Dual Citizen entering US

[nope]

Yes. Harper said it right. That was brought on by many decades of liberal government trying to please everyone's interest and political correctness BS that lead to where Canada is now.

Nobody likes to hear the truth because it's true.

Just for the record, Canadian health care policy originates from Saskatchewan and Alberta, hardly hotbeds of liberalism.

 

[screech339]

Just for the record, Canadian health care policy originates from Saskatchewan and Alberta, hardly hotbeds of liberalism.

Actually it started in Saskatchewan by an NDP premier. Ever heard of Tommy Douglas? The provincial government tends to be a socialist government. Saskatchewan only had 3 conservative governments in its history including popular Brad Wall.

Followed by Alberta social credit, followed by Lester B Pearson. All Liberal governments.

 

[nope]

Except SocCred is SocCred, not liberal.

 

[screech339]

Except SocCred is SocCred, not liberal.

Sure. Social Credit was a socialist party much like today NDP and Liberals.

Remember a former LIBERAL MP David Dingwall famous line?

"I'm entitled to my entitlements."

 

[keesio]

One of the tricks is to shift earned income to corporate entities. As an example of how this might work (please don't try this at home!), both an Alberta corporation and a Delaware LLC (classified as a 'C' Corp with the IRS) could be setup. All earned income in Canada is shifted to the Alberta Corporation. The Delaware LLC invoices the Alberta corporation for services rendered (your earned income, including charging a profit). The Delaware LLC pays you a minimal wage for your services and withholds U.S. taxes on that earned income. The Delaware LLC also pays you dividends, at a lower capital gains tax rate. The remaining profit remains with the Delaware LLC, which is taxed at a low corporate rate. This will seriously complicate your tax returns.

This may be true, but it may not be for those who know how to take full advantage of U.S. tax law.

woah. ok, that is a bit too complex for me. I'll likely pass on this but thanks for sharing!

 

[nope]

Sure. Social Credit was a socialist party much like today NDP and Liberals.

Remember a former LIBERAL MP David Dingwall famous line?

"I'm entitled to my entitlements."

Well, yeah -- that's true for everyone, including conservatives. Or do they believe in entitlements that people aren't entitled to?

 

[alphazip]

Sure. Social Credit was a socialist party much like today NDP and Liberals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Credit_Party_of_Canada

"The Social Credit Party of Canada (French: Parti Crédit social du Canada), colloquially known as the Socreds, was a conservative-populist political party in Canada that promoted social credit theories of monetary reform."

[In 1986] "The party's leadership was won by the socially conservative Ontario evangelical minister Harvey Lainson, who defeated Holocaust denier James Keegstra by 67 votes to 38 at a delegated convention in Toronto. Lainson's campaign focused on gun rights and an opposition to abortion and the metric system."

Doesn't sound much like the NDP or Liberals to me.

 

[links18]

I don't know whether it rises to the level of illegality or not, but both Canada and the United States require their citizens to use the country-specific passport when entering. I don't know what the penalty is for not doing so, but I would be loathe to experiment on the American border. Violations of passport rules can be astonishingly severe.

Neither country has exit controls, so that doesn't apply.

Occasionally, US CBP does do exit inspections on the land border. Not often, but occasionally they do. I have experienced it maybe 3 times in 10 years.

 

[keesio]

Occasionally, US CBP does do exit inspections on the land border. Not often, but occasionally they do. I have experienced it maybe 3 times in 10 years.

Where does this occur? Ever border I have crossed at, there was no place to do this. The road would go straight to Canada immigration. Unless the CBP officer was there also.

 

[Natan]

Where does this occur? Ever border I have crossed at, there was no place to do this. The road would go straight to Canada immigration. Unless the CBP officer was there also.

I experience U.S. exit controls at least twice a year at the land borders. Generally, they setup a few hundred metres from the border (on U.S. side). Sometimes they just waive me through, sometimes they ask questions, sometimes they ask for I.D., and sometimes they search the car.

