ECAS: June 2014 Citizenship Applicants (IP & AOR Date)

[rainsplendid]

Hello All,

Let us share and update our status of applications.

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Received: My application was received by CIC-Sydney on June 20;
Shipping: Mailed via Canada Post Xpress;
ECAS: No update yet (Aug 27);
AOR:
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[summer2014]

Did u order Atip report? U should.
My application was received on June23, no Ecas. I odered Atip, it sauid no records of my app.
I will wait another week to confirm w CIC.

 

[maple05]

when i called in the agent was mentioning that there is a possible delay of 6 weeks for some june applicants to be processed.
The agent was not able to explain the reason or whatever.

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Received: My application was received by CIC-Sydney on June 4;
Shipping: Mailed via Canada Post Xpress;
ECAS: No update yet (Aug 27);
AOR:
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[maple05]

Again as for the AITP report i am not sure what that will give.
if an application is in process then it will provide some notes,else if a application is not even opened i dont know what this report will provide.
It is a anxious situation but i think following are possible options.
1)wait for 2 more weeks
2)If still no updates possibly take help from MP to check the status

 

[fanboy]

Again as for the AITP report i am not sure what that will give.
if an application is in process then it will provide some notes,else if a application is not even opened i dont know what this report will provide.
It is a anxious situation but i think following are possible options.
1)wait for 2 more weeks
2)If still no updates possibly take help from MP to check the status

maple05, have you asked your MP to check?
My MP said they will look into my file for me..

 

[zwt10]

Hi all, mine was sent on June 7th and hopefully received on June 13th and until now no update on anything. Just called CIC and they cant find anything, got the same advice to wait 2 more weeks since they're still finishing up opening applications received in the first half of June and if nothing to resend another one with same receipt :-\

 

[Eminem slim shady]

Hello All,

Let us share and update our status of applications.

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Received: My application was received by CIC-Sydney on June 20;
Shipping: Mailed via Canada Post Xpress;
ECAS: No update yet (Aug 27);
AOR:
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Its way way too early to expect anything. Sit tight and wait patiently. Its just been two months since you applied and it hasn't been opened. Ordering an ATIP is not a sensible thing to do, since it hasn't even been opened, never mind processed. Just relax.

 

[goodman36]

It appears reading some of the posts that , some June -2014 applications were misplaced. I am sure by now they are aware of it and are working to clear those out.

If you send your application by Courier and you tracked to find out someone have signed for it, then it should still be there. Some people get a response early, some late. It depends on the Officer / team etc. It is a mystery how CIC works anyway.

Also, usually, if they return an application, it takes about 45 days.

Ordering ATIP, when the CIC can't even find an application OR the ECAS shows In Process only for a month or two - won't provide any helpful information.

Asking an MP's office for help when an application is missing or no progress in application when it has not been more than 6 months In Process status - is a waste of valuable resource I think.

It is a stressful process no doubt. Some people have been waiting 3 years to get their Oath. Eventually, if an Application is COMPLETE and all information / documents provided are honest - then today or tomorrow nothing can prevent one to become a Citizen.

 

[Eminem slim shady]

It appears reading some of the posts that , some June -2014 applications were misplaced. I am sure by now they are aware of it and are working to clear those out.

If you send your application by Courier and you tracked to find out someone have signed for it, then it should still be there. Some people get a response early, some late. It depends on the Officer / team etc. It is a mystery how CIC works anyway.

Also, usually, if they return an application, it takes about 45 days.

Ordering ATIP, when the CIC can't even find an application OR the ECAS shows In Process only for a month or two - won't provide any helpful information.

Asking an MP's office for help when an application is missing or no progress in application when it has not been more than 6 months In Process status - is a waste of valuable resource I think.

It is a stressful process no doubt. Some people have been waiting 3 years to get their Oath. Eventually, if an Application is COMPLETE and all information / documents provided are honest - then today or tomorrow nothing can prevent one to become a Citizen.

