Citizenship by descent

[shadi000]

Hello,
Both of grandparents became naturalised Canadians in the 80's before I was born. My father back then also applied for canadian citizenship on his own. I am not sure when exactly he became a naturalised Canadian but most probably after I was born in 1990 maybe around a year later.
Does the rule of the second generation apply to me because my grandparents were Canadians before I was born or must my father as well have became a Canadian citizen?
Also when do you become a Canadian citizen, is it the date when you first applied and lived in Canada? And how to know for sure when my father was granted the citizenship? I only have his passeport and he passed away.

 

[shadi000]

This what I read and made me ask the question,
"For those born before 2009, it is also possible to receive Canadian citizenship if one of your grandparents was a Canadian citizen. While the law changed in 2009, the change is not retroactive, so if you were born before 2009 you can still apply for Canadian citizenship by descent if one of your grandparents was a Canadian citizen. You may even still be able to claim Canadian citizenship if your ancestors were born in Canada even a few generations back."

 

[scylla]

Hello,
Both of grandparents became naturalised Canadians in the 80's before I was born. My father back then also applied for canadian citizenship on his own. I am not sure when exactly he became a naturalised Canadian but most probably after I was born in 1990 maybe around a year later.
Does the rule of the second generation apply to me because my grandparents were Canadians before I was born or must my father as well have became a Canadian citizen?
Also when do you become a Canadian citizen, is it the date when you first applied and lived in Canada? And how to know for sure when my father was granted the citizenship? I only have his passeport and he passed away.

https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/born-outside-canada-to-naturalized-parent-special-case.565923/

 

[Copingwithlife]

This what I read and made me ask the question,
"For those born before 2009, it is also possible to receive Canadian citizenship if one of your grandparents was a Canadian citizen. While the law changed in 2009, the change is not retroactive, so if you were born before 2009 you can still apply for Canadian citizenship by descent if one of your grandparents was a Canadian citizen. You may even still be able to claim Canadian citizenship if your ancestors were born in Canada even a few generations back."

You’re reading something that is not from an official government site

I’d stick with Government of Canada sites, because that’s where you’d receive official information

https://canadacitizenshiphelp.ca/2018/02/28/how-youre-entitled-to-canadian-citizenship-by-descent/

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Hello,
Both of grandparents became naturalised Canadians in the 80's before I was born. My father back then also applied for canadian citizenship on his own. I am not sure when exactly he became a naturalised Canadian but most probably after I was born in 1990 maybe around a year later.
Does the rule of the second generation apply to me because my grandparents were Canadians before I was born or must my father as well have became a Canadian citizen?
Also when do you become a Canadian citizen, is it the date when you first applied and lived in Canada? And how to know for sure when my father was granted the citizenship? I only have his passeport and he passed away.

Your grandparents' citizenship has nothing to do with it, as they did not pass it down to your father.

If your father was naturalized as a Canadian citizen AFTER you were born, you are not a Canadian citizen. If he was naturalized BEFORE you were born, you are a Canadian citizen. You can apply for a search of citizenship records.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-0058-application-search-citizenship-records.html

 

[canuck_in_uk]

You’re reading something that is not from an official government site

I’d stick with Government of Canada sites, because that’s where you’d receive official information

https://canadacitizenshiphelp.ca/2018/02/28/how-youre-entitled-to-canadian-citizenship-by-descent/

The link you posted is a private immigration company, not a Government of Canada website.

 

[hawk39]

This what I read and made me ask the question,
"For those born before 2009, it is also possible to receive Canadian citizenship if one of your grandparents was a Canadian citizen. While the law changed in 2009, the change is not retroactive, so if you were born before 2009 you can still apply for Canadian citizenship by descent if one of your grandparents was a Canadian citizen. You may even still be able to claim Canadian citizenship if your ancestors were born in Canada even a few generations back."

Classic bait-and-switch; they are just trying to give you a general yet ambiguous and incomplete explanation to get you to pay them to file your application for you.

What they are not including in that statement is that the previous generation (i.e.: your parent) had to have Canadian citizenship; they are assuming (but not telling) that your parent also had citizenship. The same principle would 'piggyback' to each previous generation, thus they said that you could claim from your ancestors.

 

[shadi000]

Thank you all,
Then my last question is, when was my father considered Canadian. Is it the date his application got approved and started living in Canada? Because this definitely was few years before I was born. Or is it when he did the oath?

Thank you

 

[scylla]

Thank you all,
Then my last question is, when was my father considered Canadian. Is it the date his application got approved and started living in Canada? Because this definitely was few years before I was born. Or is it when he did the oath?

Thank you

Are you 100% sure your father naturalized rather than obtaining citizenship through descent? To naturalize, he would have first had to qualify and apply for permanent residency, then he would have had to have lived in Canada a number of years as a permanent resident, and only then would he have qualified for PR. So the citizenship application would only have been approved several years after he had already been living in Canada (not before he moved to Canada).

Are you certain he didn't apply instead to get citizenship through descent?

If he obtained citizenship through naturalization, then he wasn't Canadian until he took the citizenship oath.

 

[shadi000]

Are you 100% sure your father naturalized rather than obtaining citizenship through descent? To naturalize, he would have first had to qualify and apply for permanent residency, then he would have had to have lived in Canada a number of years as a permanent resident, and only then would he have qualified for PR. So the citizenship application would only have been approved several years after he had already been living in Canada (not before he moved to Canada).

Are you certain he didn't apply instead to get citizenship through descent?

If he obtained citizenship through naturalization, then he wasn't Canadian until he took the citizenship oath.

Yes, Unfortunately I am sure
So this means I am not at all eligible to obtain it in anyway except applying for PR. right?

 

[scylla]

Yes, Unfortunately I am sure
So this means I am not at all eligible to obtain it in anyway except applying for PR. right?

If he took the oath after you were born, then unfortunately you do not qualify through descent. Yes - in that case applying for PR is your only option.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Thank you all,
Then my last question is, when was my father considered Canadian. Is it the date his application got approved and started living in Canada? Because this definitely was few years before I was born. Or is it when he did the oath?

Thank you

Oath date.