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tommytee

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Aug 27, 2011
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Vancouver
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Visa Office......
Vienna
NOC Code......
5121
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Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
10-06-2012
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none
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21-08-2012
Hi everybody,

As this is my first message, let me introduce myself. I am Thomas, 29, from Holland. In December 2010, while I was on holiday in Vancouver, I met my Canadian girlfriend. Not long after I returned home, we decided we wanted to be together. My girlfriend applied for a WHP Visa and since June 1st 2011, she is living with me in Holland. After living here for 3 months, we decided we want to move back to Vancouver together. Studying will be easier for my girlfriend back home (she still wants to get her degree), and I'll have it a lot easier building a life in Vancouver than it is for her here. I'm fluent in English, have a Bachelor's degree in Communications and 5 years of working experience in the marketing field as a communications consultant and a marketing project manager.

We've been over all the options and papers, and decided that we want to do our application without a representative. The information on the cic website seems very clear, and with a little help from fora like this, I hope we can successfully apply for my PR.

In this post, I'll state our plan, ask questions and post our experiences. I hope that I can get some feedback on the plan and the questions that I have. Also, I hope that people who are in the same situation can benefit from my posts.

As follows:
- I am currently getting everything ready to apply for a WHP Visa as soon as the applications open in November/December. In March 2012, me and my girlfriend will fly to Vancouver. My father in-law owns some property in Vancouver and will let us stay there until we find something of ourselves. My girlfriends starts her study mid April (that is the reason we are going in March and are not waiting until we live together for a year in June). In the meantime, we will both go job hunting, and after we find a job, get a nice apartment and prepare our application.
-June the 1st, we'll officially live together for a year, and therefore we are eligible to apply for a PR in the common-law class (inland processing)
-Looking at the current processing times, it'll take about 19 months for our application to come through (fase 1, 10 months, fase 2 9 months). That means that we need a solution for me to stay and work in Canada between the time my WHP Visa ends and the time I become a PR. That is about 9/10 months. This is the part I'm unsure about and seems the most out of my hands.
-I have a couple of options. First of all, I'll apply for extension of status in January/February. I can only apply for a different type of TRV (I'll be 31, so not eligible for another WHP), which means I'll have to apply for a separate Working Permit. Therefore, my employer must get a Labour market opinion. I can only hope my employer wants to do that. If not, I'm in trouble, because I can't work.
-After I find a job, I can also apply for the BC Nominee Program, because my profession is on the list. Also, an uncertain route.

This is our story so far. The questions I have at this point are:
- Do I have other options for then 10 months in between the end of my WHP Visa and my PR? How difficult is it to get a Labour market opinion?
- I'm uncertain about the medical exam. It says in the guide that you must send your medical examination with your application. On another page, it says you don't have to send it, but have to wait for instructions. What to do?

I hope my post is clear and someone can give me feedback on my plan and my questions.

Thanks in advance!!!
 
Hi there,

Seems like you have figured out most of the stuff :) However, CIC has renamed the 'Working Holiday Program' to 'International Experience Canada' (IEC). This site should be helpful http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/germany-allemagne/youth-jeunesse/netherlands-pays_bas.aspx?lang=eng&view=d

Also, since it is a Temporary Permit Visa, you might be denied it if you cannot show sufficient ties to your home country or if you do not have the intention of returning (which I garner, you dont). Just my two cents :) Im sure other more experienced members can guide you better.

As for your other question, the medicals for a spousal sponsorship need to be completed before filing the papers. But for other type of visas, you wait for the instructions from your VO.

Hope this helps. All the best! :)
 
You can come to Vancouver with your girlfriend and still apply outland. Outland through the Berlin office is much faster than inland, so you would most likely have your PR within a year.

You have to have your medical exam before you submit the application. The CIC website talks about waiting until the medical is requested for applicants in a different class - spousal and common-law/conjugal applicants have the medical before sending in the application, and then send proof it was done with the application; parents, grandparents, and other relatives, and other classes of immigrants, send in the application first, and then wait for the medical to be requested.
 
Hi both,

Thanks for the info! I thought the WHP and the IEC were the same...Luckily the requirments are the same.

@ canadianwomen: Can you please explain why it is still possible to apply outland? because maybe on my IEC I'll be a 'visitor' and therefore planning to go back and therfore not really in Canada or something? Do I have to make it look then that we decided in June 2012 to stay in Canada? Because only in June 2012 we'll be eligible for common-law.

Thanks!
 
Ok, did some more digging.

What I found out is that we can do inland & outland processing:

1_outland:

Advantages:
Faster processing (around 11 months). If I receive my PR, I am immediately able to work in Canada.
Advantage of being able to appeal.

Disadvantages:
If the process is delayed, I won't be able to get an open work permit, and will have to leave the country.

2_inland

Advantages:
When we get through the first stage (9 months), and I send an application for an OWP with my PR application, I will be eligible and therefore can keep working.

Disadvantages:
Longer processing times (about 20 months).

Am I right about this, or did I miss something?
 
Yes, that's right. We usually recommend outland for people from countries that do not need a visa to visit Canada. Of course, every case is different.
 
In our case, what would you recommend? Are there any holes in our plan?

Thanks