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Fate_vs_Faith said:
CIC having wasted the golden years of thousands of thousands people and destroying their faith in one of the country who is known for its equality and justice (not any more) because of ONE stupid, idiot and filthy person's decision.
totally agree
 

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Fate_vs_Faith said:
not like CIC having wasted the golden years of thousands of thousands people and destroying their faith in one of the country who is known for its equality and justice (not any more) because of ONE stupid, idiot and filthy person's decision.
it is helpful to put things in perspective. there is not one person involved in the decision to shelve or do away with the pre feb 2008 Canadian PR applications. First is there is the Conservative Government leading a policy change in Canadian immigration. Second, there is the Canadian Parliament. Policy changes are, most often, painful for those affected. One important and valid question is the process of changing policies. Some are seen as unfair; others are questioned in court for legal basis. It will further help us if we stay sober and look at our FSW application in nuanced ways. Surely there are many who are emotionally affected by these policy changes. We stay hopeful for the positive outcome of our litigation, even as we prepare ourselves for an adverse outcome. We move on from their and continue to live our lives as meaningfully as we could even if our dreams for new life in Canada are dashed to the ground.
 

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We all understand that any country can change its policy according to the need and demand, however, the true sence will be the new policy should not effect the people or body who applied in light of old one available to them. Thats why during all eight years all policy change does not have any effect on earlier ones.

CIC can not explain the following:

why they have given us age points from the begining whereas we have also provide them (like me) the original IELTS results with the application. Because they were or will have to worked on our files and they should calculate the points of age at the time of filing. Now they must consider this for old applicants and provide us some relief so that we should not lose the points just because of overage.
Second, they should also treat us on priority since they are liable for the delay and should consider our old IELTS.
Thrid, why they gave priority to other applicants of same or even less NOC.
Forth: If our trade fall within new NOC list they should automatically re-start our files according to new policy and see if we can not get the 67 points just because of age.
Fifth: Why MI1, MI2 or MI3 are not considered pre-backlog. and why our files should not considered according to MI1, MI2 or MI3 policy and NOC.

Justice delayed is Justice denied.
 

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CIC has made just one entry in E Cas Status in 8 years I. E. DM. Now wait for another 8 years to be processed\Refund letter. Haa Haa. Shame to cic.
 

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hey guys.. need help.

I have joined the litigation too in August 2012. I just checked my online status and now it shows 'Decision Made' :eek:

I thot the file wont be closed until the litigation cases reach a judgement.
pls let me know what is happening.. confused ???
 

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Website for online is not responding. Hopefully some new decisions are made today in some case. Be in touch for more information.
 

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Here is Tim Leahy's response to those applicants (not his clients) who queried him about their recent 'decision made' status.

So many of you are reporting that your online summary says "decision made" and asking me to say what it means. First, no one retained me to handle their visa application. That question should be addressed to whomever you hired for that purpose. If you chose to go it alone, you should accept the consequence of that decision. Second, it should be obvious that CIC has decided to implement s. 87.4 and close all the files. Because CIC has never bothered to provide applicants with honest information, stating "in process" or "decision made". It should be clear that, as your file certainly is not "in process" (unless you had been sent medical forms), it must be closed. If it is closed, a decision was made to close it -- a decision announced on March 29th, one about which you have known for many, many months.
 

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In his reply Tim always saying Ifs and butts. And increasing date for new clients ever. Be aware. He is running his cheating buissness very cleaverly, you know.
 

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Canada's controversial 2012 changes to immigration and refugee system

Debra Black and Nicholas Keung, Immigration Reporters, Published on Saturday December 29, 2012

Over the past year Ottawa has made some sweeping and controversial changes to the immigration, asylum and refugee system, and the rules involving Canadian citizenship.

In doing so, the federal Conservative government has radically changed the landscape and made it much tougher for many to make Canada their home.

Here is a primer on the most critical changes.

Immigrants
• Immigration Minister Jason Kenney announced he was going to wipe out the federal skilled workers program backlog and establish a new pool of immigrant skilled workers. The announcement triggered a legal challenge to be heard in Federal Court in January 2013.

Known as the Expression of Interest System, the new program will allow employers to choose potential candidates from a ready pool of pre-screened skilled workers. It's similar to a program currently used in New Zealand and Australia.

• Kenney announced a new direction in the federal skilled workers program, opening the door for skilled trades workers and offering permanent residency to electricians, welders, heavy-duty equipment mechanics and pipefitters to help relieve the labour shortage amid a construction boom in places such as Alberta and Ontario, which will host the Pan American Games in 2015.

• Kenney has given himself, in Bill C-43, legislation that is still before Parliament, sweeping powers to bar people from being allowed into Canada for “public policy considerations.”

