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sam033

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hallo,can family declaration of canadian national be resubmitted second time if someone already have submitted to authority but want to include anyone of his family member again for family class visa?


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Your question isn't clear. You'll have to provide more detail so that we can understand what you are asking.
 

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When you immigrated to Canada, you should have listed your immediate family on your application form such as spouse / common law partner and your dependent children. If you listed a person as not accompanying at the time but this person did their medicals and you now want to sponsor them, you can do that. If you did not list a person in your immediate family at the time you immigrated, you can have a problem due to misrepresentation and you can not sponsor that person. If you added a person to your family after getting your PR, that is, you have a new baby outside Canada or you have gotten married, you can sponsor.

If this is not a person in your immediate family, they would have been listed on your additional information form and you do not really have many options to sponsor them but depends on who it is and the situation.
 

sam033

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Leon said:
When you immigrated to Canada, you should have listed your immediate family on your application form such as spouse / common law partner and your dependent children. If you listed a person as not accompanying at the time but this person did their medicals and you now want to sponsor them, you can do that. If you did not list a person in your immediate family at the time you immigrated, you can have a problem due to misrepresentation and you can not sponsor that person. If you added a person to your family after getting your PR, that is, you have a new baby outside Canada or you have gotten married, you can sponsor.

If this is not a person in your immediate family, they would have been listed on your additional information form and you do not really have many options to sponsor them but depends on who it is and the situation.
my brother is in canada.so , he wants to sponsor me.now he has no other family member present in canada.i,m the only one.but because of misunderstanding he did not include me in form in past. but now he wants to sponsor me.can he undo that?
 

sam033

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sam033 said:
my brother is in canada.so , he wants to sponsor me.now he has no other family member present in canada.i,m the only one.but because of misunderstanding he did not include me in form in past. but now he wants to sponsor me.can he undo that?
can u tell who r the other family member can he sponsor?can he sponsor his cousin if there is no other member present in canada?
 

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sam033 said:
my brother is in canada.so , he wants to sponsor me.now he has no other family member present in canada.i,m the only one.but because of misunderstanding he did not include me in form in past. but now he wants to sponsor me.can he undo that?
He would not have been able to include you in his IMM0008 PR application form but he should have included you in the additional family information form. Not having done that would be bad.

In order to sponsor you under the federal system, he can have no close relative in Canada and no spouse and he also can't have a close relative alive in another country that he would be eligible to sponsor. For example, if your parents are alive, he can not sponsor you because he is eligible to sponsor your parents, even though parents sponsorship is currently on hold and even if your parents don't even want to go.

However, if he lives in Manitoba and is there for at least a year and you both meet other requirements, he can sponsor you under the Manitoba PNP. If he is in SK, same thing except then you would also need a job offer.
 

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sam033 said:
can u tell who r the other family member can he sponsor?can he sponsor his cousin if there is no other member present in canada?
Yes, it is allowed to sponsor one other relative if you have no close relatives in Canada and also no spouse and also don't have any close relatives alive in other countries that you might qualify to sponsor such as parents, children, spouse, orphan nieces or nephews etc.
 

sam033

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Leon said:
Yes, it is allowed to sponsor one other relative if you have no close relatives in Canada and also no spouse and also don't have any close relatives alive in other countries that you might qualify to sponsor such as parents, children, spouse, orphan nieces or nephews etc.
can u clarify if he wants to sponsor his cousin under family class what are the other requirement need to fulfill?
1. plz clarify here "any close relatives alive" mean parents or spouse/child? his parents are alive.can he sponsor other relative?
2.in his additional family information form is it mandatory to include the name of other relative orphan nieces or nephews or cousin etc?
3.what r total processing time?
4.what r rejection rate?
5.what s fee?
 

sam033

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Leon said:
He would not have been able to include you in his IMM0008 PR application form but he should have included you in the additional family information form. Not having done that would be bad.

In order to sponsor you under the federal system, he can have no close relative in Canada and no spouse and he also can't have a close relative alive in another country that he would be eligible to sponsor. For example, if your parents are alive, he can not sponsor you because he is eligible to sponsor your parents, even though parents sponsorship is currently on hold and even if your parents don't even want to go.

However, if he lives in Manitoba and is there for at least a year and you both meet other requirements, he can sponsor you under the Manitoba PNP. If he is in SK, same thing except then you would also need a job offer.
if he lives in Manitoba or sk & meet other requirements & if he didn,t mention me in form can he sonsor me in this case?
 

