482-6501 representing Applicant Mario Bellissimo 416 787-6505 representing Applicant Matthew Jeffery 416 944-3267 representing Applicant Lawrence Wong 604 739-0118 representing Applicant Rocco Galati 416 536-7811 representing Applicant Robert Blanshay 416 413-4955 representing Applicant Mary Lam 416 383-0266 representing Applicant Wennie Lee 416 321-0100 representing Applicant Keith Reimer 604 666-2639 representing Respondent Martin Anderson 416 952-2856 representing Respondent Paul Evraire 416 973-4006 representing Respondent Jocelyn Espejo-Clarke 416 973-5199 representing Respondent Charles Jubenville 416 952-2938 representing Respondent Comments: Heard together with Imm-5635-12, Imm-4866-12, Imm-5365-12, Imm-6165-12 Imm-8669-12, Imm-8302-12, Imm-3725-12. Minutes of Hearing entered in Vol. 274 page(s) 46 - 50 Abstract of Hearing placed on file

2012-11-16
Affidavit of BALJINDER REHAL contained within a Motion Record on behalf of the respondent sworn on 15-NOV-2012 in opposition to DOC 14 with attached exhibit(s) A-F filed on 16-NOV-2012

2012-11-16
Memorandum of argument contained within a Motion Record on behalf of the respondent filed on 16-NOV-2012

2012-11-16
Motion Record in response to Motion Doc. No. 14 containing the following original document(s): 24 25 Number of copies received: 3 on behalf of Respondent filed on 16-NOV-2012

2012-11-16
Affidavit of GARETH OLAFSON on behalf of the respondent sworn on 15-NOV-2012 confirming service of DOC 26 on the applicant by process server on 15-NOV-2012 filed on 16-NOV-2012
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Please share if you understand anything from above. Thankx
 

hopeful4

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4012
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-9-2007
Doc's Request.
10-3-2010
AOR Received.
18-1-2008
IELTS Request
10-3-2010
File Transfer...
17-5-2012
Med's Request
18-3-2013
Med's Done....
21-3-2013
Passport Req..
16-4-2013
VISA ISSUED...
26-4-2013
LANDED..........
June-July 2013
THis is only the future timeline of the lawsuit,,,how the procedures will go on. I Understood that the caips notes for all lead files will be requested . Probably the other points are only about the documents that the lawyers should prepare and present in the above dates.
 

hopefulever

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Nov 2008
My Relative circle have informed dat Judgement for litigation will come out just before Xmas leave. But the news is authentic or not , is not sure.