Federal Skilled Worker Class Action Lawsuit

[joe07]

I received following email today from the Canadian embassy in London

I believe/assume they are now starting to inform people affected by the law.

whats does your current status shows? Blank or error message ?
I thought CIC would communicate any decision made on pre 2008 in writing and not email.

 

[can88da]

I had sent an enquiry email to London office last year (Dec 2012) asking why it was taking so long with my application. At that time my application was In-Process. I think they may have now replied to my enquiry as they have mentioned on their website that they will not answer queries related to time duration unless it has crossed the average processing time mentioned on their website.

My ecas went from In Process to Decision Made and now I don't see my details on the website.

Jan 25 is a day away and I don't know what type of decision he will take. Will it be a bold decision? Will his decision include people/cases like me who have been deleted?

I have not had any good news since the start of this year so I am really hoping for some thing that will cheer me up as I have been praying for Canadian citizenship nearly every day for the past 5 years.

If this immigration does not happen then I don't know what I will do.

 

[Sujman]

Dear All
I am also a victim of backlog. Applied in 2008 January and done the medicals in 2012 March. And my e-cas says " Application Received in January 3 2008 and Medical results have been received". Further,I filed a litigation in November 2012. What I like to know all you is, has they made decision in my case, since I have already done my medicals.
Does any body have idea? please explain, much appreciated your opinions
Thanks

You can exactly know your status from your CAIPS. Apply for CAIPS, it will take 1 - 1.5 months time.
I applied to Colombo VO in Dec 2007, did Meds in Jan 2012 and still my case is terminated as per CAIPS. I joined to litigation in Jan 2013.
Please disclose your VO, then an assumption could be made

 

[Sujman]

Do you think they went to all that effort of writing new laws AND having them passed in Canadian parliament just so they could get overturned by some bleeding-heart liberal judge who loves a good sob story and can't wait for a chance to legislate from the bench?

Of course they will appeal if they lose. It's the only thing that's 100% guaranteed in this whole lawsuit.

Do you say that Canadian judges are biased and their judgements reflects the will of political party that they are attached or supporting.
However my perception was Canadian judges are neutral and will issue the judgement mainly reffering to law, legality of issues and within authority of Federal courts. As mentioned on 16th Jan, of course lossing party has chance to appeal which is also a basic leagal pricipal in court system until verdict is given by highest legal authority (Suprem Court) in the system.

 

[noon]

Facts: First day you arrive there wont be follo ka har. There will be only we fools.

please dont waste any more time and money.


I WILL SUGGEST PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY IN CANADA OR HAVE A JOB OPPORTUNITY ARE BEST FOR THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. THEY KNOW THE TRUE REALITY AND THEIR TRUE WORTH.

PLEASE VISIT CANADA BEFORE WASTING ANY MORE MONEY AND TIME.

ravi12,
This is not the question related to Canadian economy. The problem is those who applied under the previous govt .is made to wait while those who applied under Kenneys reign is processed fast.While there is only 280000 people eliminated , under kenneys reign he had invited and processed and landed equal amount of people. Fraud with AEO is also high . Kenney induces policies without conducting much studies and public consultations. The judge mentioned, while Newzealand conducted 4 months public consultations to abolish backlog, Kenney did it without no consulatation.

 

[nish2008]

Hi Sujman
You can exactly know your status from your CAIPS. Apply for CAIPS, it will take 1 - 1.5 months time.
I applied to Colombo VO in Dec 2007, did Meds in Jan 2012 and still my case is terminated as per CAIPS. I joined to litigation in Jan 2013.
Please disclose your VO, then an assumption could be made

My VO is Colombo and the SELDEC in my CAIPS is 9 what is this mean?

 

[warmest]

Bradford woman charged with defrauding prospective immigrants

Russell Piffer, Staff Reporter, Published on Monday January 21, 2013

A woman is facing fraud charges after multiple victims allegedly paid for immigration assistance that was never delivered.

Police said a woman claiming to be a consultant at Toronto-based Joan Raymond and Associates allegedly took retainer and application fees from three people who wanted to file immigration claims between 2009 and 2012.

The claims were never completed, leading Citizenship and Immigration Canada to reject the applications.

Joan Raymond, 47, of Bradford, was charged on Monday with three counts of fraud under $5,000 and three counts of disobeying a court order.

Police said they believe there are more victims.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/article/1318248--bradford-woman-charged-with-defrauding-prospective-immigrants

 

[tuyen]

Do you say that Canadian judges are biased and their judgements reflects the will of political party that they are attached or supporting.

No, my comment had nothing to do with judges. What I said was that CIC went to a lot of effort to put this new law into place, and it's a 100% certainty that they anticipated - and planned on - a legal challenge.

However my perception was Canadian judges are neutral and will issue the judgement mainly reffering to law, legality of issues and within authority of Federal courts.

