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Does VO verifies Duties and NOC with HRSDC

Goku

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Does VO verifies whether duties matches NOC with HRSDC? Reason why I am asking this question is I emailed HRSDC with my job duties and they came up with different NOC's which I think doesn't matches my job duties. I am sure NOC I used matches my Duties, and also meets educational requirement. Should I be worried?
 

iam_toby

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Goku said:
Does VO verifies whether duties matches NOC with HRSDC? Reason why I am asking this question is I emailed HRSDC with my job duties and they came up with different NOC's which I think doesn't matches my job duties. I am sure NOC I used matches my Duties, and also meets educational requirement. Should I be worried?
For what I know the VOs pull up your NOC you mentioned in your application on the HRSDC website and compare the
duties mentioned on the HRSDC website with the duties mentioned in your reference letter.
 

badniks

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Feb 28, 2013
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Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
1254
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-06-2013
AOR Received.
07-08-2013
Med's Request
11-02-2014
HRSDC replied to my enquiry with a completely different NOC to my actual job - as in, none of the duties matched at all. They don't keep a log of what they've suggested and they're not always accurate.

The VOs will assess your actual job duties with the NOC you provide; they won't check and see what HRSDC suggested for you. HRSDC even had a disclaimer after their e-mail to me that emphasised that they might be wrong, and that it's the applicant who is in the best position to decide which NOC is most relevant.

I applied with the one that matched my duties, not the one that HRSDC suggested, and I'm currently waiting on my CoPR.
 

nov1061

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badniks said:
HRSDC replied to my enquiry with a completely different NOC to my actual job - as in, none of the duties matched at all. They don't keep a log of what they've suggested and they're not always accurate.

The VOs will assess your actual job duties with the NOC you provide; they won't check and see what HRSDC suggested for you. HRSDC even had a disclaimer after their e-mail to me that emphasised that they might be wrong, and that it's the applicant who is in the best position to decide which NOC is most relevant.

I applied with the one that matched my duties, not the one that HRSDC suggested, and I'm currently waiting on my CoPR.

What you did was correct.There were some applicants in this forum before, who even enclosed similar letter you received from HRSDC (to support their NOC number selection) and were refused because a VO was not satisfied with their number. So be cool.
 

Kiranmayi

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Jul 18, 2013
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Category........
Visa Office......
CPC Ottawa
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
22-09-2014
Doc's Request.
N/A
Nomination.....
N/A
AOR Received.
02-02-2015
IELTS Request
Send with Application
Med's Done....
15-12-2015 (upfront)
Passport Req..
29-02-2016
VISA ISSUED...
10-03-2016
LANDED..........
16-03-2016
may me silly question but what is VO??? :(
 

gladaki

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Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-11-2013
AOR Received.
30-12-2013
IELTS Request
submitted with application
Med's Done....
Upfront on 29th April..Updated on Ecas on 26th May
Passport Req..
11-07-2014
VISA ISSUED...
17-07-2014
LANDED..........
20-07-2014
iam_toby said:
For what I know the VOs pull up your NOC you mentioned in your application on the HRSDC website and compare the
duties mentioned on the HRSDC website with the duties mentioned in your reference letter.
not sure
THis is what they about my NOC 2113 on website

Geoscientists perform some or all of the following duties:

Conduct theoretical and applied research to extend knowledge of surface and subsurface features of the earth, its history and the operation of physical, chemical and biological systems that control its evolution

Plan, direct and participate in geological, geochemical and geophysical field studies, drilling and geological testing programs

Plan and conduct seismic, electromagnetic, magnetic, gravimetric, radiometric, radar and other remote sensing programs

Plan, direct and participate in analyses of geological, geochemical and geophysical survey data, well logs and other test results, maps, notes and cross sections

Develop models and applied software for the analysis and interpretation of data

Plan and conduct analytical studies of core samples, drill cuttings and rock samples to identify chemical, mineral, hydrocarbon and biological composition and to assess depositional environments and geological age

Assess the size, orientation and composition of mineral ore bodies and hydrocarbon deposits

Identify deposits of construction materials and determine their characteristics and suitability for use as concrete aggregates, road fill or for other applications

Conduct geological and geophysical studies for regional development and advise in areas such as site selection, waste management and restoration of contaminated sites

Recommend the acquisition of lands, exploration and mapping programs and mine development

Identify and advise on anticipated natural risks such as slope erosion, landslides, soil instability, subsidence, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions

May supervise and co-ordinate well drilling, completion and work-overs and mining activities.

one of my referencee letters says this

To Whom It May Concern:

Please be advised that xxx was a Full time employee with xxxxx

July 4, 2011 to February 14, 2012.

HIs position title was Jr. Geophysicist.

Job Objectives:

• Takes part in the running of seismic processing projects within a processing

team.

• Strives to ensure that production deadlines and QC requirements are met.

• Process seismic data from raw field data to final interpretable product.