 

[keesio]

I've never seen this. Then again, mots of my crossings have been the rainbow bridge, peace bridge and lewiston bridge in southern Ontario. Either I never paid attention or those three crossings don't have them

 

[alphazip]

I've never seen this. Then again, mots of my crossings have been the rainbow bridge, peace bridge and lewiston bridge in southern Ontario. Either I never paid attention or those three crossings don't have them

U.S. CBP actually has wide-ranging powers, not only at border crossings, but within 25 miles of an international border! The ACLU has put out a booklet on the subject:

https://www.acluaz.org/sites/default/files/field_documents/aclu_border_rights.pdf

Apparently people are stopped quite often in the vicinity of the Mexican border, even if they're not entering or leaving Mexico. See, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDCXzqgD99o

I (and every other car in line) was stopped on several occasions by U.S. CPB as I made my approach to the Detroit-Windsor Tunnel, and asked to show my passport. I actually read somewhere that exit controls were going to be made permanent, but that hasn't materialized so far.

I remember years ago when one complaint U.S. politicians commonly made about the U.S.S.R. was that you had to have papers and be inspected to leave the country.

 

[Natan]

U.S. CBP actually has wide-ranging powers, not only at border crossings, but within 25 miles of an international border! The ACLU has put out a booklet on the subject:

https://www.acluaz.org/sites/default/files/field_documents/aclu_border_rights.pdf

Apparently people are stopped quite often in the vicinity of the Mexican border, even if they're not entering or leaving Mexico. See, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDCXzqgD99o

I (and every other car in line) was stopped on several occasions by U.S. CPB as I made my approach to the Detroit-Windsor Tunnel, and asked to show my passport. I actually read somewhere that exit controls were going to be made permanent, but that hasn't materialized so far.

I remember years ago when one complaint U.S. politicians commonly made about the U.S.S.R. was that you had to have papers and be inspected to leave the country.

SCOTUS rulings have effectively given CBP jurisdiction to inspect for status within 200 miles of any border (including the sea). I've been through their checkpoints in the Southwest, 100 miles from the Mexican border. CBP has no jurisdiction to interfere with U.S. citizens away from an actual port of entry, but they may question citizens. In fact, no one is "required" to answer their questions, but they can be quite intimidating. (There are many Youtube postings of encounters with these ad hoc inspections.)

 

[links18]

SCOTUS rulings have effectively given CBP jurisdiction to inspect for status within 200 miles of any border (including the sea). I've been through their checkpoints in the Southwest, 100 miles from the Mexican border. CBP has no jurisdiction to interfere with U.S. citizens away from an actual port of entry, but they may question citizens. In fact, no one is "required" to answer their questions, but they can be quite intimidating. (There are many Youtube postings of encounters with these ad hoc inspections.)

I thought it was 100 miles? In any event that puts most of the country's population centers under reach. It is true that a U.S. citizen does not have any legal obligation to answer CBP questions. In fact, that is true when entering the country at a regular POE also--although that will generally make for a rough day. Often, at these ad hoc inspection set-ups, CBP officers have been deputized by local law enforcement and can enforce state law and local ordinances as well as federal customs and immigration law. Have a tail light out? Well, that gives them all the cause they need to hold you and make your life miserable while they process the automobile safety infraction.

 

[Natan]

I thought it was 100 miles? In any event that puts most of the country's population centers under reach. It is true that a U.S. citizen does not have any legal obligation to answer CBP questions. In fact, that is true when entering the country at a regular POE also--although that will generally make for a rough day. Often, at these ad hoc inspection set-ups, CBP officers have been deputized by local law enforcement and can enforce state law and local ordinances as well as federal customs and immigration law. Have a tail light out? Well, that gives them all the cause they need to hold you and make your life miserable while they process the automobile safety infraction.

The 200 mile rule covers about 80% of the U.S. population.

Away from a POE, CBP's mandate covers immigration law only. It is unlawful for them to conduct any non immigration law enforcement away from a POE. That being said, it's rumoured that at least some of the road blocks set up by CBP to check immigration status are simply a "cover" to conduct law enforcement duties.