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Email from CIC that PR card renewal needs secondary review

AJK_9

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Jun 30, 2012
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masha88 said:
Hi, guys! I have applied for the renewal of my PR card on November 4, 2014, on the February 20th, 2015 I got request for copy of passport pages (which had been sent originally with the whole package). I sent them right away..and then my file was sent for a second review..still haven't heard nothing from CIC. I have been in Canada for 1000 days, so I fulfill my residency obligation. What do you think is the matter? Is there any time frame? I need to travel in May and I don't know what to do at this point.. Thanks for your advice
Hi

Did you send all the pages of passport/color copy ? Did they requested anything else except passport ?

But if you are here for more than 830+ days and have all the documents to prove, nothing to worry.

There is no timeline for secondary review...ranging from 6-12 months, I applied in March 2015, sent for secondary review and sent all the documents in August 2015...still no status

All the best
 

daisy178

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May 21, 2015
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" Applied in March 2014, sent for secondary review and sent all the documents in August 2014...still no status" ,It is almost two years just for PR card renewal! What the CIC are doing all these days?

I sentmy application on Feb,2015,and got secondary review letter on 2nd, April,2015 and got no reply till now. :'( :( I am thinking of renouncing my PR status and apply for tourist visa.
 

malayalee

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May 27, 2015
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Hi "AJK_9"...

Did you mean 2014 or 2015...if you really mean 2014,its almost 2 years now and im afraid you may have to seriously follow up with CIC. After months of reading this blog, this is of a first case im a learning about yours. Almost most of them received the PR card with in a year. Good luck
 

AJK_9

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malayalee said:
Hi "AJK_9"...

Did you mean 2014 or 2015...if you really mean 2014,its almost 2 years now and im afraid you may have to seriously follow up with CIC. After months of reading this blog, this is of a first case im a learning about yours. Almost most of them received the PR card with in a year. Good luck
Sorry, it's 2015, it's typing mistake
 

masha88

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Jan 13, 2016
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AJK_9 said:
Hi

Did you send all the pages of passport/color copy ? Did they requested anything else except passport ?

But if you are here for more than 830+ days and have all the documents to prove, nothing to worry.

There is no timeline for secondary review...ranging from 6-12 months, I applied in March 2015, sent for secondary review and sent all the documents in August 2015...still no status

All the best
No they didn't request anything else, just passport pages (which they already had). I sent it right away (March 2015) and didn't hear anything since. Do you know the longest it took for second review to be completed? I'm really concerned about my trip in may...:(
 

mom2chthjael

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Mar 21, 2015
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I applied for my renewal in January 2015, they started processing March 23rd 2015 and since then no news, no requests, nothing at all. I called once in May and the lady told me it could take up to 1 year but never no notice about secondary review neither? This is my 4th renewal and never did it take this long before!
 

Beaverdiva

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Aug 5, 2013
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England
Category........
Visa Office......
London, UK
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23/07/2015
AOR Received.
AOR 26/08/2015. SA 28/09/2015. In Process on eCAS - 6/10/2015
File Transfer...
29/09/2015
Med's Request
UPFRONT. Medical Results Received 14/10/15
Med's Done....
06/07/2015
Passport Req..
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
Decision Made 09/12/2015, COPR arrived 15/1/16 deadline to land 7/7/16
LANDED..........
7-06-2016
Hi, I'm new to this topic and asking on my husband's behalf. If a third line is added ecas saying they sent him a letter is that a sign that he will be interviewed? He was 800 + days in Canada when he applied for renewal back in July.
thanks.
 

heeradeepak

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Jun 1, 2014
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Beaverdiva said:
Hi, I'm new to this topic and asking on my husband's behalf. If a third line is added ecas saying they sent him a letter is that a sign that he will be interviewed? He was 800 + days in Canada when he applied for renewal back in July.
thanks.
it looks like CIC officer in Sydney was lazy and not able to make a decision so he forward his file to local office for further investigation it mean 2-3 months more delay. But no need to worry if he meet the requirement after interview they will clear the file.
 

ken2015

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May 28, 2015
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I have applied in August 2014, went for secondary review in Jan 2015. Called Call center and they just said that in August 2015, file again sent for further review & still it is under review. Surprisingly they didn't ask me to submit any additional or missing information. Just wondering if there is anybody in the forum who is suffering from same time line as mine.
Regards,
Ken
 

Beaverdiva

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Aug 5, 2013
226
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England
Category........
Visa Office......
London, UK
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23/07/2015
AOR Received.
AOR 26/08/2015. SA 28/09/2015. In Process on eCAS - 6/10/2015
File Transfer...
29/09/2015
Med's Request
UPFRONT. Medical Results Received 14/10/15
Med's Done....
06/07/2015
Passport Req..
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
Decision Made 09/12/2015, COPR arrived 15/1/16 deadline to land 7/7/16
LANDED..........
7-06-2016
heeradeepak said:
it looks like CIC officer in Sydney was lazy and not able to make a decision so he forward his file to local office for further investigation it mean 2-3 months more delay. But no need to worry if he meet the requirement after interview they will clear the file.
Okay thank you. I'm not sure if it's connected to the fact that he has just sponsored me. I received COPR on Friday so presumably they don't have any issues with his PR status.
This is so stressful, he's booked a flight to come and help me pack up the house in February and now it looks like he won't be able to because of additional delays.
I feel like crying.
 

