Express Entry - e-APR Submitted in November 2016

rajkamalmohanram · Jan 16, 2017

shariq123 said:
Guys, here's an interesting situation. Either my English comprehension skills are getting poorer by the day or I'm correct in thinking that the London Visa Office has crafted a very poor email.

I have gotten my CoPR. Just to recap a little bit, my wife is supposed to have her delivery around 30th June 2017 while my CoPR mentions my visa expiry date which is 15th May 2017 (medical expiry date). I know the problems associated with this dilemma if I choose to get baby delivered in my home country so I'm not going to go into that detail.

Before I submitted my passport to local VFS office, I emailed my London Visa Office and told them that my wife has an expected due date of 30th June 2017 as the PPR email mentioned that "Change in health circumstance" needs to be mentioned to London Visa Office. That is all I mentioned. I didn't request them to extend my landing date or anything of that sort. Just an intimation of my spouse delivering on 30th June 2017. I sent this email on 10th January 2017 and submitted my passport to local VFS office on 11th January 2017.

I received my CoPR on 12th January 2017 along with the passports with the visa counterfoil stamped in them. Today (16th January 2017), I receive an email from the London Visa Office which states:

1. If you and your spouse are choosing to land after your child is born:

a. You must advise us before the birth of your child or before your visa expires (whichever date comes earliest)

This is clear. In this case, IF you want to land after your wife delievers, then you must inform them accordingly. However, if your visa expires BEFORE your wife delievers (which is true in your case), you have to inform them that you would like to land at a later point in time AND you have to tell them this BEFORE your visa expires.

b. Your visa/COPR documents will be cancelled.
c. We will request various documents, including confirmation of medical examination, for your child.
d. If the requirements are satisfied, new visa/COPR documents will be issued.

Let's assume that I'm choosing to land AFTER my child is born. Based on the email I should be advising them that I will be landing after my child is born, before 15th May 2017 as that is the earlier of the two dates. Now if my understanding of their email is correct, they will then cancel my and my spouse's visa/COPR and then request additional documents. Then they will issue me new visa/COPR documents if everything is fine.

Now the problem which the London visa Office didn't recognize in this email (or I think they didn't recognize) was that my and my spouse's medicals will also expire before the birth of my child (meaning landing date will also expire). The understanding I am getting from their email is that they can put my status on hold if I tell them I'm having my baby delivered in my home country. What they will do is then request additional documents from me. Now what are these additional documents?

You would have to show additional proof of funds and submit medical results and passport for your baby.

Does this also include new medicals for me and my spouse?

If it is beyond the expiry of your medicals, then you might very likely be asked to submit a fresh copy of your medicals too.

If my understanding is correct, this completely contravenes the fact that Landing Dates cannot be extended at all. What the email has suggested is basically extending my landing date that has been issued, no??

Landing dates can be extended in certain demanding circumstances. Even though your new medical will be valid for one more year, the VO might specify a date before that for you and your family to land (This is only my opinion).

I thought that the email should've said this in point 1(a)

a. You must advise us after the birth of your child and before your visa expires.

The point they wanted to make is this.

What they mean by the sentence above is :

If your baby is born before you land, you have to inform us after the baby is born OR

If your baby is yet to be born BUT your visa is expiring before your baby could be born, then you have to inform us before the visa is expiring.

This would've cleared everything. Because then they would request new medicals of my child, cancel my existing visa/COPR and issue me a new visa/COPR.

I think they've assumed that the child is always born BEFORE the visa expires and therefore they just sent me a cookie-cutter email they send to everyone.

Please help me understand this email. I may very well be wrong in interpreting their email. Open to suggestions. By the way I do want to get my child delivered in my home country.

rajkamalmohanram · Jan 16, 2017

mayu2605 said:
Hi Raj,
But what's meaning of it?

Legend has it that when an officer looks through your file, one of these e-mails is triggered. Sometimes, you will see an actual status change.

shariq123 · Jan 16, 2017

Dear Raj,

First of all many thanks for your reply.

