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[RAY2112]

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[RAY2112]

Makes Sense.

I put May 25, 2014 to May 27, 2014 as an absence and # of days absence is coming as 1 day. It means CIC is counting May 25 and May 27 as presence in Canada and only May 26 is absence. Under old rules, until yesterday, the absence was 2 days for these days.

I think CIC has aligned the calculation with PR renewal calculation. For PR renenwal, anytime spent in Canada during a day is counted as presence.

 

[rajmalhotra7]

I think this was true even before today - although they didn't explicitly say it.

One of the reasons my husband ended up with RQ was because he failed to declare a day trip to the US (we forgot about it and CIC called us on it).

I agree with you. Earlier, CIC had mentioned that same day trips do NOT to be declared in citizenship application. However, if someone has a lot of day trips and there are stamps on passports (entry US stamps or I-94 stamps) then chances were higher to get an RQ and also it was officer's discretion.

For PR renewal and RQ responses, CIC was asking for same day trips (if I am not wrong, not sure though). Now, I think CIC may have aligned this with PR renewal that everyone declare same day trips for citizenship application as well. To me, it is good because people will keep track of all same day trips now. When my wife applied for citizenship in 2013, we declared same day trips to USA, even though it was not asked in application. We went safer because of plenty of same day trips to USA. However, we missed some same day trips because we never kept record of same day trips, as it was not required for declaration. We captured whatever we could from passport stamps and declared same day trips on Residence Calculator and attached a note that there may be additional 3-4 same day trips to USA for which we do not have dates.

 

[MUFC]

I agree with you. Earlier, CIC had mentioned that same day trips do NOT to be declared in citizenship application. However, if someone has a lot of day trips and there are stamps on passports (entry US stamps or I-94 stamps) then chances were higher to get an RQ and also it was officer's discretion.

For PR renewal and RQ responses (if I am not wrong, not sure though), CIC was asking for same day trips. Now, I think CIC may have aligned this with PR renewal that everyone declare same day trips for citizenship application as well. To me, it is good because people will keep track of all same day trips now. When my wife applied for citizenship in 2013, we declared same day trips to USA, even though it was not asked in application. We went safer because of plenty of same day trips to USA. However, we missed some same day trips because we never kept record of same day trips, as it was not required for declaration. We captured whatever we could from passport stamps and declared on Residence Calculator.

For those who have received RQs in the last years it seem that this reason might have been a pretty common one.

This is another BIG PLUS in the new rules that they clarify this issue.

 

[screech339]

I think CIC has aligned the calculation with PR renewal calculation. For PR renewal, anytime spent in Canada during a day is counted as presence.

Is there an online PR renewal calculator, much like the citizenship calculator?

 

[rajmalhotra7]

Is there an online PR renewal calculator, much like the citizenship calculator?

I don't think they have one, but they should.

 

[MUFC]

Is there an online PR renewal calculator, much like the citizenship calculator?

You can use the citizenship calculator for the purpose of showing you the days of physical presence for the PR issue.

 

[zardoz]

As of this moment, the page at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/adults.asp is still showing the old requirements, even though the date of the page is today's.

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[MUFC]

The people who are eligible today under the new rules still can't apply.

CIC is a big mess at the moment.

 

[RAY2112]

Hi MUFC, have you ever heard a CBSA officer called somebody and asked why he/she requested for Travel History? Thank you

The people who are eligible today under the new rules still can't apply.

CIC is a big mess at the moment.

 

[MUFC]

Hi MUFC, have you ever heard a CBSA officer called somebody and asked why he/she requested for Travel History? Thank you

I've never heard such thing.

 

[punk]

I've never heard such thing.

Just to be clear, if I fly out of Canada to another country is that day counted as day spent in Canada or outside ?
Secondly, the day I fly back, is it counted as day spent inside or outside ?

 

[MUFC]

Just to be clear, if I fly out of Canada to another country is that day counted as day spent in Canada or outside ?
Secondly, the day I fly back, is it counted as day spent inside or outside ?

When I did my calculations with all my 39 entries and exits from Canada , all the days are counted.

For that reason I ended up being eligible much earlier to apply under the new rules then I thought.

In general Very good news for those who travel a lot. 8)

So yeah the day you exit and the days you come back are counted as complete full days of physical presence

 

[CanadianCountry]

Congrats MUFC!

When I did my calculations with all my 39 entries and exits from Canada , all the days are counted.

For that reason I ended up being eligible much earlier to apply under the new rules then I thought.

In general Very good news for those who travel a lot. 8)

So yeah the day you exit and the days you come back are counted as complete full days of physical presence

 

[MUFC]

Congrats MUFC!

Thanks

The funny thing is that anyways I have to postpone my applying because of my vacations plans which this time will be 5 months long for the remaining of that calendar year.

Right now I am eligible to apply after 2 weeks, but if I apply now my application will be processed very fast and they will call me for the test while I am abroad.
My fun time during my vacations is a priority so definitely I will postpone my applying.