EE not asking for PCC; Seniors please help

[jisho]

Document upload section is not asking me to upload PCC for my country of birth which I visit for once country every two to three years. I am being asked PCC just the country that I live in.

Is it because in my profile I did not include my travel or stays in my home country in neither the address history section of the contact details form or in the travel history section of the personal history form?

I did not include visits to my country of birth in the address history section of the contact details form because:
1) I had gone there for vacation and most stays were 30 days or less.
2) My address did not change during these visits.

I did not include visits to my country of birth in travel history section of the personal history form because:
1) The form specifically says, "Provide details of any trips taken outside his/her country of origin or of residence in the last ten years"

Did I miss something or do something wrong? Do I need to include these visits in contact history or personal history or both? I was totally expecting a PCC for my country of origin. Please let me know. Thanks!

 

[DelPiero07]

The new requirement is that a PCC is required if you spent 6 months in a row in a certain country since the age of 18. Is that the case?

 

[jisho]

The new requirement is that a PCC is required if you spent 6 months in a row in a certain country since the age of 18. Is that the case?

Thanks for responding. Yes, I completed my bachelors in my home country and then moved out. It has been more than 10 years that I have moved out of my home country. Just go there for visits every once in a while.

 

[DelPiero07]

Then provide the PCC. If there's no specific placeholder then submit it in the LOE placeholder along with an explanation.

 

[jisho]

Then provide the PCC. If there's no specific placeholder then submit it in the LOE placeholder along with an explanation.

Thanks @DelPiero07. So as there is no placeholder, basically force upload it in the LOE section with an LOE? I have to provide LOE for a couple of other things also, so hopefully it will not be a conflict or get lost in between LOEs.
What do you think about the idea of uploading two PCCs in the same location and providing an LOE fort that?

Also, was my assumption and action correct for these............

I did not include visits to my country of birth in the address history section of the contact details form because:
1) I had gone there for vacation and most stays were 30 days or less.
2) My address did not change during these visits.

I did not include visits to my country of birth in travel history section of the personal history form because:
1) The form specifically says, "Provide details of any trips taken outside his/her country of origin or of residence in the last ten years"

 

[DelPiero07]

You can also upload two PCC's in the same placeholder and provide a LOE. That's fine.

No issue with your address history. Regarding the travel history that's debatable and i'll not get into that. Basically, there are two views in the forum - the one that you have and the one that one must include all travels no matter if it's between country of origin and country of residence. Up to you to decide the approach.

 

[jisho]

You can also upload two PCC's in the same placeholder and provide a LOE. That's fine.

No issue with your address history. Regarding the travel history that's debatable and i'll not get into that. Basically, there are two views in the forum - the one that you have and the one that one must include all travels no matter if it's between country of origin and country of residence. Up to you to decide the approach.

Thank you for being the stress reliever
What is your take on the travel history section? Personally going by just what CIC requires, which is, "Provide details of any trips taken outside his/her country of origin or of residence", I would say it is not required to list visits to your home country.

 

[jisho]

Thank you for being the stress reliever
What is your take on the travel history section? Personally going by just what CIC requires, which is, "Provide details of any trips taken outside his/her country of origin or of residence", I would say it is not required to list visits to your home country.

Just realized you had said you will not get into the travel history thing, so I will leave it at that knowing either way is correct.

 

[jisho]

Is this why the system is not asking me PCC from my country of origin? I was reading the documents required page on IRCC website, when I stumbled upon this.......

My address and personal history has no mention about my country of origin.......

Police certificates
Purpose
To determine if the applicant or their family members have a criminal record or poses a security risk to Canada

Document requirements
According to the requirements below, the system will automatically generate upload fields for the police certificates required. However, it is always at an officer’s discretion to request a new or additional police certificate from the applicant.