So let me get some further clarity. Since 15th May 2017 is my and my spouse's medical expiry (and visa expiry date), if I let London Visa Office know before 15 May 2017 that I am intending to land AFTER getting child delivered in my home country, they will just cancel my current visa/COPR and once child is born ask for new documents such as additional proof of funds, new medicals for me, spouse and child etc and issue me new visa/COPR if everything's in order?

My confusion reigns from the fact that once your landing date (15 May 2017 in my case) expires without you having landed in Canada, you go back to square one whereby you'll need to create a new Express Entry Profile, wait for an ITA and all that stuff again. But Raj, you're saying that in my case I will not go back to square one despite my visa going lapse by virtue of not landing before that date. All I would need to do is inform them of my decision to land after my child is delivered and they will basically put my application on hold until baby is born and then will ask all three of us to redo the medicals.

I hope I'm making sense to you and sorry in advance for picking your brain.

AnshulAwasthi · Jan 16, 2017

mashamasha said:
Hi All! Has anyone who was asked to submit additional documents had a status change from "Provided" to "Passes" under "Review of submitted documents"? I had a schedule A request in mid-December and still no movement on the submitted doc.

I too submitted my schedule A and a copy of my wife's renewed passport on Jan 4 and the status still says provided.

rafzy · Jan 16, 2017

AnshulAwasthi said:
I too submitted my schedule A and a copy of my wife's renewed passport on Jan 4 and the status still says provided.

I submitted RPRF payment slip on dec 19 and my status still shows provided.

vickymichael · Jan 16, 2017

chunka-tuna said:
Hi Raj,

I received notice today for PPR. Just have to send in the photocopy of passport and submit new passport photos to get CoPR letter. What a tremendous blessing!!! Thanks to all on this board who provided information to me and many of the others who are going through this process. There are many of us who don't post much but read this board quite a bit. You guys are awesome for taking the time to help others! Best wishes to all of you who are going through this process. I think I'm going to go celebrate with my family now! ;D

Congrats!

rajkamalmohanram · Jan 16, 2017

shariq123 said:
Dear Raj,

First of all many thanks for your reply.

So let me get some further clarity. Since 15th May 2017 is my and my spouse's medical expiry (and visa expiry date), if I let London Visa Office know before 15 May 2017 that I am intending to land AFTER getting child delivered in my home country, they will just cancel my current visa/COPR and once child is born ask for new documents such as additional proof of funds, new medicals for me, spouse and child etc and issue me new visa/COPR if everything's in order?

That is my understanding too. Yes.

My confusion reigns from the fact that once your landing date (15 May 2017 in my case) expires without you having landed in Canada, you go back to square one whereby you'll need to create a new Express Entry Profile, wait for an ITA and all that stuff again. But Raj, you're saying that in my case I will not go back to square one despite my visa going lapse by virtue of not landing before that date. All I would need to do is inform them of my decision to land after my child is delivered and they will basically put my application on hold until baby is born and then will ask all three of us to redo the medicals.

Per my inference, yes. Its like this -

If you inform them that you intend to land after the baby is born (which in your case is after the visa expiry) before the visa expires, then they will cancel the current COPR/Visa and issue you and your dependents a new one.

If you do not inform IRCC before your visa expires, that you intend to land in Canada after the baby is born, then your Visa/COPR would be cancelled and you would have to start from scratch.

This is my understanding.

I hope I'm making sense to you and sorry in advance for picking your brain.

