Express Entry Profile - Help Needed

[WednesdayBlues]

Hello Everyone! I require a small clarification... When I had initially created my express entry profile, in the family section, I had mentioned only 1 as my family members available (I read the question wrongly, my bad) but actually it is 3. So once we'd received the ITA, i re-read the question and realized that i made a mistake by choosing 1 instead of 3. (including my parents)

So, my question is should i still mention it as 1 or can i make the change as 3? Just wanted to know if this will be considered as a error or not... Any help/feedback will be much appreciated! Thanks. (Sorry if the question is too amateur-ish)

 

[ContactFront]

Family means spouse, common law partner and your children/grandchildren. Parents don't count.
If you are single without children, then it's 1

 

[WednesdayBlues]

Family means spouse, common law partner and your children/grandchildren. Parents don't count.
If you are single without children, then it's 1

Thank you! Also, there is a question of travel history that either me or my family has made. Should i include my parents' travel history or is it not applicable?

 

[Nuff_Love]

Thank you! Also, there is a question of travel history that either me or my family has made. Should i include my parents' travel history or is it not applicable?

Parent travel history is not applicable.

 

[ContactFront]

Thank you! Also, there is a question of travel history that either me or my family has made. Should i include my parents' travel history or is it not applicable?

No your parents travel history is not relevant.

 

[WednesdayBlues]

Thanks so much !

I have a question on getting the reference letter. Just like every other company, the company that I work for currently isn't comfortable in issuing me a Experience letter. (No Email proofs, I just had a conversation with HR to avoid escalations.) But, my manager is fine to sign the letter wherein i can fill in the details on a plain A4 paper. Since I'm taking this route, will my manager's signature + some supporting documents (payslips, Tax form etc) suffice to go along with a LOE? I read about get notarized as well but, I don't seem to quite connect the dots since a notary is public and how their signature and seal would validate the cause? I'm not sure about the connection here and any help provided will be much appreciated. Finally, should i mention my roles and responsibilities in the letter as same like in the NOC code so that, they can consider? Appreciate everybody's inputs here...

 

[hamgha]

Thanks so much !

I have a question on getting the reference letter. Just like every other company, the company that I work for currently isn't comfortable in issuing me a Experience letter. (No Email proofs, I just had a conversation with HR to avoid escalations.) But, my manager is fine to sign the letter wherein i can fill in the details on a plain A4 paper. Since I'm taking this route, will my manager's signature + some supporting documents (payslips, Tax form etc) suffice to go along with a LOE? I read about get notarized as well but, I don't seem to quite connect the dots since a notary is public and how their signature and seal would validate the cause? I'm not sure about the connection here and any help provided will be much appreciated. Finally, should i mention my roles and responsibilities in the letter as same like in the NOC code so that, they can consider? Appreciate everybody's inputs here...

DON'T use the exact same wording as the NOC. Have the manager draft the letter listing your tasks, don't get involved in the "wording" just double check all is well. I never understood getting things like this notarized either but for that better wait for someone else's input. Should be fine for the rest

 

[WednesdayBlues]

DON'T use the exact same wording as the NOC. Have the manager draft the letter listing your tasks, don't get involved in the "wording" just double check all is well. I never understood getting things like this notarized either but for that better wait for someone else's input. Should be fine for the rest

Thanks. That solves one part of the problem.... If someone could please explain the logic of getting my experience letter notarized, it would be of great help.

 

[crescent_jam]

Thanks. That solves one part of the problem.... If someone could please explain the logic of getting my experience letter notarized, it would be of great help.

Notarization is just another way to 'endorse' the document. A typical experience letter drawn up on Company letterhead and signed by an authorized officer of the employer (HR, or a company executive, or your manager if he/she is so authorized, etc.) is 'endorsed' by the letter-head and signature. But since your letter from your manager won't be 'endorsed' by the Company (i.e. is not on letterhead), notarizing it adds an additional layer of endorsement (an additional layer of 'hey, yes, this is legitimate, IRCC'). I don't *think* it's a requirement, but it may certainly help in convincing IRCC that the letter (and, more importantly, its contents) are legitimate and accurate.

 

[WednesdayBlues]

Notarization is just another way to 'endorse' the document. A typical experience letter drawn up on Company letterhead and signed by an authorized officer of the employer (HR, or a company executive, or your manager if he/she is so authorized, etc.) is 'endorsed' by the letter-head and signature. But since your letter from your manager won't be 'endorsed' by the Company (i.e. is not on letterhead), notarizing it adds an additional layer of endorsement (an additional layer of 'hey, yes, this is legitimate, IRCC'). I don't *think* it's a requirement, but it may certainly help in convincing IRCC that the letter (and, more importantly, its contents) are legitimate and accurate.

Thanks so much for the explanation! Just one final question - Now i will be providing 2 reference letters for employment and the problem is with the current employer since they won't issue one. So I spoke to my manager and he has agreed to sign on a letter. Now the catch is, i started in my current company with a different designation and I received a promotion last year. So, while providing the supporting documents along with the letter of explanation, I will be including my appointment letter as supporting document wherein my designation will be different than what i have mentioned in my EE profile.

The question is, will this become a problem (changes in designation) or should it be fine? I'm stuck with this for a while now and trying to find a solution. Kindly help!

 

[crescent_jam]

Thanks so much for the explanation! Just one final question - Now i will be providing 2 reference letters for employment and the problem is with the current employer since they won't issue one. So I spoke to my manager and he has agreed to sign on a letter. Now the catch is, i started in my current company with a different designation and I received a promotion last year. So, while providing the supporting documents along with the letter of explanation, I will be including my appointment letter as supporting document wherein my designation will be different than what i have mentioned in my EE profile.

