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VM-BASIC

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More Police checks, 5 Nov 2011
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02 Feb 2012 at Cootes AB Woo Hoo
Hi everyone, am hoping that some of the more experienced memebers on here can steer me in the right direction.
I am a serving memeber of HM Forces,and was posted to Canada from early 2008 to Nov 2009. During this period I met and started a relationship with a Canadian (Female) . We lived together for nearly 12 months, she owns her own home, before I was posted back to UK. During thiis time we have kept in touch, I have taken leave out there and She has stayed here in UK with me.
We are applying for me to immigrate under the family class, as a conjugal partner seems to fit our circumstances.
I have studied the CIC immigration website, however, maybe I am being a bit thick, but it seems to be really vauge on what steps should be taken in what order to achieve this aim.
Could any one give me an A to B to C etc as to what steps and in what order to facilitate the smooth application process.
For instance, it is not clear if I collect all the forms, med checks, police checks and send them to my Canadian partner for her to submit,or do I send them to CHC in London for their approval.
Help please as my intellect is feeling challenged and I am getting IMM forms floating in front of me every time I close my eyes....
 

maxvol

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http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/fc.asp

Part 1 - she fills out
Part 2- she fills out

In Part 3 where is says region specific form
Select West Europe (you and your sponsor fills out)

Goodluck
 

bobshynoswife

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Nov 16, 2009
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conjugal is a very difficult way to proceed. you must prove that you have been living in a marriage-like relationship but it is impossible for you to marry. usually this is used when there are immigration barriers preventing the couple from marrying, or when one lives in a country where the marriage is illegal, like a same-sex union, or in a country that will not recognize a previous divorce.

is there something stopping you from getting married? from what you have said, and given you are from a visa-exempt country, you would have a very difficult time applying under the conjugal category.
 

bobshynoswife

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Interview........
24-08-2010
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24-08-2010
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and yes, you would get everything together, including the forms, evidence and medical and police checks and send them to her in canada. she will add her part and send it all together (with fees paid) to CIC-Missassauga. they will approve her as sponsor and then forward the entire application to CIC-London.

I cannot stress how important it is for you to think carefully before applying as conjugal partners.
 

VM-BASIC

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More Police checks, 5 Nov 2011
Med's Done....
Nov 2010 and again Oct 25 2011
Interview........
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VISA ISSUED...
N/A
LANDED..........
02 Feb 2012 at Cootes AB Woo Hoo
Reason for not marrying was I was still seperated and my divorce had not come through,it now has.
Does this mean I have to make an honest woman out of her?
We are able to provide a lot of proof of ongoing relationship, we have met each others family and friends etc, have lots of call logs,plane ticket receipts photos from time spent together etc. I assume these will help
 

VM-BASIC

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London
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23 June 2011
Doc's Request.
More Police checks, 5 Nov 2011
Med's Done....
Nov 2010 and again Oct 25 2011
Interview........
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
N/A
LANDED..........
02 Feb 2012 at Cootes AB Woo Hoo
bobshynoswife said:
and yes, you would get everything together, including the forms, evidence and medical and police checks and send them to her in canada. she will add her part and send it all together (with fees paid) to CIC-Missassauga. they will approve her as sponsor and then forward the entire application to CIC-London.

I cannot stress how important it is for you to think carefully before applying as conjugal partners.

Thanks for the heads up.Will have to discuss this with my good lady and see what options it throws up
Edited to add.. I am having to stay in UK until early next year as this is when I finish time in Army. Dont think anyone wil be too impressed if I go AWOL and try to emmigrate
 

kelKel

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Marriage would be the far better way to go. I wouldn't even attempt the conjugal route being from a visa exempt country.
 

IrishApplicant

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VM-BASIC said:
Reason for not marrying was I was still seperated and my divorce had not come through,it now has.
Does this mean I have to make an honest woman out of her?
We are able to provide a lot of proof of ongoing relationship, we have met each others family and friends etc, have lots of call logs,plane ticket receipts photos from time spent together etc. I assume these will help
oh man.
we are almost there at the end of pulling our proof together.

what a pain in the arse it was/is!!

Enjoy.................!

IA
 

VM-BASIC

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London
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
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Doc's Request.
More Police checks, 5 Nov 2011
Med's Done....
Nov 2010 and again Oct 25 2011
Interview........
N/A
VISA ISSUED...
N/A
LANDED..........
02 Feb 2012 at Cootes AB Woo Hoo
OK guys, and Gals, many thanks for the advice received so far.Obviously there are a lot of things I havn`t considered in all this, it`s my first time at emigrating so bear with me.
At the risk of sounding like I`m very dense, why is Conjugal so frowned upon, and I was under the impression, that UK citizens are not visa exempt, as I can only stay as a guest/tourist for a limited time before I have to leave.
Is going to Canada as a tourist and then applying an option? Does sound a bit "Back Door " so as to speak.
I am waing through the CIC site again, but still seems vague.
Am trying to resist the temptation to curl into the foetalposition and wimpering softly.....
 
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buddhadimple

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I've heard Conjugal is really hard to get as well. I think it's there for special circumstances, not necessarily "frowned upon".

Do you mind me asking how old you are? If you are 30 or under, you can go to Canada on a Youth Mobility Visa. There are only so many non-student ones issued per year so you have to apply early (I think it opens in December this year). That way, you could live together for the required 12 consecutive months, then submit an application under the Common-Law heading. Someone correct me if that's wrong.

http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/united_kingdom-royaume_uni/work-travail/ym_uk-mj_ru.aspx?lang=eng#b

http://www.bunac.org/uk/workcanada/


EDIT: (Also, if you applied Inland while you were in Canada as soon as you reached the 12-month mark, you might get "implied status" to stay in the country until a decision is made I THINK - someone clarify on that one as it's just a rumour I once heard.)
 

IrishApplicant

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Med's Done....
July 2010
Interview........
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Passport Req..
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VM-BASIC said:
I was under the impression, that UK citizens are not visa exempt, as I can only stay as a guest/tourist for a limited time before I have to leave.
Visa exempt meant that you did not have to apply for a visa for that temporary stay. Your passport essentially is viewed as a visa for for temp , visitor residence for the six months. Most other countries must apply for a visa, with all its associated proof, documents yadda yadda yadda.

IA
Might I ask, what regiment are you in? i have a bro in the IG...signals.
 

IrishApplicant

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London
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Aug 20th 2010
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Oct 18th 2010
Med's Done....
July 2010
Interview........
not requested:)
Passport Req..
Feb 5th. 2010
buddhadimple said:
I.

Do you mind me asking how old you are? If you are 30 or under, you can go to Canada on a Youth Mobility Visa. There are only so many non-student ones issued per year so you have to apply early (I think it opens in December this year). That way, you could live together for the required 12 consecutive months, then submit an application under the Common-Law heading. Someone correct me if that's wrong.
that,incidentally, EXACTLY is what myself and the GF have/are doing.

IA
 

scylla

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In case this helps to clarify further....

Conjugal is meant for people who absolutely cannot meet the "spousal" requirements in any other way. In other words, it is supposed to be impossible for them to get married - and impossible for them to live together for at least 12 months. You don't face either of these barriers - and this is why many of us feel you won't qualify for conjugal in the eyes of the CIC and are recommending another route.

Hope this helps and good luck!
 

kelKel

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Buffalo
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File Transfer...
04-11-2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
28-02-2011
LANDED..........
03-03-2011
Unfortunately work/holiday program for the UK is officially closed for 2010. I had a friend who was going to do it.