Peace65 said:
Hello
This forum is at times means of satisfaction and at other times depression !
But I would say its a great forum to direct to.My time line
Pr card renewal sent August 24 2015
File came back February 2016 for new photos as specification changed
Sent required photos next day
Processing started march 2016
Secondary review March 21 2016
My concern was why that long gap from August until Feburary for the document which was not even my mistake , it was just their photo specifications changed and we suffered and suffering until now
Peace65 said:
Depenabil very well said statements , u finally solved my queries but does it mean that people like us who suffered with secondary review are also in the same boat for citizenship application which I am almost due
. Spending 3 1/2 years continuously and not seeing aging parents for that long is really a painful situation
Caveat: I am not an expert. And, indeed, there are more than a few participants here who disagree with at least some of my observations. For example, more than a few appear to think that the Secondary Review process is relatively the same for all those SR'd, and thus, for example, the determination is essentially pursuant to a first-come, first-served procedure.
In contrast, I am certain that SR is a
fact-based, criteria-driven process, and as such that what actually happens in the individual SR'd case is very specific to that case, since the facts and circumstances and history of the PR involved are very specific to that PR. That, for example, time lines in individual cases vary greatly.
A lot of what happens in the individual case is dependent on the reason why that individual was referred to SR. And those reasons vary from person to person. Most reasons are related to suspicions of misrepresentation, but not all. Doubt about compliance with the PR Residency Obligation does not appear to be the focus of SR, but many of those SR'd are indeed PRs who have, at the least, cut it close relative to complying with the PR RO.
I offer this background, which is largely a reminder, because what might be expected in the citizenship application process will likewise vary considerably from one PR to another, and this includes PR's who have recently been involved in SR when applying for a PR card. That is, the facts and circumstances in the individual PR's case matter. That is mostly what matters. So how it goes for one will depend on that PR's facts and circumstances, and how it goes for a different PR will depend on the facts and circumstances in that PR's particular case.
As I often say: It depends.
If the concerns IRCC had leading to SR have been resolved, that could actually have a positive impact on how things go in processing a citizenship application.
In contrast, if there are still outstanding concerns or doubts or questions, those concerns or doubts or questions are likely to still cause problems in processing a citizenship application.
Peace65 said:
Spending 3 1/2 years continuously and not seeing aging parents for that long is really a painful situation
Just because a PR has a PR card application in SR
does NOT prohibit travel abroad.
So long as you have met the PR RO and have otherwise been playing by the rules,
you should be able to visit your aging parents.
Yes, traveling abroad will be more inconvenient since a PR needs either a PR card or a PR Travel Document to return to Canada (generally, with exceptions). But a PR in SR should be able to apply for and obtain a PR TD while abroad. This is less convenient in some destinations around the world, but there have been enough anecdotal reports to show that qualified PRs can
routinely obtain a PR TD in most parts of the world.
I would guess that more immigrants are practically precluded from visiting aging parents in the home country due to personal commitments and limited financial resources. By far. It is a big deal to go to a new country and make a life for oneself in that new country. It is a decision with profound consequences. And making that life in the new country can be challenging. Life can be hard enough for many just trying to get on their feet and be established. Jobs can often make it difficult to visit loved ones who are just in another province let alone alone another country.
In any event, if you have been in Canada three plus years, and playing by the rules, there should be no serious obstacle to visiting aging parents abroad and obtaining a PR TD for the trip back to Canada. Some inconvenience, yes, and be sure to take some proof of your time in Canada to submit with the PR TD application, but for legitimate PRs the difficulty of doing this tends to be greatly exaggerated.