The question is, will this become a problem (changes in designation) or should it be fine? I'm stuck with this for a while now and trying to find a solution. Kindly help!

Changing designations is fine as long as long as you provided the relevant NOC Code for each (if they have different ones) in your application (if you're claiming work experience points for both), and your reference letter speaks to both designations (and provides the information specific to each designation (e.g. salary, time in position, job duties & responsibilities, etc.).

Could you ask your manager to allude to your previous designation in the reference letter he/she is doing for you, as well? That way the appointment letter would serve as corroboration of what he/she is providing, as opposed to being the proof on its own...

If you didn't claim points for your years of experience under the first designation, it doesn't really matter. You just need to provide proof for the experience for which you claimed points.

 

[WednesdayBlues]

Changing designations is fine as long as long as you provided the relevant NOC Code for each (if they have different ones) in your application (if you're claiming work experience points for both), and your reference letter speaks to both designations (and provides the information specific to each designation (e.g. salary, time in position, job duties & responsibilities, etc.).

Could you ask your manager to allude to your previous designation in the reference letter he/she is doing for you, as well? That way the appointment letter would serve as corroboration of what he/she is providing, as opposed to being the proof on its own...

If you didn't claim points for your years of experience under the first designation, it doesn't really matter. You just need to provide proof for the experience for which you claimed points.

Thanks Crescent. Now, I did NOT split my working years in my application for my current company. When I mentioned as 2 reference letters initially, the 1st one will be for a different company, I guess i didn't mention that properly my bad. I clubbed my total working years with my current designation for my current company and did not mention about how i started. I reckon it's a mistake on my part but, how do i tackle this? Again, i have just mentioned my current title in my application but, when I do provide additional documents such as appointment letter etc will that become a problem since the job titles would be different ? So just to summarize: At my current job, I started at a different designation and now at a different designation. (In my application, I did not split this and just mentioned my current designation with one NOC and mentioned my total working years from when I actually began)

I do hope there's a workaround for this situation.

 

[crescent_jam]

Thanks Crescent. Now, I did NOT split my working years in my application for my current company. When I mentioned as 2 reference letters initially, the 1st one will be for a different company, I guess i didn't mention that properly my bad. I clubbed my total working years with my current designation for my current company and did not mention about how i started. I reckon it's a mistake on my part but, how do i tackle this? Again, i have just mentioned my current title in my application but, when I do provide additional documents such as appointment letter etc will that become a problem since the job titles would be different ? So just to summarize: At my current job, I started at a different designation and now at a different designation. (In my application, I did not split this and just mentioned my current designation with one NOC and mentioned my total working years from when I actually began)

I do hope there's a workaround for this situation.

If the 2 designations have 2 different NOC Codes, you'll need to split them up but, since you are asking about your work experience letters, it means you haven't submitted your application as yet, so you can always go and revise the application to account for the 2 different designations in 2 separate record entries.

If they have the same NOC Code then I don't think this will be an issue. I had 2 different designations during the 7 years of work experience I claimed but they were under the same NOC code, so I just entered them as one entry in my application with the title of the most recent designation (there wasn't enough space to specify both job titles) and then just broke it down in the Reference letter. My application got approved so I assume this was fine with IRCC.

 

[WednesdayBlues]

If the 2 designations have 2 different NOC Codes, you'll need to split them up but, since you are asking about your work experience letters, it means you haven't submitted your application as yet, so you can always go and revise the application to account for the 2 different designations in 2 separate record entries.

If they have the same NOC Code then I don't think this will be an issue. I had 2 different designations during the 7 years of work experience I claimed but they were under the same NOC code, so I just entered them as one entry in my application with the title of the most recent designation (there wasn't enough space to specify both job titles) and then just broke it down in the Reference letter. My application got approved so I assume this was fine with IRCC.

Yes, the NOC code is more or less the same and there isn't much difference in term of duties performed initially and what i have been doing now. You have been of great help Crescent - thanks much! But just, one last clarification and sorry for bugging. I have received my ITA so, like you had mentioned, I do have the option to create another slot in my ITA application and mention my first designation in my current company which i did not do so while creating my EE profile. So, will the edit raise eyebrows or should i just go ahead, edit the changes and just provide one reference letter which says I started as an Executive and now currently serving as Assistant Manager and also include a sentence which will say "Roles and responsibilities remained the same during this period" (I will change the grammar though but, corrections/suggestions welcome)

 

[crescent_jam]

Yes, the NOC code is more or less the same and there isn't much difference in term of duties performed initially and what i have been doing now. You have been of great help Crescent - thanks much! But just, one last clarification and sorry for bugging. I have received my ITA so, like you had mentioned, I do have the option to create another slot in my ITA application and mention my first designation in my current company which i did not do so while creating my EE profile. So, will the edit raise eyebrows or should i just go ahead, edit the changes and just provide one reference letter which says I started as an Executive and now currently serving as Assistant Manager and also include a sentence which will say "Roles and responsibilities remained the same during this period" (I will change the grammar though but, corrections/suggestions welcome)

It won't raise eyebrows - you're allowed to edit the information in your application, even if it conflicts with your profile - in fact, you should. It is our responsibility to ensure everything we submit is accurate, even if that means having a discrepancy between your EE profile and your eAPR. A change won't have a negative impact on you unless the change results in your CRS Score dropping below the cut-off CRS for the Draw in which you received your ITA. The change you've outlined shouldn't have any impact on your CRS Score.

That being said, if your NOC Code is the same for both designations, I don't think you need to include a separate entry for your first designation. As I said, since both of my designations fell under the same NOC Code, I just included one entry for both of them.