Effective date of Bill C24

[CanadianCountry]

MUFC,
Under old law what you are saying is 100% correct. Applicant can leave if he/she wants upon completing physical presence requirement. By leave it even means completely move out but in recent times RQs have been tightening the noose on this issue.

But Different story under new law, physical presence need to be met till you apply, then basic residence has to be met till the oath.

Believe it or not, this is the truth. Hope this helps.

They just want to make sure that the applicants were here enough time before they apply.... after that they can do whatever they like

 

[screech339]

MUFC,
Under old law what you are saying is 100% correct. Applicant can leave if he/she wants upon completing physical presence requirement. By leave it even means completely move out but in recent times RQs have been tightening the noose on this issue.

But Different story under new law, physical presence need to be met till you apply, then basic residence has to be met till the oath.

Believe it or not, this is the truth. Hope this helps.

Thanks for backing me up on this issue. Even though we have had our differences.

 

[MUFC]

The issued RQs are for the period before the submission of the application, nobody will question you about the time after the application is submitted. The focus is again on the time before the application is made.

There is not a single RQ asking anybody about the pending application time.

 

[CanadianCountry]

That is true, the RQs are for relevant period and not post application period. But understand their "game".

What is being done to counter these actions of applicants is, if the CIC considers the applicant left after applying, RQ is issued and the case is non-routine. Non-routine process is stretched as long as possible so that the applicants residency obligations could be called into question.

Hope this helps.

The issued RQs are for the period before the submission of the application, nobody will question you about the time after the application is submitted. The focus is again on the time before the application is made.

There is not a single RQ asking anybody about the pending application time.

 

[MUFC]

Keeping a valid PR card is a common sense too. The applicant should not allow his PRs card to expire without meeting the 2 out of 5 years rule.

The processing time will be shorter because now they have more people and even now the recent RQed applicants are done within a couple months range time.

The problem with the non routine applications and their timings were because of lack of personnel now the situation is way better.

 

[CanadianCountry]

Situation is better in some parts of the country specifically Mississauga. Other parts like prairies,cases are still lingering.

Keeping a valid PR card is a common sense too. The applicant should not allow his PRs card to expire without meeting the 2 out of 5 years rule.

The processing time will be shorter because now they have more people and even now the recent RQed applicants are done within a couple months range time.

The problem with the non routine applications and their timings were because of lack of personnel now the situation is way better.

 

[MUFC]

That are local offices issues, this is different problem.

 

[CanadianCountry]

Local offices are part of the process. You are not done till you are citizenship having taken the oath.

That are local offices issues, this is different problem.

 

[MUFC]

If we are talking about making sure that the applicant will not lose their valid PR status because their local office is slow... no problem I agree with that.

My point of view is towards the applicants with fast local offices, because even if they are RQed they will be done again within couple of months

 

[MUFC]

And again here the problem is the speed of the local office, not because the applicant left the country after the submission of the application.

 

[CanadianCountry]

The onus is on the applicant. According to CIC local office is not at fault if they are slow. The applicant is at fault if he leaves the country and is unable to maintain residency obligations.

And again here the problem is the speed of the local office, not because the applicant left the country after the submission of the application.

 

[MUFC]

The onus is on the applicant. According to CIC local office is not at fault if they are slow. The applicant is at fault if he leaves the country and is unable to maintain residency obligations.

Keeping a valid PR status until the oath, yes I agree 100%, common sense.

 

[screech339]

Keeping a valid PR status until the oath, yes I agree 100%, common sense.

Keeping PR status is not the same thing as maintaining residency in Canada. Does this mean a PR is maintaining residency in Canada while living with a Canadian spouse outside Canada for 5 years. No it doesn't.

 

[MUFC]

When the applicant is with a fast local office he will be done in less than a year for sure, The applicant is free to stay outside of Canada for no more than 6 months and meanwhile his application will be almost done without the requirement to stay the majority of time in Canada...

The applicant will not lose his residency if he apply at the beginning of July and come back at the end of June next year, meanwhile his citizenship will be done.

No problems with his residence abroad

 

[eltorpe]

MUFC,
Under old law what you are saying is 100% correct. Applicant can leave if he/she wants upon completing physical presence requirement. By leave it even means completely move out but in recent times RQs have been tightening the noose on this issue.

But Different story under new law, physical presence need to be met till you apply, then basic residence has to be met till the oath.

Believe it or not, this is the truth. Hope this helps.

Sorry for jumping in late.

I'm not going to take sides here but I do want to point out that the Citizenship Act (amended by Bill C-24) does say this:

Intention

(1.1) For the purposes of paragraphs (1)(c.1) and 11(1)(e), the person's intention must be continuous from the date of his or her application until they have taken the oath of citizenship.

For completeness, this is (1)(c.1):

(c.1) intends, if granted citizenship,
(i) to continue to reside in Canada,
(ii) to enter into, or continue in, employment outside Canada in or with the Canadian Armed Forces, the federal public administration or the public service of a province, otherwise than as a locally engaged person, or
(iii) to reside with his or her spouse or common-law partner or parent, who is a Canadian citizen or permanent resident and is employed outside Canada in or with the Canadian Armed Forces, the federal public administration or the public service of a province, otherwise than as a locally engaged person;

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-29/nifnev.html