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bellaluna

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Unfortunately, 'security checks' is one of those things that IRCC has no control over and until the checks are complete, IRCC cannot make a decision. But you could still try... The company should also include a letter that this job needs the citizenship.

Ok thanks. I will call them to check
Canada is not going to expedite a citizenship application for someone to work in the United States.
 

dpenabill

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Apr 2, 2010
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You sound quite delusional like someone affected by the COVID-19 virus. I feel sorry for your ignorance and lack of comprehensibility of this situation. You will be alright! Stay quarantined.
To be clear, however, generally IRCC does not expedite citizenship applications so a PR can qualify for employment abroad (in U.S. or otherwise).

Or to quote you with corrections: "Don’t say what you don’t [know], to deceive the public. IRCC actually" does NOT offer urgent processing based on a claim it is needed to qualify for foreign employment (in the U.S. or otherwise).

Many appear to confuse job opportunities for which a Canadian passport will meet the respective employer's requirements (which typically means there are other country passports, like a U.S. passport, which will meet the employers requirements just as well) as qualifying for urgent processing . . . some tend to equate jobs requiring a Canadian passport with employment qualifications legitimately requiring Canadian citizenship. Not how it works.

That is, some tend to interpret IRCC urgent processing reasons (see https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/canadian-citizenship/admininistration/general-file-processing/urgent-application-cases.html ) to be far, far broader than the actual policy or practice.

In particular . . . IRCC might expedite processing when

"a subsection 5(1) grant applicant has 1095 or more days of physical presence in Canada and faces loss of employment or of employment opportunity because they are not a Canadian citizen"​

With perhaps some rare exceptions, this is NOT about employment opportunities requiring a Canadian passport.

That is, the post by @bellaluna was largely correct, allowing for rare exceptions:
Canada is not going to expedite a citizenship application for someone to work in the United States.
Of course an applicant can always ask for urgent processing, explaining whatever reasons they have, and doing so should not have any negative impact no matter how unlikely it is that IRCC will actually expedite the process. And perhaps some total stranger bureaucrat will approve the urgent processing request. Stuff happens.
 

my4real

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Oct 29, 2019
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To be clear, however, generally IRCC does not expedite citizenship applications so a PR can qualify for employment abroad (in U.S. or otherwise).

Or to quote you with corrections: "Don’t say what you don’t [know], to deceive the public. IRCC actually" does NOT offer urgent processing based on a claim it is needed to qualify for foreign employment (in the U.S. or otherwise).

Many appear to confuse job opportunities for which a Canadian passport will meet the respective employer's requirements (which typically means there are other country passports, like a U.S. passport, which will meet the employers requirements just as well) as qualifying for urgent processing . . . some tend to equate jobs requiring a Canadian passport with employment qualifications legitimately requiring Canadian citizenship. Not how it works.

That is, some tend to interpret IRCC urgent processing reasons (see https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/canadian-citizenship/admininistration/general-file-processing/urgent-application-cases.html ) to be far, far broader than the actual policy or practice.

In particular . . . IRCC might expedite processing when

"a subsection 5(1) grant applicant has 1095 or more days of physical presence in Canada and faces loss of employment or of employment opportunity because they are not a Canadian citizen"​

With perhaps some rare exceptions, this is NOT about employment opportunities requiring a Canadian passport.

That is, the post by @bellaluna was largely correct, allowing for rare exceptions:


Of course an applicant can always ask for urgent processing, explaining whatever reasons they have, and doing so should not have any negative impact no matter how unlikely it is that IRCC will actually expedite the process. And perhaps some total stranger bureaucrat will approve the urgent processing request. Stuff happens.
Again, both of you are not authorities on this matter. So stop misleading the general public.
I have requested for my urgent processing of my citizenship application based on my job offer in the USA and this was granted by IRCC and I have also collected my passport at this point. Please only say what you have knowledge about. This is a public space
 

dpenabill

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Apr 2, 2010
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Again, both of you are not authorities on this matter. So stop misleading the general public.
I have requested for my urgent processing of my citizenship application based on my job offer in the USA and this was granted by IRCC and I have also collected my passport at this point. Please only say what you have knowledge about. This is a public space
I have driven 140k on the QEW multiple times (a while ago now and in extenuating circumstances), and approaching that on the 401 at times, and was not stopped or ticketed. There are rules and policies. And there are exceptions. Stuff happens. But make no mistake, driving 40k over the speed limit is NOT permissible, no matter how many of us have managed to get away with it.