malayalee

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May 27, 2015
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Hi "ken2015",
As you said you applied in 2014 and still waiting?? That means almost 18 months and still waiting.....this is too much dear.. I am almost in similar boat.... applied on November 2014 and still waiting. I am feeling like "lost in space"
 

dpenabill

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heeradeepak said:
it looks like CIC officer in Sydney was lazy and not able to make a decision so he forward his file to local office for further investigation it mean 2-3 months more delay. But no need to worry if he meet the requirement after interview they will clear the file.

No. The transfer back to the local office is not about any laziness.

The secondary review in Sydney examines issues like confirming identity and status generally, including whether the PR has an outstanding 44(1) report for non-compliance, has been denied a PR Travel Document, and includes determining if the PR has some other ground for terminating status (such as serious criminality, security concerns, and such), or determining if PR status is otherwise no longer valid. Once these inquiries are complete, and current PR status is confirmed, the application is then returned to the local office. Depending on the facts of the particular case, the local office may deliver the new PR card (which is issued by Sydney), or send a notice to the PR to come to the local office and then conduct a counter interview, or the local office may conduct a full blown residency examination. Actual delivery of the PR card to the PR depends on the outcome of the counter interview or residency examination. Obviously the latter can involve a much, much longer timeline. Additionally, the outcome of the counter interview can be either delivery of the PR card, further assessment, or a full blown residency examination. Assessment as to in-fact compliance with the PR RO (in contrast to assessment based on declarations in application) is generally done by the local office.

Observation about a PR declaring presence in Canada for 800 days: Since such a PR has spent more time living abroad than in Canada, this is obviously a scenario where the application for a new PR card is at significant risk of elevated scrutiny. If there is any doubt at all about where the PR was for any given period of time, the beyond-a-balance-of-probabilities inference is that the PR was where the PR was most of the time . . . which for the PR with less than 900 days presence in Canada, that was abroad, as in NOT in Canada. Thus, such a PR should be prepared to submit proof accordingly, recognizing that the burden of proof is on the PR.

Observation about a PR with an application pending and confident about his or her proof of compliance with the PR Residency Obligation: Assuming the PR has proof of compliance with the PR RO, was in compliance at the time of applying for a new PR card, and has remained in Canada for a significant period of time while the PR card application was pending, such a PR should have little trouble applying for and obtaining a PR Travel Document if and when that PR takes a trip abroad. The PR might ask if it is possible to get an exit stamp when leaving Canada, to conclusively show the date of leaving Canada. Otherwise, if anxious about things, the PR might engage in a specific activity (visit doctor using provincial health care coverage, take something to a notary in Canada to have his signature witnessed and verified) just before leaving which will conclusively document presence in Canada at that date. The PR should carry a reasonable amount of proof of presence in Canada which will show compliance with the PR RO. Schedule the trip to facilitate time to apply for and obtain the PR TD. Unless there is some overt suspicions about the PR this should be quite routine and not a problem.

In other words, in the situation reported by Beaverdiva, the PR spouse in Canada should not have a problem traveling despite not receiving the new PR card yet . . . assuming there is no problem proving the travel declarations made in the PR card application and otherwise proving compliance with the PR RO.
 

heeradeepak

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Jun 1, 2014
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Thanks for taking your valuable time to explain about the process. Everyone have different experience from CIC. My personal feelings that whenever immigration officer start processing of any application PR renewal or citizenship he should complete it if he has any dout in eligibility he should continue the process and ask required documents and after receiving all documents he should make a positives or negative decision. But this is not happening file with secondary review or RQ waiting years for decision and this much delay in process create frustration and fear among the applicants.
 

heeradeepak

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Jun 1, 2014
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Senior members pls help me to understand this situation my application was received in Sydney 11-June-2015, secondary review letter and email received 12-Nov-2015 but ecas is not activated i called CIC twice but they said they dont know why my ecas is not showing up any idea what could be a reason?
 

Richie Robert

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Mar 19, 2013
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Hello all,

1. I have applied for my PR renewal on - 05 June 2015

2. Started processing application and sent my application for second review and was told it would take additional delay on - Nov 5 2015

Still Im not hearing anything back from cic, I called them many times still same reply "we cant say the timeline since its case specific"

My wife is a PR too, I sponsored her.

My mother and brother live in Canada too,

My doubt is can I leave canada, will cic send my PR card to my address and my family members can give it to me when they come to India?

Please advise