You know the problem in this countrys immigration programme is that it lacks great maintenance and monitoring. It only works due to the majority of hard working CIC officials and also if the political winds of force are blowing in that direction, that's all. The ministers , the high ranking officials who make the policy changes only take this as a day job with a wonderful benefits , vacation and pension package and have no sense of seriousness and commitment to actually making CIC work in any basic sensible format.CIC receives more money than other immigration departments worldwide, but their performance is just a straight ZERO! New Zealand for example takes 4 months to process a citizenship application, despite being way more strict, you can apply for N.Z citizenship outside the country, NO interview required unless asked to attend one, you can apply for citizenship in person at various offices, no test required.Your P.R can be endorsed in your foreign passport and they have E-visas, no need for a visa stamp , its all electronic, etc etc Aussie takes approx. 66 days(currently about 80 due to their high number of applications lately) to process citizenship application and has similar features as NZ. I can go on and on....My point is these countries charge close to what CIC charges for services, but they have high tech mechanisms that are completely non existent at CIC, (and never will, )they have similar processes as CIC but have more efficiencies that help deliver citizenship grants to those that are successful in very impressive time frames and the budget allocations in their throne speeches are similar or even smaller(N.Z) but CIC continues to perform dismally. All Minister Alexander will say is, "we passed a new citizenship law, that will take care of it" Yet problems are just mounting each second he says those words over and over. If your car has a flat tire, or needs an oil change or needs a new battery or new stereo, do you just go to a dealership and buy a new car based on those types of problems on your still running car? Why wont he FIX, FIX FIX problems in this current citizenship process already??? Its all big talk from these people, "combatting fraud, closing files, less leniency etc etc" but what the hell has that even done to decrease the processing times by even a two seconds?? NOTHING, ZERO! Just talk, talk talk.I don't think these high educated politicians have a clue on how to rectify these problems, they might as well ask the "like-minded "countries how to run this programme, we are being served by dumb dumbers! Even I could do a better job than this!

 

[brbr]

You know the problem in this countrys immigration programme is that it lacks great maintenance and monitoring. It only works due to the majority of hard working CIC officials and also if the political winds of force are blowing in that direction, that's all. The ministers , the high ranking officials who make the policy changes only take this as a day job with a wonderful benefits , vacation and pension package and have no sense of seriousness and commitment to actually making CIC work in any basic sensible format.CIC receives more money than other immigration departments worldwide, but their performance is just a straight ZERO! New Zealand for example takes 4 months to process a citizenship application, despite being way more strict, you can apply for N.Z citizenship outside the country, NO interview required unless asked to attend one, you can apply for citizenship in person at various offices, no test required.Your P.R can be endorsed in your foreign passport and they have E-visas, no need for a visa stamp , its all electronic, etc etc Aussie takes approx. 66 days(currently about 80 due to their high number of applications lately) to process citizenship application and has similar features as NZ. I can go on and on....My point is these countries charge close to what CIC charges for services, but they have high tech mechanisms that are completely non existent at CIC, (and never will, )they have similar processes as CIC but have more efficiencies that help deliver citizenship grants to those that are successful in very impressive time frames and the budget allocations in their throne speeches are similar or even smaller(N.Z) but CIC continues to perform dismally. All Minister Alexander will say is, "we passed a new citizenship law, that will take care of it" Yet problems are just mounting each second he says those words over and over. If your car has a flat tire, or needs an oil change or needs a new battery or new stereo, do you just go to a dealership and buy a new car based on those types of problems on your still running car? Why wont he FIX, FIX FIX problems in this current citizenship process already??? Its all big talk from these people, "combatting fraud, closing files, less leniency etc etc" but what the hell has that even done to decrease the processing times by even a two seconds?? NOTHING, ZERO! Just talk, talk talk.I don't think these high educated politicians have a clue on how to rectify these problems, they might as well ask the "like-minded "countries how to run this programme, we are being served by dumb dumbers! Even I could do a better job than this!

In business a rant like this would be called a CLM (Career Limiting Move) lets just hope it's not a CLM (Citizenship Limiting Move) hahaha jk jk I agree with some of the points you've made here, there is definitely a TON of improvements that can and should be made, but recent evidence shows that there has been a decline in the numbers of files at CIC and indeed a speedier process, I am not saying it's all fine and dandy though, because it's FAR from that!

 

[Eminem slim shady]

In business a rant like this would be called a CLM (Career Limiting Move) lets just hope it's not a CLM (Citizenship Limiting Move) hahaha jk jk I agree with some of the points you've made here, there is definitely a TON of improvements that can and should be made, but recent evidence shows that there has been a decline in the numbers of files at CIC and indeed a speedier process, I am not saying it's all fine and dandy though, because it's FAR from that!

LOOOOOOOL..you are a funny guy/gal, I like that! Well, you know the evidence you are talking about is mostly back East where already they have it so good. Its funny how these big CIC cats pat themselves on the back on any improvement in CIC immigration services, yet all that improvement is concerntrated in regions where so much human and capital resources are prevalent. When questioned about other parts of the country, the rest of CANADA, they say, "its not perfect, but we will continue to monitor blah blah blah..." Just a bit frustrated, I chose a 24 pack of Budweiser over Molson Canadian over two hrs ago, so I guess that's whats doing the talking here, LOOOOOOOOL....but lets hope you are right and lets continue to petition these guys at Ottawa. Its our citizenship, its our $400, its our $44Million, its our right to have due process in a timely manner. A passport application takes only 20 days to process yet its almost similar to a very routine citizenship application ...and most third world countries I know process their applications in less time than Canada....Just saying....Have a great weekend though.