Ask them once again clearly.

rajkamalmohanram · Jan 16, 2017

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16th January Update

November e-APR spreadsheet ---> http://tinyurl.com/nov16sheet

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[size=10pt]Total Number of Applicants =144

[size=10pt]Number of PPRs =008

[size=10pt]Pending PPRs =136

Stream	Name	e-APR AOR	Meds Passed	BGS change	BGS change date	R10/A11.2 Status	Visa Office	Passport Request	Additional Info
CEC	ScarletSails	01 Nov
CEC	ksiusha	01 Nov	19 Nov	NN	19 Dec
CEC	Saurabh_Trivedi	01 Nov	21 Nov
PNP-O	rajkamalmohanram	02 Nov	08 Nov	NN	18 Nov
PNP-I	ccar	02 Nov	19 Nov	IP/NN	23 Nov/16 Jan
PNP-O	rainbow00	02 Nov	16 Nov	NN	17 Nov
PNP-I	ramangill	02 Nov	22 Nov
CEC	carbonchemist	02 Nov	21 Nov	IP	21 Nov				Singapore PCC requested on 21st Nov. RCMP PCC request on 22nd Nov.
CEC	gsssshmu	02 Nov	21 Nov	IP/NN	21 Nov/13 Jan				Schedule A requested and submitted on 12 Jan.
PNP-I	Lpbe	02 Nov	03 Nov						Received Schedule A request on 24 November.
PNP-I	graacekim	02 Nov	24 Nov	NN
PNP-I	Mltan	02 Nov	24 Nov	NN
PNP-I	dhasha1	03 Nov	26 Nov	IP/NN	26 Nov/13 Dec
FSW-O	mgnlky	04 Nov
PNP-O	tari7499	04 Nov	17 Nov	NN	22 Nov				Received Schedule A request on Nov 18.
PNP-I	TheGuitarist	04 Nov	28 Nov	IP/NN	28 Nov/02 Dec
PNP-I	andyincanada	04 Nov	25 Nov	IP/NN	25 Nov/27 Nov
PNP-I	utagoe	04 Nov	25 Nov	IP/NN	25 Nov/07 Dec
PNP-I	samonfire_007	05 Nov	28 Nov
PNP-O	ektasapra	06 Nov	08 Nov	NN	01 Dec				IMM5562E request received on November 16.
CEC	Lets_do_it	06 Nov	27 Nov	IP/NN	27 Nov/08 Dec
FSW-O	Mrudul	06 Nov	11 Nov				NDVO	07 Dec
FSW-O	rebelhero	06 Nov	28 Nov	IP	09 Dec			22 Dec
FSW-O	ash_rock	06 Nov	12 Nov	IP	Nov 25		NDVO	06 Dec
CEC	xi	06 Nov	25 Nov	IP	Dec 25				Schedule A requested on 7th December and submitted on 10th Dec.
FSW-O	Nishant2201	06 Nov	11 Nov	NN			NDVO		Received a phone call from NDVO on 24 November - Details asked were basic details on application.
FSW-O	jim.avi	07 Nov	29 Nov
PNP-O	vivekskumar8544	07 Nov	10 Nov	NN	02 Dec
PNP-O	sushsub	07 Nov	17 Nov	NN	19 Nov				IELTS TRF requested on 9 Nov.
FSW-I	chunka-tuna	07 Nov	01 Dec	IP/NN/IP2	01 Dec/02 Dec/07 Jan			13 Jan
CEC	lifeisgood99	07 Nov	30 Nov						Schedule A requested on December 06
PNP-O	vencentdsouza	08 Nov	17 Nov	NN	19 Nov
PNP-O	jammin24	08 Nov	16 Nov
CEC	Tala_08	08 Nov	01 Dec	IP	21 Dec				RCMP and Schedule A requested on 01 Dec. Submitted on 21 Dec.
PNP-I	UReginahopeful	09 Nov	05 Dec	IP	05 Dec
PNP-O	greatisthyfaithfulness	09 Nov	15 Nov
CEC	vishal23489	09 Nov	05 Dec	IP/NN	05 Dec/17 Jan
FSW-O	mohitkoladia	09 Nov	NN/IP	26 Dec/11 Jan