If that was the case, then this lawsuit would've been thrown out on the first day when it got into court, because there was nothing illegal in the law. It was passed by a majority of votes in the Canadian parliament, by politicians who were elected through a democratic process. This wasn't just ONE person acting as a king with unlimited power to create a law. The bill went through all the proper channels before becoming a law, and it had more than enough votes for it to be passed into law.

As for neutrality, you have to remember that judges are people too. They have their own views on social issues and politics, and it's very naive to assume that just because it's a judge from Canada, that he is automatically able to be 100% neutral without his personal feelings and biases entering into his rulings.

If, one day in the future, judges are replaced by machines who look PURELY at the law with no emotion, then yes, you can expect 100% unbiased rulings. But for as long as we have human judges, they will ALWAYS be biased.

 

[thephilanthropist]

Hello Mr. Hon. Tuyen

First of all, I am well aware of the thoughts that are posted by you in your posting.

As you might have seen that I never confronted any body and I will not in future by writing in this forum.

Please don't spoil the image of Canada and their judicial system by using the word "biased", "these judges", etc.

Anyway every person has a right to express their feelings and thoughts but not by confronting but by helping words. Just think if you have similar situation like pre feb 2008 applicant waiting since 2004 in VO like New Delhi and then after 8 long years said now sorry for applying words.

If you are at movie and gets houseful board when your turn came then too you will try by requesting the ticket windows if any tickets is left. Then this is the immigration application where people wish for new life. I think that this example will make your mind clear.

Do you know the same was attempted by New Zealand years back and New Zealand court has quashed the order of legislating the backlog.

Do you know if foreign trained doctors are out from leading European countries then there Health system will collapse. I am not writing just because I am a super specialist in Nephrology, but I have treated many patients when they came to India for visiting there relatives and our line to treatment and protocol are same as that of US UK and major developed countries and even testimonials from the patients says that.

To brief myself, I am a Nephrologist, practicing in India. Visited many countries in world for conference won the 8 gold medals till date at various levels. Do you think that still I am not having talent ?
Just a bottom line, please don't take the sadistic pleasure even if you are jobless.

 

[zolter]

Yes, I guess people here don't know that once any gora makes up his mind no one in this world can change it, they are wasting money and time with lawyers who r doing their business,

One thing I will tell you Guys for sure an please mark my words,

OUR cases are DELETED and once you reach canada after so much struggle you will realize when the person says we dont need you means you have to get ur ass rugged in this -30 degree weather to earn a living.

-30 degree mein if a person stands for 1 min the bones will start asking you question WHY ALL THIS STRUGGLE???

Car le luga ghar se bhar nahi jauga.

Phele din badi job lag jayegi. WHEN they say we dont need you there is a reason. "BIG REASON"

Rent, Taxes and BILLS bus isme hi jindagi jayegi.

To buy a house you need to create Credit history 3 years toh gone in this.


"Apne desi log hi sochte hai kuu marne ajate hai ye desi idar."

Please don't take basic things for granted what you have in india.

weather :-30 degree celsius in most parts of canada Right now.

Facts: First day you arrive there wont be follo ka har. There will be only we fools.

please dont waste any more time and money.


I WILL SUGGEST PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY IN CANADA OR HAVE A JOB OPPORTUNITY ARE BEST FOR THE IMMIGRATION SYSTEM. THEY KNOW THE TRUE REALITY AND THEIR TRUE WORTH.

PLEASE VISIT CANADA BEFORE WASTING ANY MORE MONEY AND TIME.

Sour Grapes

 

[joe07]

Sour Grapes

ravi12 if u knew this in the first place why did u apply? If u haven't applied then ur waiting ur time in this forum. This is a forum for the pre 2008. Canada had the same tax/climate was even worse. U going to buy a house the moment u enter Canada. Give me a break. Life is hard but quality of life is better.
I am now in india was in London for 4 years plus and 1.5 years in USA. So I know what life is in that part of the world. If u have anything to share important in the forum please do. If not ur waisting ur time and people in the forum.

 

[msaeed]

Hello Mr. Hon. Tuyen

First of all, I am well aware of the thoughts that are posted by you in your posting.

As you might have seen that I never confronted any body and I will not in future by writing in this forum.

Please don't spoil the image of Canada and their judicial system by using the word "biased", "these judges", etc.

Anyway every person has a right to express their feelings and thoughts but not by confronting but by helping words. Just think if you have similar situation like pre feb 2008 applicant waiting since 2004 in VO like New Delhi and then after 8 long years said now sorry for applying words.

If you are at movie and gets houseful board when your turn came then too you will try by requesting the ticket windows if any tickets is left. Then this is the immigration application where people wish for new life. I think that this example will make your mind clear.

Do you know the same was attempted by New Zealand years back and New Zealand court has quashed the order of legislating the backlog.

Do you know if foreign trained doctors are out from leading European countries then there Health system will collapse. I am not writing just because I am a super specialist in Nephrology, but I have treated many patients when they came to India for visiting there relatives and our line to treatment and protocol are same as that of US UK and major developed countries and even testimonials from the patients says that.

