do I need to hire a lawyer?

[babymistycat]

I have most of the documents ready to submit my PR application. My issue here is my hubby only make about 30k a year and we have 2 young kids. I heard that apply INLAND, they do not look at incone level? So does that mean OUTLAND do? Since we just moved back Canada in 2014, hence still trying to build up our equity. But do I need to hire a lawyer bcos of this matter? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

 

[babymistycat]

My friends (immigrants) strongly suggest I need to hire a lawyer but I dont see why it is so complicated. Only concern is his income.

 

[kiwiblair]

we applied outland , no mention of income level at all .

 

[chhapa]

I have most of the documents ready to submit my PR application. My issue here is my hubby only make about 30k a year and we have 2 young kids. I heard that apply INLAND, they do not look at incone level? So does that mean OUTLAND do? Since we just moved back Canada in 2014, hence still trying to build up our equity. But do I need to hire a lawyer bcos of this matter? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

if ur applying for spouse visa, no need of showing ur income. still they ask for income tax return though

 

[babymistycat]

Yes, I understand we need to submit his financial assessment or tax return but his last tax return. He try to claim every possible channel resulting his income showing only 30k (after all the deductible, I believe only 21k. Like so low with spouse and 2 kids.) he is self employed. So does hiring a lawyer makes any difference? Does outland application scrutinize on income level. My friend said bcos its for outland (spouse living overseas) CIC need to see your income level meet their requirements. I m confused.

 

[MilesAway]

There is no minimum income required to sponsor your spouse, though you do have to show that you can support yourselves without resorting to welfare.

 

[babymistycat]

No minimum income for both INLAND & OUTLAND? any idea what sort of proof they require that we can support ourselves. Thank you

 

[chhapa]

if ur confident then no need of lawyer
if not, u can show ur application to a lawyer
they may chage 15-25 percent of their total fee to check already prepared application

 

[babymistycat]

My friends said bcos my husband income so low. That's why we NEED to hire a lawyer. But I understand some ppl without a job can sponsor their spouse too. And paying 5k to lawyer fee is kinda straining into our finances. If I got my PR, I can work n help out with the expenses.

 

[itsasyn17]

If you take a look at the Outland Sponsorship guide here:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/3900ETOC.asp

It specifically states that there is no income minimum...

prove that you have sufficient income to provide basic requirements for your spouse or common-law partner’s dependent children. To do this, you must provide documents showing your financial resources for the past 12 months. This requirement applies only when dependent children who have dependent children of their own are included on the application.

I hope this helps.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

My friends said bcos my husband income so low. That's why we NEED to hire a lawyer. But I understand some ppl without a job can sponsor their spouse too. And paying 5k to lawyer fee is kinda straining into our finances. If I got my PR, I can work n help out with the expenses.

No offence but your friends are idiots. Please ignore what they are saying.

There is absolutely no need to hire a lawyer and it would make zero difference anyways. There is no minimum income requirement to sponsor a spouse, whether it's inland or outland. You need to show CIC you can support yourselves without welfare. You can show income, savings, family assistance, your income potential. Honestly, you should have no issues just showing you husband's income.

 

[Buletruck]

No offence but your friends are idiots. Please ignore what they are saying.

Seconded! If you can understand the language (which you seem to grasp pretty clearly) there isn't any need to pay someone else to tell you how to fill out the forms....that's all a lawyer will do....and charge you money!

 

[frege]

I have most of the documents ready to submit my PR application. My issue here is my hubby only make about 30k a year and we have 2 young kids. I heard that apply INLAND, they do not look at incone level? So does that mean OUTLAND do? Since we just moved back Canada in 2014, hence still trying to build up our equity. But do I need to hire a lawyer bcos of this matter? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

As other people have stated here, there is no income requirement. You must be able to support yourselves as a family without using welfare. However, that will take into account your own ability to earn money once you are a PR, not just your husband's. So unless you are disabled or don't speak the language, your earning potential will be added to his. With your husband earning $30,000 by himself, it is very unlikely you will have a problem. If your husband has received welfare at any time in the last few years, the financial aspect is more likely to receive scrutiny, however.

Inland and outland make no difference for this. With inland you can stay in the country while you wait.

 

[babymistycat]

My husband has never receive any welfare at all. As proof of how we can support ourselves, to be honest, we are doing just fine now. Even though, we will add on the letter with his parent's support but in reality, we are doing just fine. We don't splurge or spend on expensive toys etc. But he doesn't have much "saving" in his bank account. Nothing to show we have excess money $$.

I am so glad I to found this forum for some help and advice even though my friends said do not listen to the forum, not reliable. I do not agree bcos most ppl have first hand experience hence are sharing their experience and what they know to others.

I have pretty good command of english and I do not see I have a problem finding a job. I got all my certificate and accreditation bodies that I will attached with my application.

Lastly, does CIC scrutinize sponsor who are older (50) with low income and have 2 kids still?

 

[frege]

My husband has never receive any welfare at all. As proof of how we can support ourselves, to be honest, we are doing just fine now. Even though, we will add on the letter with his parent's support but in reality, we are doing just fine. We don't splurge or spend on expensive toys etc. But he doesn't have much "saving" in his bank account. Nothing to show we have excess money $$.

I am so glad I to found this forum for some help and advice even though my friends said do not listen to the forum, not reliable. I do not agree bcos most ppl have first hand experience hence are sharing their experience and what they know to others.

I have pretty good command of english and I do not see I have a problem finding a job. I got all my certificate and accreditation bodies that I will attached with my application.

Lastly, does CIC scrutinize sponsor who are older (50) with low income and have 2 kids still?

It sounds like you won't have much of a problem with respect to adequate finances for PR, if they believe that he is making $30,000.

Sometimes if there is an age difference, then CIC will unfortunately take that as an indicator that the relationship is not genuine, i.e., that the younger person married the older one mainly to get into Canada. The larger the age difference, the more closely they will look at the application.

If the two children are yours it would be very difficult for them to say that the relationship isn't genuine. In that case you are very unlikely to have a problem in that respect.

I don't understand why you are rejecting the advice of the lawyer you spoke to and applying outland. If you apply inland then you are allowed to stay in Canada while you wait. If you apply outland then you will remain out of status, and you could be told to leave the country.