Responsibilities include:

• Process seismic data from raw field data to final interpretable output

• Learn the geophysics behind the processing

• Start to build a client base by interacting with interpreters

• Attend client meetings with their supervisor in order to learn how to interact with

clients and how to conduct client meeting


XXXX had a base salary of $47,000 per annum, based on a 40 hour work week.

now i dont know how they match
 

resubmitmypr

Star Member
May 28, 2013
148
1
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
2171
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09-08-2013
AOR Received.
10-10-2013
IELTS Request
Sent with application
File Transfer...
10-10-2013
Med's Request
15-03-2014
Med's Done....
17-03-2014
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
02-04-2014
VISA ISSUED...
07-04-2014
LANDED..........
10-04-2014
Kiranmayi said:
may me silly question but what is VO??? :(
VO - Visa Officer (your case officer for CEC app)

By the way, no question is silly, unless not asked. So, no worries.
 

Goku

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gladaki said:
not sure
THis is what they about my NOC 2113 on website

Geoscientists perform some or all of the following duties:

Conduct theoretical and applied research to extend knowledge of surface and subsurface features of the earth, its history and the operation of physical, chemical and biological systems that control its evolution

Plan, direct and participate in geological, geochemical and geophysical field studies, drilling and geological testing programs

Plan and conduct seismic, electromagnetic, magnetic, gravimetric, radiometric, radar and other remote sensing programs

Plan, direct and participate in analyses of geological, geochemical and geophysical survey data, well logs and other test results, maps, notes and cross sections

Develop models and applied software for the analysis and interpretation of data

Plan and conduct analytical studies of core samples, drill cuttings and rock samples to identify chemical, mineral, hydrocarbon and biological composition and to assess depositional environments and geological age

Assess the size, orientation and composition of mineral ore bodies and hydrocarbon deposits

Identify deposits of construction materials and determine their characteristics and suitability for use as concrete aggregates, road fill or for other applications

Conduct geological and geophysical studies for regional development and advise in areas such as site selection, waste management and restoration of contaminated sites

Recommend the acquisition of lands, exploration and mapping programs and mine development

Identify and advise on anticipated natural risks such as slope erosion, landslides, soil instability, subsidence, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions

May supervise and co-ordinate well drilling, completion and work-overs and mining activities.

one of my referencee letters says this

To Whom It May Concern:

Please be advised that xxx was a Full time employee with xxxxx

July 4, 2011 to February 14, 2012.

HIs position title was Jr. Geophysicist.

Job Objectives:

• Takes part in the running of seismic processing projects within a processing

team.

• Strives to ensure that production deadlines and QC requirements are met.

• Process seismic data from raw field data to final interpretable product.

Responsibilities include:

• Process seismic data from raw field data to final interpretable output

• Learn the geophysics behind the processing

• Start to build a client base by interacting with interpreters

• Attend client meetings with their supervisor in order to learn how to interact with

clients and how to conduct client meeting


XXXX had a base salary of $47,000 per annum, based on a 40 hour work week.

now i dont know how they match
Did you order GCMS notes?
 

gladaki

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Jul 15, 2012
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-11-2013
AOR Received.
30-12-2013
IELTS Request
submitted with application
Med's Done....
Upfront on 29th April..Updated on Ecas on 26th May
Passport Req..
11-07-2014
VISA ISSUED...
17-07-2014
LANDED..........
20-07-2014
Goku said:
Did you order GCMS notes?
well...i applied with same reference letters last time..when it gt rejected due to 10 day less experience...at that time exp was matching with job duties matches noc according to gcms so i dont think there should be any problem this time...
i order gcms on 24th feb but i am nov applicant so not expecting much on it..
 

Goku

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gladaki said:
well...i applied with same reference letters last time..when it gt rejected due to 10 day less experience...at that time exp was matching with job duties according to noc so i dont think there should be any problem this time...
i order gcms on 24th feb but i am nov applicant so not expecting much on it..
Let me know what your GMCS says. :)
 

Felix14

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Nov 7, 2013
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Goku said:
Does VO verifies whether duties matches NOC with HRSDC? Reason why I am asking this question is I emailed HRSDC with my job duties and they came up with different NOC's which I think doesn't matches my job duties. I am sure NOC I used matches my Duties, and also meets educational requirement. Should I be worried?
Yes a july applicant got refused because hrsdc code and
Job experience did not match :(
 

Goku

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Felix14 said:
Yes a july applicant got refused because hrsdc code and
Job experience did not match :(
Thats a different story. What I was asking was if they get in touch with HRSDC to see whether Job duty matches NOC. If your NOC doesn't matches job duty then obviously its going to be a problem.
 

gladaki

Champion Member
Jul 15, 2012
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Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
17-11-2013
AOR Received.
30-12-2013
IELTS Request
submitted with application
Med's Done....
Upfront on 29th April..Updated on Ecas on 26th May
Passport Req..
11-07-2014
VISA ISSUED...
17-07-2014
LANDED..........
20-07-2014
Felix14 said:
Yes a july applicant got refused because hrsdc code and
Job experience did not match :(
no he got refused becoz VO thought he dont qualify for that job...as its a supervisor role. please cross check when you write
some thing like this here
 

alijumani

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gladaki said:
no he got refused becoz VO thought he dont qualify for that job...as its a supervisor role. please cross check when you write
some thing like this here
I agree with gladaki