 

[brbr]

LOOOOOOOL..you are a funny guy/gal, I like that! Well, you know the evidence you are talking about is mostly back East where already they have it so good. Its funny how these big CIC cats pat themselves on the back on any improvement in CIC immigration services, yet all that improvement is concerntrated in regions where so much human and capital resources are prevalent. When questioned about other parts of the country, the rest of CANADA, they say, "its not perfect, but we will continue to monitor blah blah blah..." Just a bit frustrated, I chose a 24 pack of Budweiser over Molson Canadian over two hrs ago, so I guess that's whats doing the talking here, LOOOOOOOOL....but lets hope you are right and lets continue to petition these guys at Ottawa. Its our citizenship, its our $400, its our $44Million, its our right to have due process in a timely manner. A passport application takes only 20 days to process yet its almost similar to a very routine citizenship application ...and most third world countries I know process their applications in less time than Canada....Just saying....Have a great weekend though.

Hahahaha I'm sad to see you went the Budweiser route, surely if you have to skip over Molson then you can go for an Alexander Keith's or even a Kokanee, haha. Yeah I think a reasonable waiting time for citizenship in a developed country should not exceed 6 months. Mind you I am not quite sure what is the application volume is in NZ and AUS and if it is comparable to that of Canada. It would be cool to have a dollar/application statistic also comparing timelines in those 3 countries. Oh well... and yes you are correct about western provinces, pretty lame out there!

 

[Eminem slim shady]

Hahahaha I'm sad to see you went the Budweiser route, surely if you have to skip over Molson then you can go for an Alexander Keith's or even a Kokanee, haha. Yeah I think a reasonable waiting time for citizenship in a developed country should not exceed 6 months. Mind you I am not quite sure what is the application volume is in NZ and AUS and if it is comparable to that of Canada. It would be cool to have a dollar/application statistic also comparing timelines in those 3 countries. Oh well... and yes you are correct about western provinces, pretty lame out there!

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL....You made my day, I will say it again you made my day! I lost the taste Alexander Keiths, it gives an impression of what its not! Its looks good, but its lukewarm too long to flow down the pipes and not effective enough to get the job done!! Lol Budweiser is COLD but quick and strong and will never let you down. LOOOOL. 6 months is a reasonable maximum time frame I think too, infact the UK takes 6 months to process and they are all done in one office in Liverpool. I drove around there some years back and the infrastructure is impressive.You know what, AUS, NZ receive approx. the same number of applications as Canada. Those two nations are situated in a volatile region,so many high populated poor countries with high unemployment rates and so forth. So AUS and NZ are the closest rich nations that are cheaper to fly to and closer to immigrants home countries. Infact Aus and NZ receive the extremely high number of fraudulent applications and they are quickly detectable and have the highest number of immigration related arrests in the developed world. I remember a time when Australian university officials travelled to my home country several times as well as other countries globally to recruit students and offered various types of visa categories that were a pathway to residence and eventual citizenship.Their mining boom was screaming for professionals globally and they went on a mad global hunt for skills and students.I almost went but never joined gold rush. NZ offered a cheaper university education alternative, cheaper cost of living(at the time) , a peace and quiet lifestyle as well as mountaineous outback attraction. So both countries have strong draw factors just as much as Canada, infact a fair number of Canadians work in Australia.

When ever CIC compares stats to these like minded countries, they compare dollar figures and NOT the timelines. So they are essentially saying, they are better than these other nations yet the proof on the ground clearly says other wise. Infact, in Aus its $260 to file a citizenship application, you can file it outside the country, you can file online(certain conditions though) , you can choose to have a private oath ceremony and have your certificate mailed to you express post and you can write your test at various GVT service centres, like Service Canada here and its currently 80 days. NZ costs $470, 4 months processing, you can apply in person, by mail or perform an application drop off at various local gvt department offices, no tests, no interviews unless asked and you can apply outside the country. Here??? LOOOOOOL....you can see why I don't like Alexander keiths now!

 

[brbr]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL....You made my day, I will say it again you made my day! I lost the taste Alexander Keiths, it gives an impression of what its not! Its looks good, but its lukewarm too long to flow down the pipes and not effective enough to get the job done!! Lol Budweiser is COLD but quick and strong and will never let you down. LOOOOL. 6 months is a reasonable maximum time frame I think too, infact the UK takes 6 months to process and they are all done in one office in Liverpool. I drove around there some years back and the infrastructure is impressive.You know what, AUS, NZ receive approx. the same number of applications as Canada. Those two nations are situated in a volatile region,so many high populated poor countries with high unemployment rates and so forth. So AUS and NZ are the closest rich nations that are cheaper to fly to and closer to immigrants home countries. Infact Aus and NZ receive the extremely high number of fraudulent applications and they are quickly detectable and have the highest number of immigration related arrests in the developed world. I remember a time when Australian university officials travelled to my home country several times as well as other countries globally to recruit students and offered various types of visa categories that were a pathway to residence and eventual citizenship.Their mining boom was screaming for professionals globally and they went on a mad global hunt for skills and students.I almost went but never joined gold rush. NZ offered a cheaper university education alternative, cheaper cost of living(at the time) , a peace and quiet lifestyle as well as mountaineous outback attraction. So both countries have strong draw factors just as much as Canada, infact a fair number of Canadians work in Australia.