PNP-O	Ahmad Shqair	09 Nov
CEC	graci	09 Nov	02 Dec	IP	02 Dec
PNP-I	GodBlessUsAll	09 Nov		NN	14 Dec
PNP-I	A.Syed1	09 Nov
CEC	harish_s_ampeo	10 Nov	05 Dec	IP	05 Dec
PNP-O	patnikrishna	10 Nov	16 Nov	NN	23 Nov
PNP-I	john stark	10 Nov	07 Dec	IP	07 Dec				ECA requested on 06 Dec and submitted on 13 Dec. RCMP PCC requested on 16 Dec.
XXXX	beogradjanin1	10 Nov	09 Dec	IP	09 Dec				IMM5406 requested on 12 Dec.
PNP-O	Mayur553	10 Nov	15 Nov
FSW-O	smilingsurya	11 Nov	08 Dec	IP	08 Dec
FSW-O	Managerchap	11 Nov	03 Jan	NN	04 Jan
PNP-O	knightkax	11 Nov	15 Nov
PNP-O	ross1980	11 Nov
PNP-I	jwahba	11 Nov	06 Dec	IP	07 Dec				Schedule A requested on December 6. Ordered GCMS notes on Dec 29.
XXXX	cool1234	11 Nov	06 Dec						Schedule A requested on 11 Nov and provided on 27 Nov.
CEC	spearmint	12 Nov
FSW-O	spikegin	12 Nov	13 Dec						Received Schedule A request for spouse on 13 Dec. Submitted the same on 14 Dec.
PNP-I	santoshCEC	12 Nov
PNP-O	Donakinzo	13 Nov	16 Nov	NN/IP	24 Nov/23 Dec				Received Schedule A request on 24 Nov.
PNP-O	alya2905	13 Nov	16 Nov	NN	01 Dec
PNP-O	ashpkgo70	13 Nov	17 Nov
FSW-O	shariq123	13 Nov	16 Nov	IP	16 Dec		LVO	20 Dec	Saudi PCC requested on 16 Nov and submitted on 01 Dec
FSW-O	Sluffy	13 Nov	15 Nov						Received RPRF request on 05 Jan and paid + uploaded the same on 06 Jan.
PNP-O	gibarino	13 Nov	15 Nov	NN	15 Nov				LOE + IMM 5562E requested for spouse on Nov 22.
FSW-O	Jeremyprayforluck	13 Nov	12 Dec
PNP-O	sammoe	14 Nov	12 Dec						Thailand PCC requested on 18 Dec. Submitted on Dec 29.
PNP-O	moliKT	14 Nov	13 Dec	IP	13 Dec
FSW-O	1212WEST1212	14 Nov	08 Dec
PNP-O	NazSharp	14 Nov	19 Nov
FSW-O	swish003	14 Nov	13 Dec
CEC	wolfskin	14 Nov	14 Dec	IP/NN	14 Dec/15 Dec
FSW-O	RoseEllie6	14 Nov	14 Dec	NN/IP	13 Dec/14 Jan				Received Schedule A request on 13 Dec.
PNP-O	tgman	15 Nov	18 Nov	NN	29 Nov				Received IMM5562E request on 25 Nov. Schedule A and Schedule 4 request received on 22 Dec.
PNP-O	Surbhigurpreet	15 Nov	21 Nov	NN	24 Nov
FSW-O	jamezmoran	15 Nov	16 Nov				LVO	21 Dec	Schedule A requested on 17 Nov.
FSW-O	Ronnie16	15 Nov	17 Nov	IP	03 Jan		NDVO	10 Jan
PNP-O	Ranveer.35	15 Nov	18 Nov
PNP-O	cool2409	15 Nov	19 Nov	NN
PNP-O	royce110	16 Nov	18 Nov	NN	25 Nov
FSW-I	pratik1216	16 Nov	14 Dec	IP	14 Dec
FSW-O	sanha1	16 Nov	18 Nov	NN	22 Nov
PNP-O	canada_aspirant_15	16 Nov	18 Nov	NN	25 Nov				Schedule A request on November 25.
PNP-I	sisia	16 Nov	18 Nov	NN	25 Nov				Schedule A request on November 25.
FSW-O	NAFTAman	16 Nov	14 Dec	NN/IP	22 Nov/16 Dec
CEC	andrewhl	16 Nov	20 Dec
FSW-O	fdias	16 Nov	14 Dec
PNP-O	tolexy	17 Nov
PNP-I	rama15mohan	17 Nov	19 Nov	IP	19 Nov				RCMP PCC request received on 21 Nov. RCMP uploaded on 13 Dec.