In the same bill, Ottawa has changed the rules governing deportation of criminals who are permanent residents. If passed, the bill would make it easier for Ottawa to deport an immigrant with permanent resident status who has been sentenced to six months or more for a crime. There would also be no right to an appeal.

At present, the law only allows such action if someone has been sentenced to two years less a day, and there is a right to appeal. The new law, if passed, will effectively impose a “one strike and you're out” rule, according to critics.

• Kenney has tightened up the rules around spousal sponsorship and conditional permanent residence status, triggering criticism from human rights lawyers, refugee groups and women's groups.

Foreigners sponsored to enter Canada as spouses must stay in the relationship for two years before they're granted permanent residence status under the new law.

If they don't, they face deportation. Kenney argues that the new law will crack down on marriage fraud. The caveat: It does not apply to those who are victims of abuse or neglect, Kenney said.

• The minister of immigration announced that Ottawa would be changing the point system used to judge skilled-immigrant applications, emphasizing language skills and professional credentials equivalent to Canada's. Language proficiency will become a more important factor in whether applicants are approved.

Refugees
• Kenney performed radical surgery on Canada's refugee system. He moved to designate specific refugees as “irregular arrivals” — which allows for mandatory arrest and detention for up to a year. The law was prompted by two boatloads of Tamil refugees who in 2009 and 2010 arrived on the shores of British Columbia.

The law calls for officials to detain migrants for investigation. What's more irregular arrivals are banned from applying for permanent resident status, sponsoring family members and acquiring refugee travel documents for five years even if their refugee claims are accepted.

• Ottawa has created a list of safe countries of origin — countries considered capable of providing state protection for their citizens. A total of 27 countries have been named, 25 of them from the European Union. They include: Austria, Croatia, France, Hungary, Italy, Malta, Portugal, Spain and the United Kingdom.

Countries will be designated safe if their combined rejection, withdrawal and abandonment rate of asylum claims exceeds 75 per cent or when the withdrawn and abandoned caseload tops 60 per cent.

Refugees from “safe” countries will have their case fast-tracked through the refugee process, with their claims heard within 30 to 45 days. They will not be able to appeal the decision and will be removed from Canada in a year. All other eligible refugee claimants will receive a hearing within 60 days after their claim is referred to the refugee board.

• In a surprising move to the medical community and refugee advocates, Kenney announced that Ottawa would cut health benefits to refugee claimants. He claimed the move would save Ottawa $100 million over five years and discourage “unfounded” refugees from coming to Canada to seek medical care.

• In another move to protect Canada's borders, Kenney, under the Protecting Canada's Immigration System Act, introduced biometric measures — the collection of fingerprints and photos — from applicants in 29 countries, including Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Burma, Colombia, Democratic Republic of Congo, Haiti, Iran, Jamaica, Jordan, Haiti, Pakistan, Vietnam and Yemen.

This fingerprint information will be sent to the RCMP for storage and will be checked against the fingerprint records of refugee claimants, previous deportees, persons with Canadian criminal records and previous temporary resident applicants before a visa decision is made.

Citizenship
• Prospective Canadian citizens must now provide proof of language proficiency — in English or French — before they can apply for citizenship. The new regulation will affect candidates between the ages of 18 and 54. Immigration officials will return applications of those who do not provide evidence of proficiency.

• Kenney announced in September he would be revoking the citizenship of 3,100 people — mostly from the Persian Gulf States — who had lied about their residency and failed to reside in Canada for three of the four previous years when they applied for citizenship. The announcement came after the creation of an immigration fraud tip line in 2011.

Temporary Foreign Workers
• Rules surrounding temporary foreign workers were radically rewritten. Close to 191,000 temporary foreign workers came to Canada in 2011, 67,000 in Ontario.

• Changes were made to allow employers to pay temporary high-skilled foreign workers up to 15 per cent less than the prevailing local wage. In the case of low-skilled workers, it's 5 per cent less.

• In December, Ottawa eliminated the special parental benefits for foreign migrant workers who contribute an estimated $3.4 million to the country's employment insurance system.

This means 30,000 migrant workers who are employed under the Seasonal Agricultural Workers Program are not eligible to take leave and collect any benefit while caring for newborns or sick children. Migrant workers have never been eligible for full EI benefits but previously they could access special benefits for up to 35 weeks — even if they were outside of Canada.

http://www.thestar.com/news/investigations/immigration/article/1308263--immigration-and-refugee-system-canada-made-controversial-changes-in-2012
 

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warmest said:
Here is Tim Leahy's response to those applicants (not his clients) who queried him about their recent 'decision made' status.

