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st-cnncomes said:
This story cannot be used as a yardstick to determing whether the canadian connection is suffecient or insuffecient. I hope the lawyers are hitting this point. What I've mentioned earlier ie, Applying under the rules to CIC, passing the points system, waiting at the behest of CIC, and having relatives who are canadian citizens are more than sufficient grounds to show our canadian connections, actually the onus to prove otherwise is not on us but on CIC.

If the example in the article was not sufficient to fall under the charter, then believe me when I say that the CIC lawsuit is even MORE unlikely to fall under the charter.

The only thing the CIC lawsuit has is people who sent in an application. That's it - nothing more. And the two men in the article were already LIVING in Canada for several years - and the supreme court clearly said that they were not entitled to charter rights and protections. So if you can't take that example and try to weigh it against the CIC lawsuit, then you're being obtuse on purpose, or you're living in a world of complete denial.
 
st-cnncomes said:
Perfect example, i too thought of Vodafone. This case is quite similar.

How is that even REMOTELY similar? It's a completely different case, with a completely different set of parameters and circumstances.

Vodafone is a company that's already operating INSIDE India. They've been doing business there for YEARS.

The CIC litigants, meanwhile, have absolutely no connection to Canada other than an application that they sent to CIC.

It's absolutely staggering that you would even try to draw comparisons between those cases. ::)
 
tuyen said:
How is that even REMOTELY similar? It's a completely different case, with a completely different set of parameters and circumstances.

Vodafone is a company that's already operating INSIDE India. They've been doing business there for YEARS.

The CIC litigants, meanwhile, have absolutely no connection to Canada other than an application that they sent to CIC.

It's absolutely staggering that you would even try to draw comparisons between those cases. ::)


Do you want to say that If someone from canada cheats me and I beacuse not being natural born citizen of Canada, cannot take him to Canadian court. If that is the case then out litigation should have got dismissed on the very first date. On the other hand the judge is even considering the arguments quoted from Canadian Charter for Rights.
 
st-cnncomes said:
Perfect example, i too thought of Vodafone. This case is quite similar. Let the FC of Canada rule against the applicants and then the actual fun will start. I'm sure CIC is aware of the vodafone case, and also the Ittalian shooting case in kerala.

Perfect Example quoted by you. The italian marines killed indian fisherman in Indian Waters, which Italian government denies by calling the area as international waters not falling within maritime boundaries of india.Italian marines are fighting out this case in indian courts.

+1
 
Jatt_warrior said:
Do you want to say that If someone from canada cheats me and I beacuse not being natural born citizen of Canada, cannot take him to Canadian court.

Such a case would have absolutely nothing to do with the Canadian constitution. I already said - in an earlier post - that BUSINESS dealings can certainly be taken to court, but don't expect to win your case by claiming Canadian charter protections.


Jatt_warrior said:
If that is the case then out litigation should have got dismissed on the very first date. On the other hand the judge is even considering the arguments quoted from Canadian Charter for Rights.

The case wasn't based SOLELY on Canadian charter arguments. That was one aspect of it, which - rest assured - will be thrown out. As for what the judge is considering, you have no way of knowing. He could just as easily have asked the lawyers to give him their best arguments regarding the charter because he wanted to have something which could then be refuted and used as a basis for dismissing the case.
 
tuyen said:
How is that even REMOTELY similar? It's a completely different case, with a completely different set of parameters and circumstances.

Vodafone is a company that's already operating INSIDE India. They've been doing business there for YEARS.

The CIC litigants, meanwhile, have absolutely no connection to Canada other than an application that they sent to CIC.

