Exclusion order while waiting?

[Help22]

Thank u eminem_n_rihanna I intend to stay humble. U are a very positive person.

 

[Help22]

Clearly states u DO NOT NEED STATUS. DOESNT STATE WHETHER U APPLY OUTLAND OR INLAND. JUST FOR THOSE OF YOU SENDING PRIVATE MESSAGES.


Effective August 1, 2014, Citizenship and Immigration Canada has changed its definition of a dependent child for its immigration programs. A dependent child must be under 19 years of age, instead of the previous limit of under 22 years of age. Find out more about the change in the definition of a dependent child. New application kits, forms and fee information are now available. These new forms must be used starting August 1, 2014. Use this web tool to determine how your application may be affected.
You can apply to sponsor your spouse, common-law or conjugal partner, or dependent children to immigrate to Canada. It does not matter if they live in or outside Canada. If they live in Canada, they do not need to have legal status to be sponsored.

Your family member must have medical, criminal and background checks. If they have a criminal record or are a risk to Canada’s security, they may not be allowed to enter Canada.

They may have to get a police certificate in their home country. The instruction guides explain medical, criminal and background checks.

Sponsoring a spouse, partner or dependent child
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[Ponga]

Clearly states u DO NOT NEED STATUS. DOESNT STATE WHETHER U APPLY OUTLAND OR INLAND. JUST FOR THOSE OF YOU SENDING PRIVATE MESSAGES.


Effective August 1, 2014, Citizenship and Immigration Canada has changed its definition of a dependent child for its immigration programs. A dependent child must be under 19 years of age, instead of the previous limit of under 22 years of age. Find out more about the change in the definition of a dependent child. New application kits, forms and fee information are now available. These new forms must be used starting August 1, 2014. Use this web tool to determine how your application may be affected.
You can apply to sponsor your spouse, common-law or conjugal partner, or dependent children to immigrate to Canada. It does not matter if they live in or outside Canada. If they live in Canada, they do not need to have legal status to be sponsored.

Your family member must have medical, criminal and background checks. If they have a criminal record or are a risk to Canada's security, they may not be allowed to enter Canada.

They may have to get a police certificate in their home country. The instruction guides explain medical, criminal and background checks.

Sponsoring a spouse, partner or dependent child
Definitions
Also in this topic
Determine your eligibility
Apply
Check processing times
After you apply: get next steps
Prepare for arrival

This ONLY pertains to an Inland application. There's nothing written anywhere (that I know of) that outlines what happens is the person submits an Outland application from within Canada if they are out of status.

The overwhelming majority of people say that the Inland application is a safer way to go and even lawyers say that Inland is the ONLY way to go, but...there have been at least two people here that have been approved with an Outland application. If it were really a simple choice that offered the same protection, why would anyone apply Inland? Think about that for a minute.

You finally applied, which is great! Now, all you can do is wait.

 

[Help22]

Decided to withdraw my outland and go inland.

 

[Ponga]

Wise move, IMHO.

Now you can definitely breath easier!

It will be a long road, but with each passing day you're [finally] one step closer to getting what you and your family need!

 

[Help22]

Yes ponga it's too much of a risk for my son. Thanks for putting up with me. I do have a question about health insurance

 

[Ponga]

Yes ponga it's too much of a risk for my son. Thanks for putting up with me. I do have a question about health insurance

I'm happy to help.

 

[Help22]

Thank you can I pay for some to help me with health care so if I need to go to a hospital i could help me

 

[SenoritaBella]

Hmm... what do you mean? Help pay the premiums(for instance) and then use the person's card if you are sick? If my interpretation is correct, no you can not. That will be fraud.

Apart from getting private insurance yourself, only your partner can add you to their health benefits package at work but in most cases, you need to have provincial health coverage for him to do that. Are you able to get insurance from the UK?

Check Bluecross, Great West Life, etc to see if you can get coverage.

Thank you can I pay for some to help me with health care so if I need to go to a hospital i could help me

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Decided to withdraw my outland and go inland.

I would just leave the outland app to process and live your life. There is little chance that CBSA will come knocking on your door and you will be a PR in a year or less.

An inland application is not a surefire guarantee against removal; there have been inland applicants removed from Canada before.

 

[Help22]

Senorirabella I have been paying my health care since I came here it's costs me thousand. I have worked illegally never taken anything from a Canadian. God I would never use a health care card of someone else. That's looking for trouble. I would just like to be safe and pay my way.

Canuck_in_uk I have always valued your opinion part of me wants to see this outland app through but fear is taking over me. I would loose everything my house etc...

Is cic the ones who would contact CBSA in order to get me and what reasons would they do that

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Canuck_in_uk I have always valued your opinion part of me wants to see this outland app through but fear is taking over me. I would loose everything my house etc...

Is cic the ones who would contact CBSA in order to get me and what reasons would they do that

I would understand if an inland app was a 100% guarantee against removal but it's not.

No one really tell you if CIC will tell CBSA or if CBSA will take action. There have been a few people out of status who've applied outland recently without any issues.

At the end of the day, if CBSA becomes aware, it's not an immediate "Get out". You have a Canadian child and a Canadian partner and CBSA doesn't like splitting up Canadian families. Your partner can ask his MP to intervene or even go to the media.

 

[Ponga]

I would understand if an inland app was a 100% guarantee against removal but it's not.

No one really tell you if CIC will tell CBSA or if CBSA will take action. There have been a few people out of status who've applied outland recently without any issues.

At the end of the day, if CBSA becomes aware, it's not an immediate "Get out". You have a Canadian child and a Canadian partner and CBSA doesn't like splitting up Canadian families. Your partner can ask his MP to intervene or even go to the media.

I asked a hypothetical question based on this story the last time I spoke to a Call Centre agent, citing that there has been much debate over this. The agent seemed very knowledgeable (hey...I got lucky) and was very adamant that a person without status should NOT submit an Outland application. The Inland application still offers the most protection for those without status.

I also agree that CBSA probably doesn't want to split-up a family, especially if the person without status has simply overstayed. Their focus seems to be on failed refugee claimants or those with criminality issues as a higher priority. Those that have overstayed are the `Non-criminal', level 4 priority on their list.

If the OP has only recently submitted the Outland application, it's probably a good idea to switch to Inland. If it's been > a few months...that's a tough call.

 

[Ponga]

This is something from an immigration lawyer:
http://visamadeeasy.ca/cbsa-enforcement-interview/

How can you stop your removal from Canada?

If you have a pending application, it might defer your removal from Canada temporarily. These are the applications that might delay your removal from Canada until a final decision is made:

an inland spousal sponsorship that was submitted before your received a notice for an enforcement interview to complete a Pre-Removal Risk Assessment Application;

a humanitarian and compassionate application that was submitted in a timely manner (at least 6-12 months before you are asked to leave Canada usually);

...

Since it doesn't just say "a spousal sponsorship application", that would certainly imply that submitting an Outland application is not advised, right?
Surely this lawyer is aware that a person in Canada has the option to submit an Outland application, but those without status really should submit Inland.


As informative as this forum is, when it comes to something as serious as this, it really does require speaking with someone that really knows what the best option is. I still think that the OP should have someone call CBSA (from a public phone) and just find out what the real answer is!

 

[Help22]

Well I feel out of my depth here. My application has only been in a few weeks. I have read that article ponga. It does mention the inland application deferring the removal it also says having a child in school may also defer it. My son is in school. Oh what to do I am giving myself till Monday to decide