Does Intent to Stay Applicable to Application Already in Process before 11th Jun
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I have my doubts on this.
The law came into place in June 2014; however the implementation of 4/6 comes into play tomorrow. Which means the entire law is now in play.
How do you prove your intent depends on the officer or the judge. If they are not allowing a person to travel or work wherever they want; its a violation of charter rights. Which means their will be 2 groups of citizens.
The law came into place in June 2014; however the implementation of 4/6 comes into play tomorrow. Which means the entire law is now in play.
How do you prove your intent depends on the officer or the judge. If they are not allowing a person to travel or work wherever they want; its a violation of charter rights. Which means their will be 2 groups of citizens.
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sid377 said:
By checking on Income Tax records.
Those under the new rules will have to give consent to CIC for CRA records.
Those that CIC don't have access to CRA records are the old rules.
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dnyfyn said:
They are allowed travel and work whereever inside Canada until day of oath and get citizenship. After that, "intend to reside" doesn't apply.
Yes two sets of citizens. The criminal citizens on one side and the law abiding citizens on the other.
It will be applicable to new applicants but this rule is still difficult to understand & need to be discussed in more detail in coming days.
ar_fabrics said:
The rule is not difficult. Some people are trying to make it look difficult.
In a nutshell you just have to live here 6 months during the year of your application.
If you apply in the second half of the year, that requirement is fulfilled , because the processing time until the Oath will be less than a year.
After that as a Canadian you can go abroad for as long as you like.
Intent to stay part applies on the citizen applicants only! It does not apply to anyone after becoming a citizen, you can travel abroad whenever you want, you can live in other countries if you want, you can get jobs abroad if you want... You will have the same rights as other Canadian citizens!
Hello All..
The new forms are uploaded and below is the portion for the intent to stay on form.
"
I Intend, if Granted citizenship
To continue to reside in Canada.
To enter into, or continue in , employment outside canada in or with the Canadian Armed Forces, the federal public admintartion or the public service of a province. Otherwise than as localy engaged person or
to reside with my spouse or common law partner or parent who is a canadian …..
"
Now this clearly saying that once you are citizen you will continue to resise in Canada. Cant leave Canada...
Toughts on that???
The new forms are uploaded and below is the portion for the intent to stay on form.
"
I Intend, if Granted citizenship
To continue to reside in Canada.
To enter into, or continue in , employment outside canada in or with the Canadian Armed Forces, the federal public admintartion or the public service of a province. Otherwise than as localy engaged person or
to reside with my spouse or common law partner or parent who is a canadian …..
"
Now this clearly saying that once you are citizen you will continue to resise in Canada. Cant leave Canada...
Toughts on that???
sid377 said:
No.
It says you currently intend to continue to reside in Canada if granted citizenship. Simple language, simple matter of understanding tenses. Actually the form is verbatim section 5(1)(c.1) in the now revised Citizenship Act.
This is a requirement to be qualified for the grant of citizenship. The applicant must remain qualified for a grant of citizenship right up to and through the taking of the oath. So the applicant must have this intent throughout the application processing, right up to taking the oath.
Very straight-forward.
And that is all that could be required. The Charter has precedence. No impact, no application to anyone after the oath has been taken and the grant of citizenship is complete.
That does not mean an applicant can fraudulently conceal a contrary intention until the oath has been taken and then leave Canada with impunity. Fraud is fraud, a crime, a ground for denying the application, a ground for revoking citizenship forever. Those who engage in fraud almost always leave a trail of evidence. Question is whether the government becomes aware of the fraud, investigates, and follows through with what the law prescribes . . . more will probably continue to get away with fraud than are caught. Best case scenario, though, is that they spend the rest of their lives looking over their shoulders, worrying if someone close to them might notify the tip line or even send CIC the evidence to show there was fraud (undisclosed job or business abroad, concealed interest in property, job applications abroad, among much, much more).
simply applicants before June 11 did not sign this intention (they used old forms), therefore they are not required to fulfill this requirementsid377 said:
NOBODYLIKEME said:
The problem would have been if it applied under the old rules, because the processing time until the Oath used to be around 2 yers for regular applications.
Now with the fast track new system intend to reside will be very easy task to be achieved