PNP-O	Canada2425	17 Nov	18 Nov
PNP-O	Anun	17 Nov
PNP-I	tfeddy2012	17 Nov
CEC	AnshulAwasthi	18 Nov	03 Jan	IP	03 Jan				Schedule A requested on 03 Jan and submitted the same on 04 Jan.
CEC	Esha Sri	18 Nov
PNP-I	KrispyKreamKonnoisseur	19 Nov	07 Jan	IP	07 Jan
PNP-O	nitinmall	19 Nov	24 Nov	NN
PNP-O	CPRaspirant	19 Nov	26 Nov	NN	15 Dec
FSW-O	sodapop123	20 Nov	31 Dec	NS/IP	06 Jan/16 Jan
FSW-O	Kariboo	20 Nov	18 Dec	IP	17 Jan
PNP-O	Sarah87	20 Nov	24 Nov	NN	06 Dec
PNP-O	workharder	20 Nov	26 Nov	NN
FSW-O	Dedicated	21 Nov	29 Nov	NN	06 Dec		Paris VO		IMM5562E request received on 29 Nov.
PNP-I	paraphernalia77	21 Nov	12 Jan	IP	12 Jan
CEC-O	anti_maniac	21 Nov	12 Jan	IP	17 Jan
PNP-O	renne9009	21 Nov
PNP-O	frankiefun	22 Nov
FSW-O	craigc	22 Nov	23 Nov						Received Singapore PCC request on 28 Nov.
PNP-O	kulyoma	22 Nov	01 Dec
XXXX	sm19151089	22 Nov	30 Nov
PNP-I	mortywaves	22 Nov	12 Jan	IP	12 Jan
CEC	Sara92	22 Nov	12 Jan
FSW-O	rewt321	22 Nov	12 Jan
CEC	nikhil.bhatia	24 Nov	17 Jan	IP	17 Jan
FSW-O	rafzy	24 Nov	30 Nov	NN/IP	02 Dec/16 Dec				RPRF request received on 19 Dec
PNP-O	jas1988	24 Nov	18 Jan
PNP-I	SNS76	24 Nov
PNP-O	navreen	24 Nov	14 Dec	IP	14 Dec
PNP-O	mayu2605	24 Nov	17 Jan	IP	17 Jan
FSW-O	shoxdid	24 Nov	27 Nov				HKVO	05 Jan	Dutch PCC requested.
CEC	rd160309	24 Nov							Received CELPIP request for self and spouse on 16 Jan. Received RCMP fingerprints request for spouse on 17 Jan.
PNP-O	Pharmadr_ahmed	24 Nov		NN	29 Nov
PNP-O	Lakluki	24 Nov		NN	26 Nov				Schedule A requested on 29 Nov and submitted on 01 Dec. RPRF requested on 14 Dec.
CEC	kg8986	24 Nov	13 Jan	IP	17 Jan					RCMP PCC requested for spouse on 17 Jan.
PNP-O	tyzia	25 Nov	28 Nov	NN	02 Dec
PNP-O	H O N E S T	25 Nov	30 Nov	NN	01 Dec
PNP-O	Ajku	25 Nov	25 Nov
PNP-O	mawcanada	25 Nov	01 Dec						Schedule A requested on 04 Jan
PNP-O	thiagoch	25 Nov	12 Dec	NN	13 Dec
PNP-O	JMD999	25 Nov	30 Nov						RPRF request received on 14 Dec.
PNP-O	maindola	25 Nov	XX Nov						RPRF request received on 16 Dec. Additional documents (?) provided on 5 December.
XXXX	veritas	26 Nov
CEC	Aumer	26 Nov	16 Jan	IP	16 Jan
PNP-I	roy_anup132	26 Nov
PNP-I	sms_1190	27 Nov	17 Jan	IP	17 Jan
PNP-O	hb_rashidy	28 Nov	01 Dec	NN	12 Dec
PNP-O	lionhearth	28 Nov
FSW-O	AK_canada	29 Nov	30 Nov	NN	08 Dec				IMM5562E requested on 2nd Dec.
PNP-I	Apoorv	29 Nov
PNP-I	greysky1866	29 Nov	06 Dec	NN	27 Dec
PNP-I	GK33	29 Nov
PNP-I	GK33	29 Nov
PNP-I	Apoorv	29 Nov
PNP-O	Rob2K	30 Nov	01 Dec	NN	06 Dec
XXXX	icanada@12345	30 Nov
PNP-I	SSSahaj	30 Nov
XXXX	Sandy_2727	30 Nov
FSW-O	anujm2000	30 Nov
FSW-O	Valentineds	30 Nov

