Confused ? Please suggest?

[torontocanada]

I am currently working as a Technical sales specialist in a retail store. Will this role be considered under NOC 6221- B in Experience class category ?
Did anyone applied before under the same situation and got the PR ?

 

[lpc19800]

CEC isn't about job titles - it's about duties so check if your responsibilities match those of the noc role

 

[torontocanada]

The NOC code 6221 says Technical sales specialist - Wholesale trade.. which means they don't deal directly with consumers , However, in retail environment I deal with the consumers directly.

 

[iam_toby]

The NOC code 6221 says Technical sales specialist - Wholesale trade.. which means they don't deal directly with consumers , However, in retail environment I deal with the consumers directly.

Then find a different NOC. It's not the titles that have to match exactly, it's the duties you
perform in your job. The titles should be somewhat related tho.
Find a NOC with matching duties or post your duties and we'll help you find a matching NOC. :

 

[torontocanada]

Please see the duties below :

- Be the brand ambassador for xyz company and our solution providers, greeting the customers and provides them courteous, knowledgeable services to motivate a purchasing decision.
- Identify existing and the new customers needs by asking open ended questions about their residential and wireless services
- Create a customized sales quotation as per client's needs for xyz residential and xyz wireless services including Internet, Home phone, TV and mobility
- Show live demo, develop price and the quality of services comparison to explain about the benefits of products and services as a part of the sales presentation
- Explain them about the installation and activation charges for all the services
- Explain, prepare and administer subscriber services contracts
- Take ownership of being creative to drive incremental sales of subscriber services and products by building on existing offers and participating in applicable events and initiatives
- Sells wide range of technical products and customizable services to the businesses in various industries
- Get certified within 30 to 45 days of being hired on selling residential and xyz wireless services
- Processes the sales transactions in a professional manner and in compliance with companies operating procedures, policies and guidelines in The Source point of sales as well as Bell order max system
- Attend all training and attain the level of knowledge and expertise as expected
- Establish a sales culture by coaching and mentoring other representatives on how to bridge subscriber services with other technical products
- Perform all other duties as assigned

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Thanks, I would really appreciate your help.

 

[iam_toby]

All I could find is 6221, which is wholesale only and not dealing with private clients.
And 6421, what matches your duties but is not eligible under CEC class. Your best bet would
be going with 6221 and have your supervisor or HR person make the duties match the ones mentioned there:
http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2011/Profile.aspx?val=6&val1=6421
But the duties you mentioned are already super close and if you ask me, match the ones on the website.

 

[torontocanada]

The duties in 6221 and 6241 are quite similar just the difference is the end client,


Do you think its worth trying 6221 or find another job ?

 

[iam_toby]

The duties in 6221 and 6241 are quite similar just the difference is the end client,


Do you think its worth trying 6221 or find another job ?

I'm not sure how the VO serious the VO is going to take the 'wholesale' part,
as your duties match. Maybe someone else can chime in on this??


Anyone?

 

[jes_ON]

retail and wholesale are different, people have been refused for getting that mixed up and putting the wrong NOC. Esp. since you work for a well-known telecom, it will be difficult for the VO to miss that.

Unfortunately, your NOC looks to be 6421. Your best bet is getting promoted to supervisor/manager, or finding a new, qualifying position -

 

[torontocanada]

Thanks you guys for the clarification.

 

[lpc19800]

why no one is taking about the salary which sho0uld in the first place indicate whether the job was skilled or not.
job description is just a piece of sh**

Erm because cec is all about job description - sure if your job description says you are a rocket scientist t you're paid minimum wage, questions might be asked but generally cec looks at the duties. This makes sense due to variations in wages depending on various factors such as location, experience and who is CIC to decide whether a job is skilled based on wages.

 

[suvan]

why no one is taking about the salary which sho0uld in the first place indicate whether the job was skilled or not.
job description is just a piece of sh**

You can be a supervisor in Dollarama and apply because of your job duties, but be paid close to $11 an hour

You could have a non skilled job (well as immigration sees it) and be paid over $20

Just the way it is im afraid, they look at the job duties, their rules! take it or leave it!