It's absolutely staggering that you would even try to draw comparisons between those cases. ::)
very true
 
joe07 said:
Anyone in this forum who is pre 2008 has got any positive response from CIC.. any medical update or documents to be submitted? , after june 2012

Applied Nov 2007, received January 2008, med's requested June 2012 but 2 weeks later they said to disregard any previous instructions:

Ref Nov 2007

Dear applicant,

This is to advise that due to changes to Canadian law (The Budget Implementation Act, known as Bill C-38, which received Royal Assent on June 29, 2012); we must cease processing of ALL applications made under the Federal Skilled Worker (FSW) program before February 27, 2008, where a decision has not been made by an Immigration Officer based on FSW program selection criteria before March 29, 2012.

Your application is part of this decision.

If you have been asked to provide an updated application please disregard those instructions. Citizenship & Immigration Canada will communicate with you in due course to provide further information on refunding the application fee.
 
anthello said:
Applied Nov 2007, received January 2008, med's requested June 2012 but 2 weeks later they said to disregard any previous instructions:
whats ur status now
 
Guys look at anthello post. he had received the medical request and now they have actually kept it on hold or ... this is disturbing for someone who got an expectation after the medicals and they pulled the cord. sorry to hear this bro.. seriously doesn't look good at all
 
Friends CIC LVO send me my whole original documents through courier which i send them when i applied for immigration in 2005 they also send me a letter stated to update new form IMM 0008 (background declaration) and a new bank draft for my younger daughter. and I ordered my Caip notes in which mentioned that my medicals issued on 08-08-2012 but i didnt get them until now and my file forward to QRE on 5-02-2013. I dont understand that what is going wrong is our files terminated or whats going on CIC side. God knows better whats is going on..... any senior can comment on the current situation?
 
umerrais79 said:
Friends CIC LVO send me my whole original documents through courier which i send them when i applied for immigration in 2005 they also send me a letter stated to update new form IMM 0008 (background declaration) and a new bank draft for my younger daughter. and I ordered my Caip notes in which mentioned that my medicals issued on 08-08-2012 but i didnt get them until now and my file forward to QRE on 5-02-2013. I dont understand that what is going wrong is our files terminated or whats going on CIC side. God knows better whats is going on..... any senior can comment on the current situation?

Congrats!!!!!!! Don`t worry............. they started processing your file. Send asked form IMM 0008 and pay the amount.. also be ready to fly to Canada within this summer.
Hope all the best. For your information usually all the original documents usually send with MR or PPR but for you they sent earlier even. Please keep us updated.
 
umerrais79 said:
Friends CIC LVO send me my whole original documents through courier which i send them when i applied for immigration in 2005 they also send me a letter stated to update new form IMM 0008 (background declaration) and a new bank draft for my younger daughter. and I ordered my Caip notes in which mentioned that my medicals issued on 08-08-2012 but i didnt get them until now and my file forward to QRE on 5-02-2013. I dont understand that what is going wrong is our files terminated or whats going on CIC side. God knows better whats is going on..... any senior can comment on the current situation?

In all situation it is win win for you so do not worry and ask your MR reffering you're CAIPS notes date, and directly with case specIfic enquiry.
 
Badal789 said:
Congrats!!!!!!! Don`t worry............. they started processing your file. Send asked form IMM 0008 and pay the amount.. also be ready to fly to Canada within this summer.
Hope all the best. For your information usually all the original documents usually send with MR or PPR but for you they sent earlier even. Please keep us updated.

I think they smell their defeat. ;D ;)
 
umerrais79 said:
Friends CIC LVO send me my whole original documents through courier which i send them when i applied for immigration in 2005 they also send me a letter stated to update new form IMM 0008 (background declaration) and a new bank draft for my younger daughter. and I ordered my Caip notes in which mentioned that my medicals issued on 08-08-2012 but i didnt get them until now and my file forward to QRE on 5-02-2013. I dont understand that what is going wrong is our files terminated or whats going on CIC side. God knows better whats is going on..... any senior can comment on the current situation?
This is a great contradiction! how come they send you the original documents and at the same time ask for more info!!
If they sent you your documents they should have included the refund cheque as well,,,,,,so strange