To brief myself, I am a Nephrologist, practicing in India. Visited many countries in world for conference won the 8 gold medals till date at various levels. Do you think that still I am not having talent ?
Just a bottom line, please don't take the sadistic pleasure even if you are jobless.

Sir

Excellent

 

[warmest]

Hello Mr. Hon. Tuyen

First of all, I am well aware of the thoughts that are posted by you in your posting.

As you might have seen that I never confronted any body and I will not in future by writing in this forum.

Please don't spoil the image of Canada and their judicial system by using the word "biased", "these judges", etc.

Anyway every person has a right to express their feelings and thoughts but not by confronting but by helping words. Just think if you have similar situation like pre feb 2008 applicant waiting since 2004 in VO like New Delhi and then after 8 long years said now sorry for applying words.

If you are at movie and gets houseful board when your turn came then too you will try by requesting the ticket windows if any tickets is left. Then this is the immigration application where people wish for new life. I think that this example will make your mind clear.

Do you know the same was attempted by New Zealand years back and New Zealand court has quashed the order of legislating the backlog.

Do you know if foreign trained doctors are out from leading European countries then there Health system will collapse. I am not writing just because I am a super specialist in Nephrology, but I have treated many patients when they came to India for visiting there relatives and our line to treatment and protocol are same as that of US UK and major developed countries and even testimonials from the patients says that.

To brief myself, I am a Nephrologist, practicing in India. Visited many countries in world for conference won the 8 gold medals till date at various levels. Do you think that still I am not having talent ?
Just a bottom line, please don't take the sadistic pleasure even if you are jobless.

LOL

 

[thephilanthropist]

Dear all members

Please remember the quote from Bill Gates "If you are born poor its not your mistake, but if you die poor certainly its your mistake"

 

[tuyen]

Please don't spoil the image of Canada and their judicial system by using the word "biased", "these judges", etc.

So because one person expresses his opinion, then the WHOLE image of Canada will be spoiled, right?

And you're a doctor...? That's the level of intelligence that doctors work with these days? :

Just think if you have similar situation like pre feb 2008 applicant waiting since 2004 in VO like New Delhi and then after 8 long years said now sorry for applying words.

I actually HAVE thought about it...many times. And you know what? If I would've put myself into that same situation, then I would have nobody but MYSELF to blame. If my desire to leave my country was so strong, then I would've put in applications to multiple countries at the same time so that I would greatly increase my chances. Nobody forced the applicants to apply ONLY to Canada, and nobody forced them to wait 8 years for their applications to be processed. Nobody locked them into a room and prevented them from doing other things with their lives and pursuing other opportunities at the same time.

Do you know if foreign trained doctors are out from leading European countries then there Health system will collapse.

Europe's health care system is going to collapse anyway - with OR without foreign doctors. It's only a matter of time.

To brief myself, I am a Nephrologist, practicing in India. Visited many countries in world for conference won the 8 gold medals till date at various levels.

Wow...that's amazing. Did you compete in some kind of doctor-olympics?

Do you think that still I am not having talent ?

When did I ever say that you didn't have any talent? Maybe you do, or maybe you don't. I don't know you, so how could I possibly rate your talent level?

Just a bottom line, please don't take the sadistic pleasure even if you are jobless.

As I've said...many...many...many times already - I'm not taking pleasure in anything. I've also stated on multiple occasions that I'm not jobless, but in fact have had my own business for the past 12 years. And you know what? Whenever I needed to hire employees, I was always able to find them quickly and easily, right here in Canada. I never had a need to go looking overseas for workers, and 99.999% of Canadian companies will tell you the same thing. It's an act of complete insanity on the government of Canada's part when they want to bring in tens of thousands of people into the country every year even if they have no arranged employment. That's just a recipe for disaster, especially during an economic downturn where the unemployment rate in Canada has been hovering at 10% for the last 4 years.

The reason I want the lawsuit to be thrown out once and for all is because Canada's economy can NOT absorb another 260,000 people flooding in here looking for jobs when there are ALREADY millions of Canadians who can't find work. This is not a difficult concept to understand. Try to imagine 260,000 new people in Canada who will ALL need to find work, otherwise they'll be depending on the government to feed them and house them. And when that happens, guess who's going to be paying for it. It will be people like me, with my tax dollars. And quite frankly, I don't feel that I should have to support people who were brought into the country against my wishes. I didn't vote for that, I didn't support it, and I don't want to be paying the price for it. Between my corporate taxes, personal income taxes, local municipal taxes, sales taxes, and a myriad of other government fees and taxes, I'm already giving millions of dollars to the government every year, and honestly, I think I'm paying MORE than my fair share. So if somebody wants to bring in 260,000 people into Canada without having any jobs waiting for them, then let somebody ELSE pay for their welfare, because I sure as hell don't want to do it.

In the future, when economic conditions around the world improve, and Canadian companies find themselves in positions of needing to hire foreign workers, then I will have no objections. This is also something that I've stated many times already.