And more than a few make misrepresentations . . . to authorities . . . and here. And get away with it.

I definitely am NOT an authority. But I understand basic reasoning. One instance does not a rule make. Even if the source asserting it was credible. Recognizing, however, that assertions about what the rules are based on individual experiences is contrary to sound reasoning and itself evidences a lack of credibility.

I offer my observations about urgent processing based on following CIC and IRCC policies and practices for more than a decade. I make a concerted effort to be careful about what I offer in this forum.

I can confidently state that generally, with rare exceptions, urgent processing of grant citizenship applications based on employment opportunities abroad is NOT granted.

In the meantime, given the situation unfolding now (talk about stuff happens), obviously no one (again, perhaps with some rare exceptions) is getting urgent processing any time soon. Regardless the reason. So any current suggestion that an employment opportunity abroad is likely to result in the urgent processing of a grant citizenship application is particularly and blatantly misleading.
 

my4real

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Oct 29, 2019
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I have driven 140k on the QEW multiple times (a while ago now and in extenuating circumstances), and approaching that on the 401 at times, and was not stopped or ticketed. There are rules and policies. And there are exceptions. Stuff happens. But make no mistake, driving 40k over the speed limit is NOT permissible, no matter how many of us have managed to get away with it.

And more than a few make misrepresentations . . . to authorities . . . and here. And get away with it.

I definitely am NOT an authority. But I understand basic reasoning. One instance does not a rule make. Even if the source asserting it was credible. Recognizing, however, that assertions about what the rules are based on individual experiences is contrary to sound reasoning and itself evidences a lack of credibility.

I offer my observations about urgent processing based on following CIC and IRCC policies and practices for more than a decade. I make a concerted effort to be careful about what I offer in this forum.

I can confidently state that generally, with rare exceptions, urgent processing of grant citizenship applications based on employment opportunities abroad is NOT granted.

In the meantime, given the situation unfolding now (talk about stuff happens), obviously no one (again, perhaps with some rare exceptions) is getting urgent processing any time soon. Regardless the reason. So any current suggestion that an employment opportunity abroad is likely to result in the urgent processing of a grant citizenship application is particularly and blatantly misleading.
Again it seems you argue to win not to learn and be educated. I’m sure even if a medical Doctor tell you a problem, you will stick to what you believe, even though you are not an expert in medicine.

Mr. Man I requested for urgent processing for job in the USA on the 3rd of March, 2020 after my application was 90% completed. This was granted and everything done before on the 14th when IRCC stopped any further activities but you still bet on winning an argument.
For the record: I spoke with more than 6 IRCC staffers during this process, including some specialists. Non of them ever said, I’m not qualified. So, stop your “I too know syndrome” and learn. Again, don’t educate the public based on your own personal opinion.

My application was granted based on the fact that I need my passport to get the TN visa. Please stop misleading the people. Thanks
 

dpenabill

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I’m sure even if a medical Doctor tell you a problem, you will stick to what you believe, even though you are not an expert in medicine.
Really. You are "sure" about this? As sure about this as you are that even though IRCC is currently not scheduling or holding any test or interview events, and NO citizenship ceremonies, they will grant urgent processing to an applicant to facilitate obtaining status to work in the U.S.?

It is absolutely certain you are wrong about the former. And almost as much so about the latter.

