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sumitk12345

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Why Canada welcome's people in Investor Immigration Program in which 5th class fail can immigrate to Canada with whole family if he has money.

Why Canada welcome in these kind of immigration people without IELTS. Many speak broken English. It means only money talks, where qualification and experience is good their IELTS becomes a barrier for many people.

Why in family sponsorship a person can sponsor his illiterate brother who can be a flush cleaner in his country and not even know's how to speak English. In this without IELTS this flush cleaner can easily migrate to Canada. It means if you are qualified and has good working experience you have to pass IELTS and if you are flush cleaner or rich illiterate Canadians will manage to face a such illiterate in their country.

Why such kind of immigration's are open. I think just for sake of money. Canadians are ready to deal with these illiterates i.e. this offer is open...
 
I think that immigration policies are geared towards benefiting the host country. The benefits could come in many forms such as skilled workforce or in some cases, influx of money. I think that the rationale is that provided the immigrants will not be a burden to the host country (either because he has a skill set which is in demand or he has wealth that can bring to the country), then his or her application can be considered for acceptance.

I think that it would be unfair that someone's application will be rejected just because he does not have a good command of the english language unless of course if he is applying under the FSW category whose requirements is of course different. Just my 2 cents.
 
Yes Cletotravis.. Thanks for your appreciation.. That what I was pointing out as if anyone's application rejected because his/her score even 5.5....In another case no ielts is required if you have money. Good.... I think the day will come Canada might full of illiterates rather literate...As in whole world people are rich having a lot of black money...


Its difficult to digest if one scores 5.5 but requirement is 6.0 application will not be accepted... I believe unless you get the environment to shape yourself in it you won't be able to cope up.. I think ielts scoring should be lenient in FSW. There is some importance of at-least human nature except money and family relations. But who cares?
 
sumitk12345 said:
Yes Cletotravis.. Thanks for your appreciation.. That what I was pointing out as if anyone's application rejected because his/her score even 5.5....In another case no ielts is required if you have money. Good.... I think the day will come Canada might full of illiterates rather literate...As in whole world people are rich having a lot of black money...


Its difficult to digest if one scores 5.5 but requirement is 6.0 application will not be accepted... I believe unless you get the environment to shape yourself in it you won't be able to cope up.. I think ielts scoring should be lenient in FSW. There is some importance of at-least human nature except money and family relations. But who cares?

Life should be fair. I should have more money. There should be world peace etc etc.

It is a very selfish world out there and each nation is looking for maximizing their chances of survival since resources are dwindling but global population is going up. You can't really blame Canada for looking after their own interests. Don't know what your reasons for this bitterness but an IELTS score is not the end of the world and improving from 5.5 to 6 with a little effort is not rocket science. We can continue to complain about how unfair the world is or prove them wrong by winning. The choice is entirely ours.
 
I am not aware that you can sponsor illiterate brothers to Canada. There are ways for close relatives to immigrate under a couple of PNP's but they must be skilled, pass IELTS and in some cases even have a skilled job offer in the province.

You can sponsor an illiterate brother if he is under 18 and an orphan.

You can sponsor your illiterate parents and their illiterate children up until age 22 which is something that immigration wanted to halt, that is not the parents sponsorship but the fact that adult children are immigrating with their parents as if they were minors. However, the plan to change the age limits and remove adult students seems to have been put on hold for the time being.

You can of course sponsor your illiterate spouse as well.
 
And of course, your illiterate children....

However, your choice of the initial word "illiterate" is flawed. The definition is of somebody who cannot read or write.
Just because you cannot speak/understand/read/write a language that is not native to you, does not make you illiterate. Can you speak "Cymraeg"? Can you understand "Suomi"? Are you therefor illiterate?
 
Illiterate not means if one doesn't pronounce a word he/she illiterate.

Leon - It's there one can sponsor illiterate brother... There is no requirement of IELTS, no need to be educated nothing..Just what you need you have a first blood relation in Canada who already has PR....If you are a flush cleaner and ur brother is residing in Canada as PR...Your real brother can sponsor you and you will get the PR. NO need to give any IELTS. I don't understand why Canada allows this kind of immigration.... What benefit Canada gets to sponsor your illiterate brother who is flush cleaner or even anything else?? Strange!!!!!!!!
 
sumitk12345 said:
Illiterate not means if one doesn't pronounce a word he/she illiterate.

Leon - It's there one can sponsor illiterate brother... There is no requirement of IELTS, no need to be educated nothing..Just what you need you have a first blood relation in Canada who already has PR....If you are a flush cleaner and ur brother is residing in Canada as PR...Your real brother can sponsor you and you will get the PR. NO need to give any IELTS. I don't understand why Canada allows this kind of immigration.... What benefit Canada gets to sponsor your illiterate brother who is flush cleaner or even anything else?? Strange!!!!!!!!

It's actually very difficult to sponsor a brother through family class. I think you're making this into a much bigger problem than it really is. You can sponsor a brother who is a minor / dependent if you are sponsoring your parents and include the brother in the application because that brother is either still a child or is attending school full time (in which case the brother can't be illiterate). Other than that, you can only sponsor a brother through family class if you have no family in Canada and no spouse/children. To qualify under this sponsorship stream, you would have to have no family in Canada (no spouse, no partner, no children, no parents, no aunts, no uncles, no nephews, no nieces). You also cannot have a partner/spouse or children outside of Canada who you can sponsor. Very few people qualify to sponsor a brother under this stream because the requirements are so restrictive. Again, I think you're making this into a much (much much) bigger deal than it really is.
 
That's right, there is that "one other relative" clause under the sponsorship class but it is extremely hard to qualify.

You must be alone in Canada. You may not have any close relative who is a PR or citizen. You may not have a spouse or children in Canada. You may not have any other relative outside Canada that you would be eligible to sponsor either under a regular immigration class so that means no spouse or children outside Canada that you could sponsor and no living parents outside Canada either. This also applies when you have parents who aren't even interested in immigrating to Canada. Just that your parents are alive and you could potentially sponsor them would bar you from the "one other relative" clause.
 
I think scylla saying something different.

My far away neighbours recently got PR as their real brother is residing in Canada who already has PR...Those even can't communicate "How Are You" properly in English people like them got PR just bcz her real brother has already PR of Canada...Further, she got PR with her kids, husband....
I inquired and well know if your real brother, sister (first blood) can sponsor you and your whole family can migrate easily even if you are failure in English in your past study or even 10th class fail..haha... why is this so?

I know no one can answer to this directly...All are puzzling me..yaa?
 
OK, show us how it was done. Where is the method on the CIC website?
 
It is possible that her brother is alone in Canada, has no family, their parents are no longer living etc. in which case, he would be able to sponsor her and she would of course not be expected to leave her spouse and children behind.
 
So, an exceptional case that doesn't fit in with the generalization that the OP would have us accept?
 
Why the big fuss ? If you don't agree with the Canadian regulations, don't go there - illiterate or not, toilet cleaner or not.

I still haven't understood what sumitk's issue is with the system. Was it a 5.5 that became a problem ? :D
 
I believe that is something family sponsorship in which one can call his/her parents, real siblings to Canada as PR... I am trying to find out what is the benefit or motive behind this scheme to help ur illiterate siblings to get PR?