tolexy · Jan 16, 2017

rafzy said:
its requested based on your history by CIO ottawa and not by LVO.

also, its not part of document check-list

Thanks rafzy for the response but can this suggest my application is being processed at CIO ottawa or is just part of preliminary process before moving file to LVO.

rajkamalmohanram · Jan 16, 2017

tolexy said:
Thanks rafzy for the response but can this suggest my application is being processed at CIO ottawa or is just part of preliminary process before moving file to LVO.

The latter (likely).

ccar · Jan 16, 2017

Hi all,
I just logged into my account. Now the BackGround Check changed to Not Needed. But i didnt receive any email. AOR received on 2nd Nov.
Now it looks like this:
Application/profile status Open
Review of eligibility Review in Progress
Review of medical results Passed
Review of submitted documents No additional documents are needed at this time
Scheduling an interview Not needed at this time
A background check is needed From In Progress ->>> Not needed at this time
Final decision Not Started

rafzy · Jan 16, 2017

tolexy said:
Thanks rafzy for the response but can this suggest my application is being processed at CIO ottawa or is just part of preliminary process before moving file to LVO.

Just initial checks of your application are going on at CIO.

Kariboo · Jan 16, 2017

Hi everybody,

Thanks for all the information you share. This forum is an incredible source of collective intelligence. It helped me a lot ;D. My husband (PA) and I applied on November 20th. I would be glad to share our information with you and to be added to the list.

Here is our timeline and details.

We are 5 people on the application (2 adults and 3 kids). Don't know if it has any impact...
We live in France.
Invitation : 2 november (472 points)
Stream FSW-O
AOR : 20 november

Application/profile status Open
Review of eligibility Review in Progress
Review of medical results Passed (18/12)
Review of submitted documents No additional documents are needed at this time
Scheduling an interview Not needed at this time
A background check is needed Not needed at this time
Final decision Not Started

I hope we will have good news soon...

Have a good day/afternoon/evening !

spikegin · Jan 16, 2017

Hi ,

Can you update my details ?

Meds passed : 13th December
Additional doc request : FBI PCC for spouse 13th december.
Additional doc submitted: 14 th January

FSW-outland.
EaPR date : 13th November.

Cheers!!

Aumer · Jan 16, 2017

Guys any comments on what updates should I expect and when?

I am very happy to see that "Review of submitted documents" got updated to no additional docs are needed at this time or was it like this even before :-\ (don't remember now -unfortunately"). Even more happy to see Medical Passed as my BP was shooting during tests.

Updated bold today: 16.1.2017

Where is this application? Details Help
Application/profile status Open Help
Review of eligibility Review in Progress Help
Review of medical results Passed Help
Review of submitted documents No additional documents are needed at this time Help
Scheduling an interview Not needed at this time Help
A background check is needed In Progress Help
Final decision Not Started Help

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