BTW, what makes you think I am not an expert in medicine? To be clear, even as an expert in medicine I would heed the adage usually offered in reference to lawyers: a lawyer representing herself has a fool for a client. That said, I do sometimes struggle with what to believe when my spouse (who has engaged in researching medical resources for other doctors professionally for many years) has a somewhat different opinion than my personal doctor, although that tends to be rather uncommon.

Much of what you report is simply not credible. I rarely challenge personal reports here. Even when true, personal reports can merely represent an anomaly and they almost never illuminate the rule. So there is no point disagreeing with assertions about this or that specific experience. But not all personal anecdotes are created equal. Some are more or less made out of whole cloth. Unfortunately.

In any event, I know with certainty you are wrong about my relationship with my personal doctors. So you are obviously not an entirely accurate reporter of fact. Even when you claim to be "sure." I will let others decide for themselves to what extent that compromises your credibility otherwise.
 

k300k3

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Mar 6, 2019
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I never knew that IRCC granted urgent processing because an applicant needed to get a job in the US.

And right after granting, IRCC gave oath. and then passport was issued with urgent processing?
 

my4real

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Oct 29, 2019
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I never knew that IRCC granted urgent processing because an applicant needed to get a job in the US.

And right after granting, IRCC gave oath. and then passport was issued with urgent processing?
You get a job before requesting urgent process. What’s the difference between granting citizenship and oath? (Quit dumb). Passport urgent processing take 2days.
 

orangecurtain

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Dec 9, 2019
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You get a job before requesting urgent process. What’s the difference between granting citizenship and oath? (Quit dumb). Passport urgent processing take 2days.
I highly suggest you learn to differentiate between "no" and "know" before you feel sorry for my ignorance and comprehensibility of your said situation... the one in which you seek to cut corners instead of standing in line and waiting for your turn like the rest of us.
 

soheilhs

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Sep 16, 2016
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I never knew that IRCC granted urgent processing because an applicant needed to get a job in the US.
If you are unemployed here in Canada, having a job offer abroad that being a Canadian is a pre-condition, would be consistent with what the IRCC referred to as the definition of Urgent processing. Anyway, different officers may have different approaches and interpretations of the law and exercise their delegation in different ways. So, you may even be employed here, having a better opportunity abroad and having Canadian citizenship is an essential element. So, one may say: why not? One may say you already established a job and income, so it's not an urgent manner.
 

my4real

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Oct 29, 2019
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I highly suggest you learn to differentiate between "no" and "know" before you feel sorry for my ignorance and comprehensibility of your said situation... the one in which you seek to cut corners instead of standing in line and waiting for your turn like the rest of us.
I didn’t cut corners Mr. ! Now I understand why you are so furious. Sorry bro lol
 

my4real

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Oct 29, 2019
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If you are unemployed here in Canada, having a job offer abroad that being a Canadian is a pre-condition, would be consistent with what the IRCC referred to as the definition of Urgent processing. Anyway, different officers may have different approaches and interpretations of the law and exercise their delegation in different ways. So, you may even be employed here, having a better opportunity abroad and having Canadian citizenship is an essential element. So, one may say: why not? One may say you already established a job and income, so it's not an urgent manner.
That’s very true. In my case, I lost my job in January
 

Flandernss

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Mar 5, 2019
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If you are unemployed here in Canada, having a job offer abroad that being a Canadian is a pre-condition, would be consistent with what the IRCC referred to as the definition of Urgent processing. Anyway, different officers may have different approaches and interpretations of the law and exercise their delegation in different ways. So, you may even be employed here, having a better opportunity abroad and having Canadian citizenship is an essential element. So, one may say: why not? One may say you already established a job and income, so it's not an urgent manner.
Whenever I apply for a job requiring citizenship I don't have, my application does not last 0.0023 seconds: it is refused. I have a hard time understanding how people get a job offer while failing to fulfill the most basic requirements. Especially in the public sector, where the hiring process is extremely streamlined and regimented.

Urgent processing on grounds of employment is a catch 22 demand of the IRCC, as far as I am concerned.