DECEMBER 2020 *OUTLAND* SPOUSAL SPONSORSHIP
- Thread starter jaxdacool1
- Start date
Just because the first person to get AOR for December is from the Philippines doesn’t mean that countries applications are getting processed faster. No idea why everyone starts pulling out the discrimination card.
I do find it interesting that there’s a lot of ‘why is this country getting this and that country getting that’ going on since Covid started, much more so than what I saw pre-Covid.
And you’re right, just because some files from the Philippines might happen to get AOR first doesn’t mean ‘privileged’ anymore than Indian files seemingly moving more quickly through the system. (That should be expected given the sheer volume of files for India.)
Every country under the sun got AOR before my husband did in our group and with him being from New Zealand you would think that would be a ‘first’ country.
It's not about discrimination it's about government ties and I believe it's political. If you look through previous months in the spreadsheets, you will see that the applicants from Philippines and India are processed quicker than other countries.
I just saw an applicant mail his file from New Zealand in July and he got his PPR today. So, I would like to know...how some files jump the queue? I'm in advocacy groups where one woman's husband was asked to send passport for visa stamp and they've been holding it for 11 months, essentially making his a prisoner in his own country!! There is a lot of discrimination and you just need to see what is happening behind the scenes. Once you join some advocacy groups, you may very well see this. I think we all deserve fair and equitable treatment. Why is any application receiving AOR before another? This is a simple process of opening the package, checking for completeness... there is no way there should be an 8 month discrepancy. A couple months, sure..but 8 months??
I can only speak from an New Zealand perspective as my husband is a NZ citizen, so I’m not surprised that this NZ male you spoke of got his PPR already. From July to Jan is six months. My husband received his in 109 days. That’s just over three months pre-Covid, so six months in Covid was excellent timing. New Zealand files are some of the easiest to process. NZ has strong ties with Canada and there is a lot of information sharing between countries, making background checks and security checks much more timely and easy. Plus New Zealand pre-Covid in particular is not only a visa exempt country but they have great opportunities like IEC visas to come to Canada and not only experience the country, but also to live and work, creating a great way to fulfill living requirements and building a strong base of information with their partners, like same addresses, etc. My husband took advantage of this program and it significantly helped us. Some countries don’t have those opportunities and therefore often for Outland cases the PA has either never been to Canada before or only has as a short term visitor. That alone is a disadvantage compared to someone like my husband who had access to many things Canadians and PRs have like a SIN, NOA, Canadian bank account and tons of documentation on him before having to even look outside Canadian borders.
In that sense is it partially political? Maybe simply because some citizens from other countries have more opportunities with regards to Canada based on the relationship their country shares with Canada, but that’s true for every country.
But even then, I have seen cases from countries like the UK, USA, Australia, etc that have gone over a year or even two years based on various reasons.
Last edited:
Then the IRCC should be more lenient in approving visitor visas for our spouses from visa required countries so that they can build on the same opportunities. If Canada has better relations with those countries, those applicants are getting through quicker. That is really an unfair system based on politics. I have been researching other countries and how long it takes to obtain spousal visas and there are many countries that have a much shorter waiting period. As a developed, first world country we should be leading in this department. But, again - you see issues such as the family of the Huawei scandal, a criminal having her family allowed in to Canada to be with her when she is neither a Canadian nor a PR. Myself, I just want to see a just and fair system for all families. There also needs to be more transparency, if a file is held up because of background checks then IRCC should let us know what the hold up is.
I agree. I think it would be great for more countries to have some of the same opportunities that visa exempt countries have, but unfortunately building bridges is a two way street. Only so much Canada can do on its own in the regard, but I do also agree that IRCC could be more transparent, especially when it comes to cases running over that one year mark.
I agree for some streams where people are entering Canada as a new immigrant, but this is family reunification! This is something that was promised by the PM and he's falling way short of his promises. My concern is the cases that are running 2, 3 years or longer. One woman has been waiting 8 years after the 3rd time they received PPR only for it to be revoked 2 weeks later because they learned that the applicant worked at a temporary job he forgot about when applying, therefore they presented as misrepresentation. I mean, I can't imagine getting the PPR and later being told, nahhh. Today, in response to the terrible Toronto Star article (where a bunch of admins from an advocacy group were "fast tracked") a woman shared her husband has only shared one birthday with his daughter in 11 years. This is really inhumane.
good day, I have submitted our application last December 2020 however, I didnt notice that the IMM 5532 form was updated on October 2020, I submitted ours using the old version (02-2019), will that cause our application to be returned? I don't have any AOR yet, I am so worried.