So many of you are reporting that your online summary says "decision made" and asking me to say what it means. First, no one retained me to handle their visa application. That question should be addressed to whomever you hired for that purpose. If you chose to go it alone, you should accept the consequence of that decision. Second, it should be obvious that CIC has decided to implement s. 87.4 and close all the files. Because CIC has never bothered to provide applicants with honest information, stating "in process" or "decision made". It should be clear that, as your file certainly is not "in process" (unless you had been sent medical forms), it must be closed. If it is closed, a decision was made to close it -- a decision announced on March 29th, one about which you have known for many, many months.
There are various grammatical errors in this response.

Maybe Mr. Leahy's secretary has problems writing out sentences that make sense.
 

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Johnny31 said:
There are various grammatical errors in this response.

Maybe Mr. Leahy's secretary has problems writing out sentences that make sense.
no mistakes at all,,,,,I do not find any ,,,it is only that he writes with confidence so it seems as if some sentences are cut of.
I do not believe either that Tim has someone to type massages for him. If Tim has a single talent it would be composing long massages that sound almost like literature. It is thanks to this gift that he has so many clients. I only wish that he was as much gifted in winning his cases!!
By the way Tim does not address the non-letigants only in the above e mail. He address all who approached him with that question ,,,,,he thinks that such question should be addressed to the immigration consultants only. Since he was only appointed to deal with a particular lawsuit, he does not feel that his litigants are entitled to ask him any question concerning their application!
 

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warmest said:
Canada's controversial 2012 changes to immigration and refugee system

Debra Black and Nicholas Keung, Immigration Reporters, Published on Saturday December 29, 2012

Over the past year Ottawa has made some sweeping and controversial changes to the immigration, asylum and refugee system, and the rules involving Canadian citizenship.

In doing so, the federal Conservative government has radically changed the landscape and made it much tougher for many to make Canada their home.

Here is a primer on the most critical changes.

Immigrants
• Immigration Minister Jason Kenney announced he was going to wipe out the federal skilled workers program backlog and establish a new pool of immigrant skilled workers. The announcement triggered a legal challenge to be heard in Federal Court in January 2013.

Known as the Expression of Interest System, the new program will allow employers to choose potential candidates from a ready pool of pre-screened skilled workers. It's similar to a program currently used in New Zealand and Australia.

• Kenney announced a new direction in the federal skilled workers program, opening the door for skilled trades workers and offering permanent residency to electricians, welders, heavy-duty equipment mechanics and pipefitters to help relieve the labour shortage amid a construction boom in places such as Alberta and Ontario, which will host the Pan American Games in 2015.

• Kenney has given himself, in Bill C-43, legislation that is still before Parliament, sweeping powers to bar people from being allowed into Canada for “public policy considerations.”

In the same bill, Ottawa has changed the rules governing deportation of criminals who are permanent residents. If passed, the bill would make it easier for Ottawa to deport an immigrant with permanent resident status who has been sentenced to six months or more for a crime. There would also be no right to an appeal.

At present, the law only allows such action if someone has been sentenced to two years less a day, and there is a right to appeal. The new law, if passed, will effectively impose a “one strike and you're out” rule, according to critics.

• Kenney has tightened up the rules around spousal sponsorship and conditional permanent residence status, triggering criticism from human rights lawyers, refugee groups and women's groups.

Foreigners sponsored to enter Canada as spouses must stay in the relationship for two years before they're granted permanent residence status under the new law.

If they don't, they face deportation. Kenney argues that the new law will crack down on marriage fraud. The caveat: It does not apply to those who are victims of abuse or neglect, Kenney said.

• The minister of immigration announced that Ottawa would be changing the point system used to judge skilled-immigrant applications, emphasizing language skills and professional credentials equivalent to Canada's. Language proficiency will become a more important factor in whether applicants are approved.

Refugees
• Kenney performed radical surgery on Canada's refugee system. He moved to designate specific refugees as “irregular arrivals” — which allows for mandatory arrest and detention for up to a year. The law was prompted by two boatloads of Tamil refugees who in 2009 and 2010 arrived on the shores of British Columbia.

The law calls for officials to detain migrants for investigation. What's more irregular arrivals are banned from applying for permanent resident status, sponsoring family members and acquiring refugee travel documents for five years even if their refugee claims are accepted.

• Ottawa has created a list of safe countries of origin — countries considered capable of providing state protection for their citizens. A total of 27 countries have been named, 25 of them from the European Union. They include: Austria, Croatia, France, Hungary, Italy, Malta, Portugal, Spain and the United Kingdom.

Countries will be designated safe if their combined rejection, withdrawal and abandonment rate of asylum claims exceeds 75 per cent or when the withdrawn and abandoned caseload tops 60 per cent.

Refugees from “safe” countries will have their case fast-tracked through the refugee process, with their claims heard within 30 to 45 days. They will not be able to appeal the decision and will be removed from Canada in a year. All other eligible refugee claimants will receive a hearing within 60 days after their claim is referred to the refugee board.