When ever CIC compares stats to these like minded countries, they compare dollar figures and NOT the timelines. So they are essentially saying, they are better than these other nations yet the proof on the ground clearly says other wise. Infact, in Aus its $260 to file a citizenship application, you can file it outside the country, you can file online(certain conditions though) , you can choose to have a private oath ceremony and have your certificate mailed to you express post and you can write your test at various GVT service centres, like Service Canada here and its currently 80 days. NZ costs $470, 4 months processing, you can apply in person, by mail or perform an application drop off at various local gvt department offices, no tests, no interviews unless asked and you can apply outside the country. Here??? LOOOOOOL....you can see why I don't like Alexander keiths now!

I guess Alexander Keith's reminds you of Chris Alexander.... lol oh and thank you for all that info. you've definitely done some homework! Well done Glad I could brighten up your day hahaha and yeah I agree with you on many points there, I am just at a loss of who might be the best party in Canada to fix CIC's issues, and I don't think it's even a matter of that, because the PM will appoint a minister to head CIC, so eventually it's all about that appointed individual and his/her business acumen and operations background.

 

[Eminem slim shady]

I guess Alexander Keith's reminds you of Chris Alexander.... lol oh and thank you for all that info. you've definitely done some homework! Well done Glad I could brighten up your day hahaha and yeah I agree with you on many points there, I am just at a loss of who might be the best party in Canada to fix CIC's issues, and I don't think it's even a matter of that, because the PM will appoint a minister to head CIC, so eventually it's all about that appointed individual and his/her business acumen and operations background.

LOOOL...just humour at its best. Its always nice to poke at these ministers time and again. If I could be a comedian, Ottawa would be starting point at least.Thanks hey, you sure did. I read a lot, but I play a lot too. LOL. See politicians are politicians my friend, the game is still the game, it only has different players that's all. Infact you know what, the Paul Martin Gvt was strict on immigration when they had to and was lenient ,somewhat when the conditions allowed it. A lot of people tend to think the tories don't like immigrants, but infact under them as immigration in Canada increased, even during 2007-2009 recession here. The tories believe in market trends much more than other parties, they believe in much less unrestricted movement, free trade, competition and independence.Sir John A Mcdonald was the first Conservative Prime minister , and under him did immigration from Europe increase and when Alexander Mackenzie took over on 7 November 1873, he was a Liberal and it slowed. Same with Brian Mulroney who under him immigration increased and when Chriesten and Paul Martin took over, it slowed and also not just slowed, but got tougher. Its something not many immigrants notice but when you look closely into conditions when different gvts come in, you will see how easy or hard it is to get a work permit. Open work permits exists now under this gvt, never when Chriesten or Paul Martin were there, infact their version of the T.FW programme were tougher and discouraged employers from hiring you since it was a hassle and you couldn't work until your work permit finally arrived in your hands.

Another interesting fact for you, under Obama, lots and lots of US visa holders have had a hard time to renew visas.Most had lived there for close to 10 yrs waiting to apply for green cards but have had to leave the USA altogether due to unemployment and US immigration services not renewing visas. The $800Billion package was only accessible by employers who hired US citizens and green card holders only. Im not sure of obamacare, BUT lots of foreigners have been deported under Obama, more in his first term than Both in G.Ws terms. Bush barely deported anyone, and infact under him immigration numbers from refugees (Somalians) to PhD holders skyrocketed and mysteriously,during the election time, his first election run, a huge huge increase of immigrants applying for US citizenship experienced faster than normal processing times(wooow, if only that could happen here!) and received US citizenship and were heavily encouraged to vote for Bush.Imagine, you receive your US citizenship faster than normal and wherever you look banners and posters asking you to vote for BUSH, lower taxes, more jobs, the American dream, maybe a beer with the Texan etc right after your US-constitution allegiance ceremony...I mean...how could you not vote for the man? LOL Infact he came here to Calgary a while back and I went to see him. Paid $400 ,bit more than i wanted to but, it was worth it. Amazing guy, would have loved to have a budweiser with him if he had more time in the city.LOL.Sorry for the long ass cermon, still holding down the Budweiser as I write, LOL.