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sam033 said:
can u clarify if he wants to sponsor his cousin under family class what are the other requirement need to fulfill?
1. plz clarify here "any close relatives alive" mean parents or spouse/child? his parents are alive.can he sponsor other relative?
2.in his additional family information form is it mandatory to include the name of other relative orphan nieces or nephews or cousin etc?
3.what r total processing time?
4.what r rejection rate?
5.what s fee?
If his parents are alive, he can not sponsor "one other relative". The criteria is that he is alone in Canada, that is he has no spouse, children or other close relatives in Canada and that he also does not have close relatives that he could sponsor such as parents, children etc. If this criteria is filled, he would be able to sponsor one other relative he could normally not sponsor like a cousin or adult sibling.
 

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sam033 said:
if he lives in Manitoba or sk & meet other requirements & if he didn,t mention me in form can he sonsor me in this case?
Are you sure he did not mention you in the additional family information form and if not, then why not? I would worry that if somebody fails to mention a brother and then all of a sudden shows up with one, immigration will not be very happy. However, it would not be immigration that does the initial processing if he lives in SK or MB. It is the Provincial nominee program. They may not have access to his PR application forms and may not be able to check who he mentioned on the form when he applied. I do not know if immigration then double checks that once the PNP has approved. You could try it.
 

sam033

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Leon said:
Are you sure he did not mention you in the additional family information form and if not, then why not? I would worry that if somebody fails to mention a brother and then all of a sudden shows up with one, immigration will not be very happy. However, it would not be immigration that does the initial processing if he lives in SK or MB. It is the Provincial nominee program. They may not have access to his PR application forms and may not be able to check who he mentioned on the form when he applied. I do not know if immigration then double checks that once the PNP has approved. You could try it.
but his parents alive or not how to prove that?does immigration check that?
can he sponsor adult nephew or niece?

under sk or manitoba pnp can he sponsor if parents alive?
is other relatives name also has to be mentioned his PR form for sponsoring in PNP CLASS
 

sam033

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Leon said:
Are you sure he did not mention you in the additional family information form and if not, then why not? I would worry that if somebody fails to mention a brother and then all of a sudden shows up with one, immigration will not be very happy. However, it would not be immigration that does the initial processing if he lives in SK or MB. It is the Provincial nominee program. They may not have access to his PR application forms and may not be able to check who he mentioned on the form when he applied. I do not know if immigration then double checks that once the PNP has approved. You could try it.
under PNP is ielts needed? is ielts academic test accepted? is 3 yr old score accepted
 

scylla

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sam033 said:
under PNP is ielts needed? is ielts academic test accepted? is 3 yr old score accepted
Yes - IELTS is required.

No - Academic is not accepted. Only General.

No - A 3 year old score is not accepted. The results cannot be more than two years old.
 

Leon

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sam033 said:
but his parents alive or not how to prove that?does immigration check that?
can he sponsor adult nephew or niece?

under sk or manitoba pnp can he sponsor if parents alive?
is other relatives name also has to be mentioned his PR form for sponsoring in PNP CLASS
If somebody wants to use the federal exception to sponsor one other relative, I assume they will ask you if your parents are alive and they may ask for their death certificates. Even if they don't, do you honestly want to claim to immigration that your parents are dead if they aren't? What if they want to apply for a visa to visit you? You will try to explain to immigration then that they came alive again? I strongly advise you not to lie to immigration. It can come back to haunt you, and it can even cause your PR to be revoked.

If his parents are truly dead and he is not married, has no children, no close relatives in Canada and no close relatives elsewhere that he can sponsor, he could use the federal exception to sponsor one other relative such as an adult nephew or a niece or a cousin, adult sibling etc.

Under PNP, he can sponsor certain relatives even if he has close relatives in Canada or elsewhere. The federal system purpose is to reunite families but the PNP purpose is more to bring skilled workers into the province. Therefore, they require that the sponsored person should have job related training or education and some work experience and in SK, you also need a job offer in your field. After having completed the sponsorship of one relative under PNP, he can sponsor another and another as long as they fulfill the requirements of the program and as long as they all stay in that province.

sam033 said:
under PNP is ielts needed? is ielts academic test accepted? is 3 yr old score accepted
If IELTS is required, they will not accept a 3 year old score and for the most part, immigration likes General training over Academic but you should wait until your relative is really living in one of those provinces for one year and then see before they are going to sponsor you if IELTS is required under that immigration class. The rules can also change between now and then. If IELTS is required, then you simply take it.