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sshehab said:
Dears,
till now I can't find any official statement saying there will be no FSWP for 2014, anyone got something rather that?

It's unlikely there will be an official statement. This isn't something CIC has done in the past. Instead, they have simply announced when a program will re-open next. And for FSW they have already done this by announcing EOI starting January 2015.
 
sshehab said:
Dears,
till now I can't find any official statement saying there will be no FSWP for 2014, anyone got something rather that?
As I said in the other thread, there doesn't have to be a statement saying something will not happen. There only needs to be a statement saying that it will happen, and there isn't one....
 
zardoz said:
As I said in the other thread, there doesn't have to be a statement saying something will not happen. There only needs to be a statement saying that it will happen, and there isn't one....

I think it's actually the other way around. MI-8 mentioned that, unless otherwise specified, we can assume that the next intake period will go from May 1 to April 30 each year, and unless otherwise specified, a maximum of 6,000 FSW applications will be considered each year.

A maximum of 6 000 new complete applications submitted for the Federal Skilled Worker Class, without an offer of arranged employment, will be considered for processing PER 12-MONTH PERIOD. The maximum of 6 000 new complete applications is allocated as follows:

A maximum of 5 000 applications will be considered for processing under an occupation list stream. Within the 5 000 cap, a maximum of 300 applications submitted for each eligible occupation set out below will be considered for processing each year; and
A maximum of 1 000 applications will be considered for processing under a PhD student/graduate stream each year.

For further clarity, there is no limit on the number of new applications with offers of arranged employment that will be considered for processing.

In calculating the caps, applications will be considered in order of the date they are received. Applications received on the same date will be considered for processing having regard to routine office procedures.

For the unique purpose of calculating the caps, the cap year will begin on May 4, 2013, and end on April 30, 2014, unless otherwise indicated in a future Ministerial Instruction. SUBSEQUENT years will be calculated from May 1 to April 30, unless otherwise indicated in a future Ministerial Instruction.

http://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2013/2013-05-04/html/notice-avis-eng.html#di1

So far, we have not had any ministerial instructions instructing otherwise, so I think it's safe to assume that FSWP will continue this year, unless something will be announced within the next couple of weeks indicating its cancellation.
 
We have received the "otherwise indicated" with the announcement of "Express Entry" on 8th April...

This assumes of course, that "EE" isn't going to run in parallel with "FSWP", instead of being the replacement that everyone is expecting...
 
zardoz said:
We have received the "otherwise indicated" with the announcement of "Express Entry" on 8th April...

This assumes of course, that "EE" isn't going to run in parallel with "FSWP", instead of being the replacement that everyone is expecting...

You're right. If EE is meant to be a replacement for PNP, FSWP, CEC and FSTP, then that announcement would effectively indicate that they would not accept any more FSWP applications starting this year (though technically, it would need to be a ministerial instruction that indicated the cancellation of the program).

I wonder though, Express Entry may still possibly be something that runs in parallel of the four economic streams, and this seems to be indicated by the April 8 announcement:

Qualified applicants can expect faster processing times of six months or less when invited to come to Canada in four key economic streams: the Federal Skilled Worker Program, Federal Skilled Trades Program, Canadian Experience Class, and a portion of the PNP.

http://news.gc.ca/web/article-en.do?crtr.sj1D=&crtr.mnthndVl=12&mthd=advSrch&crtr.dpt1D=6664&nid=836509&crtr.lc1D=&crtr.tp1D=1&crtr.yrStrtVl=2008&crtr.kw=&crtr.dyStrtVl=26&crtr.aud1D=&crtr.mnthStrtVl=2&crtr.page=1&crtr.yrndVl=2014&crtr.dyndVl=31

I wonder if Express Entry would be similar with PNP (only this time, it's Canada-wide), in the sense that applicants can apply to be included in the pool of entries, then anyone selected will be invited to apply either under FSWP, CEC, PNP or FSTP (and processed much faster), and at the same time, each of these four economic streams will still be individually available with its own eligibility criteria.

But of course, if EE is meant to completely replace the current economic streams, then the only way applicants can qualify for immigration through economic streams is through invitation by employer (i.e. job offer), and that would mean the majority of people who would have otherwise qualified under FSWP would no longer be eligible to apply...
 
The backgrounder at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/backgrounders/2013/2013-10-28b.asp uses words like "switch" and "transition". It's for this reason that people are suspecting it to be a replacement instead of an addition. We shall have to see what happens...
 
meyakanor said:
You're right. If EE is meant to be a replacement for PNP, FSWP, CEC and FSTP, then that announcement would effectively indicate that they would not accept any more FSWP applications starting this year (though technically, it would need to be a ministerial instruction that indicated the cancellation of the program).

I wonder though, Express Entry may still possibly be something that runs in parallel of the four economic streams, and this seems to be indicated by the April 8 announcement:

I wonder if Express Entry would be similar with PNP (only this time, it's Canada-wide), in the sense that applicants can apply to be included in the pool of entries, then anyone selected will be invited to apply either under FSWP, CEC, PNP or FSTP (and processed much faster), and at the same time, each of these four economic streams will still be individually available with its own eligibility criteria.

But of course, if EE is meant to completely replace the current economic streams, then the only way applicants can qualify for immigration through economic streams is through invitation by employer (i.e. job offer), and that would mean the majority of people who would have otherwise qualified under FSWP would no longer be eligible to apply...

I think once you are accepted in the pool you can be selected to apply for any kind of Visa

- based on your points, for example over 140 get selected
- based on a job offer
- based on a provincial nomination

isnt that basically how skillselect works?
 
Its unfortunate and sad but most probably all of our hardwork on WES/IELTS/Paper-work/Dreams/Sleep-less nights to get letters will be a WASTE along with all the money agencies have eaten up if FSW 2014 is not opening up :(
 
dream16 said:
Its unfortunate and sad but most probably all of our hardwork on WES/IELTS/Paper-work/Dreams/Sleep-less nights to get letters will be a WASTE along with all the money agencies have eaten up if FSW 2014 is not opening up :(
The situation is that we have NO information on what is going to happen on May 1st. Until CIC clarify, all we do know is that the FSWP for 2013 is closing in a few days.
 
dream16 said:
Its unfortunate and sad but most probably all of our hardwork on WES/IELTS/Paper-work/Dreams/Sleep-less nights to get letters will be a WASTE along with all the money agencies have eaten up if FSW 2014 is not opening up :(

Yes it is. Many folks may have to reappear for IELTS, some conditions like IELTS validity is only for 2 years are ridiculous
 
Based on this article, "Offering "Express Entry" to Qualified Economic Immigrants - Actively Recruiting Talented Newcomers For the Benefit of Canada's Economy" on newswire, the idea behind express entry is to remove the "first come first severed" PR policy and restructuring to "most qualified" ranking system in the application processing time. So, it seems that all other streams will be active, but the processing times for everyone will be different based on credentials.