even John McCallum admits international students are the best source of immigrants. So this is happening just not in the near future.
Maybe you're right. when i see the bill c-6 (favoring international students on citizenship) process, they had to discuss abt C-6 in Citizenship and Immigration committee ( //openparliament.ca/committees/activities/5349/ ) then presenting that study to parliament.positiveenergylittlesun said:even John McCallum admits international students are the best source of immigrants. So this is happening just not in the near future.
Agree 100%. I don't mean to downplay all international students (I was international student byself) but someone, who did some junky course in some junky colledge and then worked one year in Starbucks is not really better for Canada then some internationl professional with many years of proffesional experience. Let's compare apples to apples - take two persons with identical education and identical experience with only one difference - first person gained education/experience in Canada, the second one - overseas. For sure the first one will get more CRS points for his Canadian education/experience. So it's wrong to say that Canadian graduates dosn't have any advantage over candidates from overseas.LokiJr01 said:Let's be realistic here. The purpose of immigration is to gather the best talents for the benefit of Canada's economy. The CRS, while it could use some improvement, allows the government to choose the most economical individuals based on the combination of factors namely age, language capability, job offer, adaptability, and skills.
You could spend millions of dollars to study in Canada but if your skills are not what the country needs...well you what happens next. someone who has never been to canada might end up having a better chance of getting a visa because of his credentials.
It's ok to vent out but it's not ok to downplay other candidate's chances simply because other people have the money to study in Canada![]()
As myself in the international student category, I'm trying to be realistic as people are exaggerating and asking too much, especially those claiming points for work experience not related to their profession and the Minister has been aware about the issue of students engaged in low skilled jobs and this affect our credibility as international student;Hansdza said:Here we go again..
I remember last time this topic was discussed it went nowhere but just nasty comments and people got upset (and outraged). I believe the previous thread is locked now..
Keep it cool guys..
+1!pfse said:Agree 100%. I don't mean to downplay all international students (I was international student byself) but someone, who did some junky course in some junky colledge and then worked one year in Starbucks is not really better for Canada then some internationl professional with many years of proffesional experience. Let's compare apples to apples - take two persons with identical education and identical experience with only one difference - first person gained education/experience in Canada, the second one - overseas. For sure the first one will get more CRS points for his Canadian education/experience. So it's wrong to say that Canadian graduates dosn't have any advantage over candidates from overseas.
Where did in my comment saying that studying in Canada will guarantee a PR? where did it say someone force me or other inland applicants to stay here and pay taxes? can you point it out? you guys keep using the straw man fallacy in your arguments to defeat other people's logic.Elrud said:Studying or working in Canada does not guarantee PR as there is a condition on your TRV and permit that you should leave Canada by its expiry date and it is assumed you agreed to it once you land in Canada; no one had forced you to work and pay taxes in Canada and it is you who made that choice;
As you say for the advantages, you get points, considering your Adaptability in Canada, etc... but if you score less on other factors, then of course your CRS might be less than someone outside Canada; CIC need people whose skills is in need in Canada: it is clear why now the French stream remains open?
On the basis of language, everyone is equitably assessed as anyone around the world need to take the same test, tailored for immigration: someone outside Canada should take the same exam and might score higher than someone inland; so I believe it makes sense when they select outland;
I agree CIC is trying to be fair and equal to everyone around the world and generous enough to give points under Adaptability factor for inland applicants; now if you don't meet the criteria, it's not their fault;
Do those int't students working in Starbucks ever qualified enough to get an ITAs in Express Entry or you are making it up?pfse said:Agree 100%. I don't mean to downplay all international students (I was international student byself) but someone, who did some junky course in some junky colledge and then worked one year in Starbucks is not really better for Canada then some internationl professional with many years of proffesional experience.
Are you sure? have you tested your hypothesis yet? if not please test it HERE:pfse said:Let's compare apples to apples - take two persons with identical education and identical experience with only one difference - first person gained education/experience in Canada, the second one - overseas. For sure the first one will get more CRS points for his Canadian education/experience. So it's wrong to say that Canadian graduates dosn't have any advantage over candidates from overseas.
Alexios07 said:Right now, it absolutely makes no sense at all that for both applicants with same age, same degree (bachelor) and same ielts scores (max scores), but:
while
- One with 2 years Canadian work exp only has 469 points
- One with 1 year Canadian work exp and 1 year foreign work xp has 482
Good points.Alexios07 said:Another factor that makes IRCC wants to give more points to Canadian degree because they want to attract more int'l students to come to Canada and spend money here to boost Canadian economy. As of 2014, Canada has around 336,000 int'l students. Do you know how much they spend to help boosting Canadian economy? it's more than $7.7 BILLION dollars (Source), and create over 81,000 local jobs for Canadian. That's more than 7% of Canada's GDP
Therefore, if Canadian degrees are treated the same as foreign degrees, then who would want to come here and study? they will go to some cheaper developed countries instead, like Singapore for example.
Because you can get job without LMIA after graduation?then who would want to come here and study?
How come? PGWP does not allow to open a business. And nobody creates jobs for a reason to hire international students.create over 81,000 local jobs for Canadian.
It means injection of the money creates jobs. International students buy food, transit services, health services, and of course educational services.Regina said:How come? PGWP does not allow to open a business. And nobody creates jobs for a reason to hire international students.
Local jobs, don't you see that every college and uni in Canada always have an International Student center? then homestay program, dorms and ESL programs etc.Regina said:How come? PGWP does not allow to open a business. And nobody creates jobs for a reason to hire international students.
International students buy food, transit services, health services, and of course educational services.
Sorry official stats does not prove it.81,000 local jobs for Canadian.
Do they open a new one every year? or it was created 5-10 years ago and has been working since then?International Student center