COPR and coronavirus

[Lachelle]

Guys, does the principal applicant need to be validated first before the dependents?
Im in land applicant and my copr has not validated yet. If they going to allow copr holder to enter Canada soon, is that mean my family would not be allowed to enter?

Based on the letter that I received together with the copr, dependents may accompany or follow the principal,but cannot arrive in Canada before the principal...is this mean they could come since im already in canada even if i am not PR yet?

Pls enlighten me with a notes taken from IRCC..thank you

 

[Mitya-kun]

Guys, does the principal applicant need to be validated first before the dependents?
Im in land applicant and my copr has not validated yet. If they going to allow copr holder to enter Canada soon, is that mean my family would not be allowed to enter?

Based on the letter that I received together with the copr, dependents may accompany or follow the principal,but cannot arrive in Canada before the principal...is this mean they could come since im already in canada even if i am not PR yet?

Pls enlighten me with a notes taken from IRCC..thank you

Principal applicant must go through the landing procedure first, which means that you have to become Permanent resident officially first, then (or together with you). If you haven't landed yet (haven't 'validated' your COPR yet), you're still not a PR, therefore, your dependants cannot become PRs now.

 

[Fazzio]

Early in the week of 22 march? Today is Wednesday and early will be over soon. Are we expecting the announcement today?

Today I received and e-mail from the consulate of Canada in Brazil:

"On March 20th, the Government of Canada has announced that certain temporary residents will be allowed to return in the near future, including those holding work and study permits, and immigration visas. At this time, however, we do not have further instructions but expect to receive those shortly (possibly by tomorrow).

We deeply regret not being able to provide a precise date when you will be able to travel back to Canada but please continue checking our website for updates and guidance: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2020/03/canada-provides-update-on-exemptions-to-travel-restrictions-to-protect-canadians-and-support-the-economy.html"

 

[Fazzio]

Hi everyone,

I know we are facing great challenges right now. My husband and I quit our jobs, sold our stuff, rented an apartment in Kelowna (BC)...we were supposed to travel to Canada next Tuesday, March 31...however, even if the exemptions announced on March 20 take place before our visa expires - which will be on April 20 - I don't think it's the best time to move. I asked the Consulate if in this case, they will postpone the visa, but they have no answer...I am worried about how long it would take to them to give me the visa extension. For those who think that they would start again the process from the beginning, don't worry. I am copying here another reply of a webform that I sent on March 16, before the announcements of March 20:

"Unfortunately, you will not be able to travel to Canada at this time. The announcement of March 16, 2020 means only citizens and permanent residents of Canada will be able to enter Canada. As you have not yet landed and completed your PR process, you are not yet considered to be a permanent resident of Canada.

Given the extraordinary circumstances, we will be extending the validity of COPRs as needed, once the current situation has been resolved and we are back to standard operating procedures. Please be advised that you may need to re do your medical exams, but that this decision has not yet been made, and we will inform you of next steps once we are able to do so."
,

 

[Lachelle]

Principal applicant must go through the landing procedure first, which means that you have to become Permanent resident officially first, then (or together with you). If you haven't landed yet (haven't 'validated' your COPR yet), you're still not a PR, therefore, your dependants cannot become PRs now.

But are they gonna allow my family to enter? Like issue a visitor visa at the POE, then we'll just gonna do our landing together once they open the border?

Thanks again for your reply

 

[saad_im]

But are they gonna allow my family to enter? Like issue a visitor visa at the POE, then we'll just gonna do our landing together once they open the border?

Thanks again for your reply

Visit visas are not being issued at the moment as they are classified as 'non-essential' travel. You will have to complete your landing procedures before your dependant family can enter the country.

 

[whyCorona]

Hi everyone,

I know we are facing great challenges right now. My husband and I quit our jobs, sold our stuff, rented an apartment in Kelowna (BC)...we were supposed to travel to Canada next Tuesday, March 31...however, even if the exemptions announced on March 20 take place before our visa expires - which will be on April 20 - I don't think it's the best time to move. I asked the Consulate if in this case, they will postpone the visa, but they have no answer...I am worried about how long it would take to them to give me the visa extension. For those who think that they would start again the process from the beginning, don't worry. I am copying here another reply of a webform that I sent on March 16, before the announcements of March 20:

"Unfortunately, you will not be able to travel to Canada at this time. The announcement of March 16, 2020 means only citizens and permanent residents of Canada will be able to enter Canada. As you have not yet landed and completed your PR process, you are not yet considered to be a permanent resident of Canada.

Given the extraordinary circumstances, we will be extending the validity of COPRs as needed, once the current situation has been resolved and we are back to standard operating procedures. Please be advised that you may need to re do your medical exams, but that this decision has not yet been made, and we will inform you of next steps once we are able to do so."
,

Here is some information you might be looking for ( https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/service-delivery/coronavirus/permanent-residence.html#Approved_permanent_residence ):

Approved permanent residence applications (COPR and PRV)
Permanent residence applicants who are in possession of a confirmation of permanent residence (COPR) and permanent resident visa (PRV) and inform us, by submitting a web form to IRCC, that they are unable to travel within the validity of their documentation should be processed as follows:

• Valid COPR and PRV: In an effort to reduce the number of cancelled COPRs and PRVs, a note should be placed in the file explaining that the applicant is unable to travel, and the file should be brought forward to the expiration date of the COPR and PRV. If the applicant informs IRCC that they can travel prior to the COPR and PRV expiration, they are encouraged to use their existing COPR and PRV to land.
• Expired COPR and PRV: If the applicant informs IRCC via the web form that they were unable to travel after the expiration of their COPR and PRV, or if they were unable to travel prior to expiration, officers are to re-open the application, and it should be brought forward for review in 90 days.