• In a surprising move to the medical community and refugee advocates, Kenney announced that Ottawa would cut health benefits to refugee claimants. He claimed the move would save Ottawa $100 million over five years and discourage “unfounded” refugees from coming to Canada to seek medical care.

• In another move to protect Canada's borders, Kenney, under the Protecting Canada's Immigration System Act, introduced biometric measures — the collection of fingerprints and photos — from applicants in 29 countries, including Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Burma, Colombia, Democratic Republic of Congo, Haiti, Iran, Jamaica, Jordan, Haiti, Pakistan, Vietnam and Yemen.

This fingerprint information will be sent to the RCMP for storage and will be checked against the fingerprint records of refugee claimants, previous deportees, persons with Canadian criminal records and previous temporary resident applicants before a visa decision is made.

Citizenship
• Prospective Canadian citizens must now provide proof of language proficiency — in English or French — before they can apply for citizenship. The new regulation will affect candidates between the ages of 18 and 54. Immigration officials will return applications of those who do not provide evidence of proficiency.

• Kenney announced in September he would be revoking the citizenship of 3,100 people — mostly from the Persian Gulf States — who had lied about their residency and failed to reside in Canada for three of the four previous years when they applied for citizenship. The announcement came after the creation of an immigration fraud tip line in 2011.

Temporary Foreign Workers
• Rules surrounding temporary foreign workers were radically rewritten. Close to 191,000 temporary foreign workers came to Canada in 2011, 67,000 in Ontario.

• Changes were made to allow employers to pay temporary high-skilled foreign workers up to 15 per cent less than the prevailing local wage. In the case of low-skilled workers, it's 5 per cent less.

• In December, Ottawa eliminated the special parental benefits for foreign migrant workers who contribute an estimated $3.4 million to the country's employment insurance system.

This means 30,000 migrant workers who are employed under the Seasonal Agricultural Workers Program are not eligible to take leave and collect any benefit while caring for newborns or sick children. Migrant workers have never been eligible for full EI benefits but previously they could access special benefits for up to 35 weeks — even if they were outside of Canada.

http://www.thestar.com/news/investigations/immigration/article/1308263--immigration-and-refugee-system-canada-made-controversial-changes-in-2012
The summery of changes which Kenny introduced in one year left me speechless ,,,,,,regardless of how strict and unfair these new rules are,,,how can immigration officers, offices keep up with all these new changes?,,,,

This man has made the life of millions of people round the world worse by making coming and settling in Canada harder ,,,,I only pray that what he does is in the favor of Canadian themselves, because otherwise he will be the only beneficiary of his insane "reforms"!
 

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Dear All Members,
The most powerful reason why people with Paper Selection decision positive AND total Points above 67 are kept in process MIGHT be due to decision that Hon. Justice Rennie has delivered in LIANG case.
I am quoting from the decision
"[43] However, section 87.3 does not eliminate the Minister’s duty to process applications in a reasonably timely manner, at least those applications that are accepted for processing. There is no language in section 87.3 or any other amendment to the Act that extinguishes the longstanding, well-accepted duty to process applications in a reasonable time frame. The Minister can set instructions that permit him to return some applications without processing them at all, and thus obviously there is no further duty in respect of those applications. However, for those that are determined eligible for processing, the duty to do so in a reasonably timely manner remains, absent clear legislative language extinguishing that duty. The Ministerial Instructions inform the assessment of whether that duty is discharged in a reasonable period of time."

Please read carefully the wording of Hon. Judge of Federal Court that are marked in Bold and Italics. This may be the reason that those with positive paper selection decision and total point calculation greater than 67 is kept in process and I hope and pray that they might get processed. Further this are the oldest applications in the system.

Disclaimer:
All views expressed are solely individual and further comments are welcomed.
 

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thephilanthropist said:
"[43] However, section 87.3 does not eliminate the Minister's duty to process applications in a reasonably timely manner, at least those applications that are accepted for processing. There is no language in section 87.3 or any other amendment to the Act that extinguishes the longstanding, well-accepted duty to process applications in a reasonable time frame. The Minister can set instructions that permit him to return some applications without processing them at all, and thus obviously there is no further duty in respect of those applications. However, for those that are determined eligible for processing, the duty to do so in a reasonably timely manner remains, absent clear legislative language extinguishing that duty. The Ministerial Instructions inform the assessment of whether that duty is discharged in a reasonable period of time."
When a judge has already mentioned this in his ruling, so is the litigation claiming the instruction to be unlawful/unfair a big farce spun by the greedy lawyers?
 

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Gaber1 said:
In his reply Tim always saying Ifs and butts. And increasing date for new clients ever. Be aware. He is running his cheating buissness very cleaverly, you know.
You are only trying to cheat us by spreading falsehood about our lawyer Tim Leahy. Be mindful of what you are doing. Don't simply take others for granted.