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citizenship applications in delay from 2013 or before 2013 till now

jeune

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hello every body , I would like to write about any application that it takes more time than 2 years whatever routine or non routine application. if any body has any delay or received RQ , he could write here about his application , about time line about RQ , about ATIP , about CBSA , about Gscm notes, about his/ her situation because I think there are more delay for more applications all over Canada. we just need in this topic to explain your situation ,your experience, your delay , the reason of delay , your case, your file
thank you so much.

it would be great if anybody can participate in this topic. thank you so much
 

Philll05

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I haven't had any update, but just wanna inform that there are such record-breaking losers like me, probably not to be surpassed by anybody else among other applicants who, like me, applied in Aug 2013 and the application was started to be processed at the end of Oct 2013.
I never got a test date and practically nothing since my application was officially accepted (Oct 25 was started to be processed). The status-check just shows 'in process'. And that's it.
Can't do anything about it - I am as powerless as a miniscule ANT in front of the bureaucratic state machine. Even if I call, I think they will tell that '2 years haven't passed yet. Bye.' So not much to be done.
But just for the sake of informing you dear co-forumers - that's kinda amusing, taking into consideration that I don't have a family or dependents (no complication is there), hadn't left Canada a single time during 3 and a half years of PR status before the application. Never had any problems with anything else - real simple, almost trivial, case. Not a single message from 'the powers that be' so far. Can you top THAT! ;D
 

longwaitwithrq

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Philll05 said:
I haven't had any update, but just wanna inform that there are such record-breaking losers like me, probably not to be surpassed by anybody else among other applicants who, like me, applied in Aug 2013 and the application was started to be processed at the end of Oct 2013.
I never got a test date and practically nothing since my application was officially accepted (Oct 25 was started to be processed). The status-check just shows 'in process'. And that's it.
Can't do anything about it - I am as powerless as a miniscule ANT in front of the bureaucratic state machine. Even if I call, I think they will tell that '2 years haven't passed yet. Bye.' So not much to be done.
But just for the sake of informing you dear co-forumers - that's kinda amusing, taking into consideration that I don't have a family or dependents (no complication is there), hadn't left Canada a single time during 3 and a half years of PR status before the application. Never had any problems with anything else - real simple, almost trivial, case. Not a single message from 'the powers that be' so far. Can you top THAT! ;D
what does your atip say ?
 

Philll05

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Jun 5, 2015
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longwaitwithrq said:
what does your atip say ?
I don't know, to be honest, anything about atip queries in regard to the citizenship application process delays and I don't quite grasp what precisely I should ask in such an atip query. I'm afraid that such an atip won't say anything more than what I get from checking my application status, namely 'Name. Address. Applied at such and such time. In process' :). But if I'm wrong on that one and it can help in any way, I'd be only too glad.
 

Philll05

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longwaitwithrq said:
what does your atip say ?
I asked my MP officer (Niki Ashton's secretary) to try and look into this. Her secretary obviously made a query, and, the answer was along the lines of 'yep, the case is simple, I don't see anything abnormal, no red flags etc etc. Maybe they will process it before March 2016'. When I mentioned that according to CIC site they should have done it within 24 months, she even kinda started to take the assumptions on the side of the CIC, referring to CIC bureaucrats in a way like 'yeah, but that was what I was told...' giving the impression of a rather advocate of what's is given by CIC as if she herself is rather a CIC secretary rather than an MP secretary (that's, of course, in terms of the subjective impression produced in the context) And that's all that she could do, she said.
So, to cut a long story, her answer, if translated into simple English, boils down to a simple thing: "Yeah, you are right. Really simple case, no problem, but they haven't done anything... Maybe they will.. may be soon... I can't help you anymore. Have a nice day. Bye bye'. ZERO - precisely what one could expect.
Can't do anything. Totally powerless in front of the almighty state 'leviathan', as per Hobbs, and its freewill :)
 

janoo

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Hi... This is exactly happened to me and you have written a true story...

Am waiting from January 2012 no assistance from my Mp nor her secretary....
 

Philll05

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Jun 5, 2015
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It's not that I even had any special hopes when I went and asked MP, it was more of a 'pro-forma' act - to keep the conscience clean so to speak (for all those questions like "hey, didn't you try to ask your MP?" lol:)) - though the result was pretty much expected.
I would probably not even have taken the trouble to write about all that except that the topic was raised about those 'moths' like me whose full rights and freedoms coming with citizenship were mothballed', metaphorically speaking. So it's more for the historical record and fair balance of statistics. :)
 

Philll05

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Jun 5, 2015
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Got my citizenship on th 29th of Oct 2015 in after more than two years of waiting. To add insult to injury they - 'that powers that be' - after having failed their own deadlines gave me the citizenship just 10 days AFTER the federal election, making sure that additional 4 years of my main citizenship democratic right - vote - would be thrown out of my life (life which is quite limited in time in comparison with the indefinite continuum of "bureaucratic monster")
They crammed everything together - one day for the test and the next day for the oath, as I assume (and I don't see any other rational explanation in this case), because at some point they got concerned about the time element, and, goes without saying, not because they bear a tinge of any responsibility (including the ethical one) before those Canadians whom they don't hurry to recognize as such, but because their own piles of paper were so high that the lower bureaucrats became afraid of the higher bureaucrats above them according to their own "mechanistic laws". At the same time - that's a matter of course - thereby demonstrating (unintentionally though be it) that they can - if they want - technically deal with all this paper pile orders of magnitude faster than they do in reality.
No doubt, I'm grateful to Canada personified, of course, BY THE NATION (as opposed to the state) - by the Canadians, i.d. Canadian People including my friends, colleagues etc - who really helped me to become Canadian, who really make Canadian citizens.
But only because I haven't been held in limbo even for a longer time - till my last day - and have finally got the recognition from the state, I'm not particularly inclined to jump for joy, and my frustration with and ethical claims against the present practice of the state to have ZERO responsibility before residents and to be able to indefinitely hold in limbo their citizenship applications is not less one iota for that matter. (needless to say, that the hope of that very state bureaucratic machine is that most of the 'victims' of the procrastination would be so happy after they have got the citizenship that they will actually be endlessly thanking this very machine afterwards.. almost like in the case of the Stockholm syndrome)
And I wouldn't miss the odd chance to send the message to my federal MP and other political forces, the media and the society - within the law and according to the legal rights and means I'm entitled to by the Canadian law and Constitution - to change this situation and introduce transparency and REAL (even to the point of creating Ombudsmen) responsibility, and the reasonableness of the deadlines for recognizing those Canadians as Canadians which, by all the state criteria, met the requirements and were Canadians at the moment of their actual application.
A relative of mine immigrated to Sweden (through quite a convoluted way through his education and PhD work). Sweden, just to clarify things, has never ever been a specifically immigration-oriented country in the modern and recent history. He, quite expectantly, got his permanent residency in Sweden much later than I did in Canada, but he was granted his citizenship.. wait for it.. much EARLIER than me (and thousands like me), which is of course good for him, but SHAME ON the Canadian state (again, not to be confused with Canada as a country and as the NATION, which I respect, like and thank).