Re-opened applications
Approved applications can be re-opened in GCMS by cancelling the COPR and PRV and removing the final decision.

When to review a re-opened application
Once the applicant informs IRCC via the web form that they are able to travel, a re-opened application may be re-approved provided that the applicant and their family members, whether accompanying or not, have valid immigration medical examinations, criminal and security checks and passports.

If the 60-day waiting period elapses and the applicant has not informed us that they are able to travel, a note should be placed in the application, and it should be brought forward for review for an additional 60 days.

 

[saad_im]

Hi everyone,

I know we are facing great challenges right now. My husband and I quit our jobs, sold our stuff, rented an apartment in Kelowna (BC)...we were supposed to travel to Canada next Tuesday, March 31...however, even if the exemptions announced on March 20 take place before our visa expires - which will be on April 20 - I don't think it's the best time to move. I asked the Consulate if in this case, they will postpone the visa, but they have no answer...I am worried about how long it would take to them to give me the visa extension. For those who think that they would start again the process from the beginning, don't worry. I am copying here another reply of a webform that I sent on March 16, before the announcements of March 20:

"Unfortunately, you will not be able to travel to Canada at this time. The announcement of March 16, 2020 means only citizens and permanent residents of Canada will be able to enter Canada. As you have not yet landed and completed your PR process, you are not yet considered to be a permanent resident of Canada.

Given the extraordinary circumstances, we will be extending the validity of COPRs as needed, once the current situation has been resolved and we are back to standard operating procedures. Please be advised that you may need to re do your medical exams, but that this decision has not yet been made, and we will inform you of next steps once we are able to do so."
,

The dilemma right now is, if incase the exemptions come into place for CoPR by next week, and people still choose not to travel due to health concerns, will they still extend coprs considering that borders were open and you CHOSE not to travel.

 

[Mitya-kun]

But are they gonna allow my family to enter? Like issue a visitor visa at the POE, then we'll just gonna do our landing together once they open the border?

Thanks again for your reply

In short, no, they will not be allowed to enter. That is on the one hand. On the other hand, if the airline allows them to board (your family members have proper visas and I don't know if they can check that PA haven't landed yet), I don't know what CBSA officer would do to them... either send them back or issue something like temporary resident permit maybe.
Anyway, the risks are too high and I strongly recommend you to do everything properly, as it should be done.

And by the way, don't forget that right now COPR holders are not permited to travel to Canada at all, unless they are close relatives of a Canadien citizen or of a Permanent resident (and you're not PR yet) or resided in the US for more than 14 days.

 

[ankurgupta325]

01141782000 and yes india

Nope. Nothing from this number

 

[niko80]

In short, no, they will not be allowed to enter. That is on the one hand. On the other hand, if the airline allows them to board (your family members have proper visas and I don't know if they can check that PA haven't landed yet), I don't know what CBSA officer would do to them... either send them back or issue something like temporary resident permit maybe.
Anyway, the risks are too high and I strongly recommend you to do everything properly, as it should be done.

And by the way, don't forget that right now COPRs holders are not permited to travel to Canada at all, unless they are close relatives of a Canadien citizen or of a Permanent resident (and you're not PR yet).

COPR holders can also not enter Canada from US? It is not very clear to me.

 

[prusa]

COPR holders can also not enter Canada from US? It is not very clear to me.

Non US citizens with COPR can fly from USA to Canada as long as they have been in the US for the last 14 days. You can also fly back to the USA(as long as you have the paperwork -- idk about 14 day isolation requirement). No travel via Land as of now.

 

[niko80]

Non US citizens with COPR can fly from USA to Canada as long as they have been in the US for the last 14 days. You can also fly back to the USA(as long as you have the paperwork -- idk about 14 day isolation requirement). No travel via Land as of now.

OK, from where in Canada can I get document about 14 day isolation?

 

[w_P]

Here is some information you might be looking for ( https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/service-delivery/coronavirus/permanent-residence.html#Approved_permanent_residence ):

Approved permanent residence applications (COPR and PRV)
Permanent residence applicants who are in possession of a confirmation of permanent residence (COPR) and permanent resident visa (PRV) and inform us, by submitting a web form to IRCC, that they are unable to travel within the validity of their documentation should be processed as follows:

• Valid COPR and PRV: In an effort to reduce the number of cancelled COPRs and PRVs, a note should be placed in the file explaining that the applicant is unable to travel, and the file should be brought forward to the expiration date of the COPR and PRV. If the applicant informs IRCC that they can travel prior to the COPR and PRV expiration, they are encouraged to use their existing COPR and PRV to land.
• Expired COPR and PRV: If the applicant informs IRCC via the web form that they were unable to travel after the expiration of their COPR and PRV, or if they were unable to travel prior to expiration, officers are to re-open the application, and it should be brought forward for review in 90 days.

Re-opened applications
Approved applications can be re-opened in GCMS by cancelling the COPR and PRV and removing the final decision.

When to review a re-opened application
Once the applicant informs IRCC via the web form that they are able to travel, a re-opened application may be re-approved provided that the applicant and their family members, whether accompanying or not, have valid immigration medical examinations, criminal and security checks and passports.

If the 60-day waiting period elapses and the applicant has not informed us that they are able to travel, a note should be placed in the application, and it should be brought forward for review for an additional 60 days.

I believe this is an old information. They have yet to make an announcement.

 

[Mitya-kun]

I believe this is an old information. They have yet to make an announcement.

Why? Nothing has changed: if you can't travel - inform them and your COPR will be reissued later; if you can - just travel. And I am sure that nothing will change in the nearest future, becuase even if Canada lifts its travel ban for COPR holder, that doesn't mean that COPR holders can travel since they can have other travel restrictions.