• For the applicant’s current country of residence, the police certificate must have been issued no more than six months before the submission of the e-APR.
• For countries in which the applicant no longer resides, the police certificate must have been issued after the last time the applicant lived in that country.
• Police certificates are required up front and are mandatory for each country (except Canada) where an individual has spent six months or more in a row within the last 10 years since the age of 18. This instruction is for the purpose of the completeness check under section R10. Some countries require that the applicant complete a consent form to initiate a police certificate. Refer to the country-specific police certificate page.
• Police certificates need to be a scan of the original police certificate(s) in color. Certified true copies and unauthorized copies are unacceptable and will result in the application being rejected as incomplete.

Think CIC missed an "OR" before the words in blue.

Link:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/permanent-residence/express-entry/applications-received-on-after-january-1-2016-completeness-check.html

 

[jisho]

Based on the info available on CIC website, how many PCCs would the person below need to submit? ?

Suppose a person is as of age 50 today and from age 18-28 he was in country A, from age 28-38 he was in country B, from age 38-48 he was in country C and finally from age 48-50 he is in country D.

I reckon just 1; from country D.

 

[DelPiero07]

Based on the info available on CIC website, how many PCCs would the person below need to submit? ?

Suppose a person is as of age 50 today and from age 18-28 he was in country A, from age 28-38 he was in country B, from age 38-48 he was in country C and finally from age 48-50 he is in country D.

I reckon just 1; from country D.

4.

 

[jisho]

4.

I would submit 4 too just to be on the safe side . If you remember my history, my profile has no placeholder to upload the PCC from my country of birth (probably because I have no mention of my home country either in address or personal history)and you had recommended that I upload this PCC in the LOE upload placeholder. Just to clear the air, I value your opinion and irrespective of what I understand from the website, I will follow the recommended path. I am not questioning that approach.

but just for arguments sake.....the website specifically says "six months or more in a row within the last 10 years since the age of 18." So in the example where the age of the person is 50 as of today:

Age 18-28, staying in country A: PCC not required as last stay in this country was 50-28=22 years ago (outside 10 year window since age 18)
Age 28-38, staying in country B: PCC not required as last stay in this country was 50-38=12 years ago (outside 10 year window since age 18
Age 38-48, staying in country C: PCC required as last stay in this country was 50-48=2 years ago (within 10 year window since age 18)
Age 48-50, current resident of country D: PCC required (within 10 year window since age 18)

I am thinking my profile has no placeholder for my country of birth, because Pers Hist and Addr Hist asks data for a ten year time frame and except for occasional visits I have not been to my home country in the last ten years

 

[DelPiero07]

You know what, I don't know if this was updated recently but the text is definitely different to what it used to be. In that case I would have to agree with you and say only one PCC would be required.

 

[canadalife1234]

I have a question on PPC

I lived in the UK (I am a British Citizen) for around 3 years 2009-2012. I got a PPC from the UK in February 2018, but went to London for business for 2 days in March 2018. Is the validity of the PPC invalid because I re-entered the UK?

 

[jisho]

I have a question on PPC

I lived in the UK (I am a British Citizen) for around 3 years 2009-2012. I got a PPC from the UK in February 2018, but went to London for business for 2 days in March 2018. Is the validity of the PPC invalid because I re-entered the UK?

Based on what is written on CIC website, you would not need another PCC......... Read the highlighted rows (text is copied and pasted from CIC website)......

Police certificates
Purpose
To determine if the applicant or their family members have a criminal record or poses a security risk to Canada

Document requirements
According to the requirements below, the system will automatically generate upload fields for the police certificates required. However, it is always at an officer’s discretion to request a new or additional police certificate from the applicant.

• For the applicant’s current country of residence, the police certificate must have been issued no more than six months before the submission of the e-APR.
• For countries in which the applicant no longer resides, the police certificate must have been issued after the last time the applicant lived in that country.
• Police certificates are required up front and are mandatory for each country (except Canada) where an individual has spent six months or more in a rowwithin the last 10 years since the age of 18. This instruction is for the purpose of the completeness check under section R10. Some countries require that the applicant complete a consent form to initiate a police certificate. Refer to the country-specific police certificate page.
• Police certificates need to be a scan of the original police certificate(s) in color. Certified true copies and unauthorized copies are unacceptable and will result in the application being rejected as incomplete