Doubt on Choosing NOC Code

[Dineshkc]

I have got the experience in Teaching for 4 years. I did this job before I did my MBA which was finished in 2013. After my MBA I have been working as Associate Analyst for 13 months.
In summary:
Communicative English Teacher (Before MBA was done) : 4 years
Associate Analyst (After MBA was done) : 13 months
When I checked for “Determine Your Eligibility”, I am not eligible with 1 year of experience (Only Associate Analyst) but when I gave 4 to 5 years’ experience (4+1), I become eligible. I tried only with 1 year experience because I wanted to match it with NOC.
Pls shed some light into this; which NOC could I use? Can I give 4-5 years’ experience and choose Management NOC? I would like to begin to make the profile after clearing this doubt.

Thank you so much.

 

[Dineshkc]

To be even more precise in my question; Is the NOC (Job Title) determined based on the experience we have or the Education Qualification?... Yes.. This is what is my question where i am stuck with and hesitating to enter into the registration.

Thanks for your help.

 

[Asivad Anac]

Work experience can be seen from 3 perspectives.

1. Basic EE eligibility http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-who-express.asp

You just need 1 year of paid continuous full-time (or equivalent part-time) work experience within the last 10 years in a single NOC 0/A/B to be eligible. Which is true in your case whether you consider Teaching or Associate Analyst.

2. CRS score http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/grid-crs.asp

This maxes out at 3 years of work experience across multiple NOCs. This is true in your case as well.

3. FSWP eligibility http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/apply-factors.asp

This is tricky. You can count experience gained under a single NOC only. In your case, you will either get 9 points for Associate Analyst or 13 points for Communicative English Teacher role. No matter what you choose, you'll need to hit 67/100 here to be eligible.

 

[Dineshkc]

Hi,
If i choose 1 year experience, i do not seem to be eligible.
If i choose 4 year experience, my NOC will not match with my education, i guess. So, can i give 4 year of experience and give the Management/Administration NOC?

Thanks for your patience and suggestion.

 

[Asivad Anac]

Hi,
If i choose 1 year experience, i do not seem to be eligible.
If i choose 4 year experience, my NOC will not match with my education, i guess. So, can i give 4 year of experience and give the Management/Administration NOC?

Thanks for your patience and suggestion.

Your NOC doesn't necessarily need to match with your education. You can claim 4 years of experience and give the other NOC.

 

[Dineshkc]

Your NOC doesn't necessarily need to match with your education. You can claim 4 years of experience and give the other NOC.

Thank you very much Asivad Anac for the precise response. I really appreciate it.

 

[Dineshkc]

It's based on the job duties. You will need to prove (through a reference letter) that your actual work experience was in the job duties outlined in the NOC profile that you choose. The educational qualification listed under the NOC code is not a definitive requirement.

You will need to truthfully enter your NOC for all the work experience you have (and for which you want to claim points for). Your teaching job and the analyst role seem vastly different, so you cannot use the same NOC code for this (and certainly not a management NOC - how would that be applicable to either?).

Instead:
- Choose the right NOC code for your teaching job and enter it under the work experience section
- Choose the right NOC code for your analyst job and enter it under the work experience section

You will have to nominate your primary NOC code, and you should use the teaching job's NOC code for this because then you can claim points for 4 years' experience instead of just one.

Dan_and, Thank you so much for your kind advice. Now, with this I am on my way to create my profile. Thank you soo much.

 

[Asivad Anac]

Thank you very much Asivad Anac for the precise response. I really appreciate it.

Just to clarify, make sure your Primary NOC is the same NOC that you worked in for 4 years. You can certainly claim the other NOC for your 1 year work experience but it doesn't add anything to your CRS points because you already have 3+ years from the other job and it wouldn't impact your FSW eligibility points either.

What I'm saying is that you could keep your entire post-MBA work experience out of your EE profile without any impact on your application.

 

[Dineshkc]

Just to clarify, make sure your Primary NOC is the same NOC that you worked in for 4 years. You can certainly claim the other NOC for your 1 year work experience but it doesn't add anything to your CRS points because you already have 3+ years from the other job and it wouldn't impact your FSW eligibility points either.

What I'm saying is that you could keep your entire post-MBA work experience out of your EE profile without any impact on your application.

Wow.. I have no words to thank you.. It's just delightful. This is exactly what I was always trying to ask for the past one month, but I failed to ask concise question itself. But here I receive the answer.
Thank you very much.

 

[vipulgoyal88]

hi, for CRS points, does the work experience have to be in one NOC or can it be across multiple NOCs? I know for EE eligibility, it has to be one NOC, this question is specifically for CRS skill transferability points. I ask this question because CIC's CTS points grid (cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/grid-crs.asp) doesnt say it has to be one NOC, but its points tool (cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp) says it has to be one NOC even for CRS. Any idea why the discrepancy?

 

[Asivad Anac]

hi, for CRS points, does the work experience have to be in one NOC or can it be across multiple NOCs? I know for EE eligibility, it has to be one NOC, this question is specifically for CRS skill transferability points. I ask this question because CIC's CTS points grid (cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/grid-crs.asp) doesnt say it has to be one NOC, but its points tool (cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp) says it has to be one NOC even for CRS. Any idea why the discrepancy?

For basic EE eligibility, 1 year experience in the same NOC.

For CRS, 3 years experience under multiple NOCs.

For FSWP eligibility, experience under any 1 NOC alone can be counted.

Hope that clarifies. All the best!

 

[vipulgoyal88]

Hi Asivad, thanks for your reply. Can you kindly post the link/source of your information? My problem is, I have total of 3.5 years of work experience, 2.5 in one NOC and 1 in another. I can justify the 1 year work experience through reference letters but I dont think I willbe able to get the reference letters for 2.5 years work ex. So basically, with 1 year work ex, I get 68 points to qualify for FSWP and 456 points under CRS, but with 3.5 years work ex I get 481 points. Does all the work ex for CRS also have to be under an NOC?

 

[Asivad Anac]

Hi Asivad, thanks for your reply. Can you kindly post the link/source of your information? My problem is, I have total of 3.5 years of work experience, 2.5 in one NOC and 1 in another. I can justify the 1 year work experience through reference letters but I dont think I willbe able to get the reference letters for 2.5 years work ex. So basically, with 1 year work ex, I get 68 points to qualify for FSWP and 456 points under CRS, but with 3.5 years work ex I get 481 points. Does all the work ex for CRS also have to be under an NOC?

Work ex for CRS can be under multiple NOCs but you will have to get reference letters for all the experience you claim. If you have 456 points along with basic eligibility for FSWP, you are good to go.

 

[vipulgoyal88]

thanks again asivad. In that case, can i just choose to omit the other work experience and just show the 1 year work ex or do I have to still show that in the work history? I intent to claim points only for 1 year work ex

 

[Asivad Anac]

thanks again asivad. In that case, can i just choose to omit the other work experience and just show the 1 year work ex or do I have to still show that in the work history? I intent to claim points only for 1 year work ex

You can choose to keep it out of your work history. If you include it, you will be asked for reference letter.