CHC, Islamabad Spouse Sponsorship Timeline 2011 -2012

[MRS SAM]

its nothing to do about pakistan i just said for pak that what ever is going on in our country that what they deserve N its in every other countries but our country people r getting sponsored here in Canada but no other country people would lyk to b sponsored for pak as u know .......so over all thats y all paki have to wait ..........N for psycho thingeee its all about fayzaan .

Pakistani people r getting sponsored all around the world ,,if u visit someother forum just like this for countries like,,US, Austrlia, u will find that,,,and am not saying we r against waiting ,,but the way TMAK is saying i dont like it...if she really dont like pakistan and pakistani people then why she came to pakistan for marriage...and no matter wht she say to herself,,,the way she said her parents r pakistani ,,that mean she is not ,,but just tell her to go outside in real canadian people not immigrants people will call her desi or asian not canadian

 

[sawera]

Pakistani people r getting sponsored all around the world ,,if u visit someother forum just like this for countries like,,US, Austrlia, u will find that,,,and am not saying we r against waiting ,,but the way TMAK is saying i dont like it...if she really dont like pakistan and pakistani people then why she came to pakistan for marriage...and no matter wht she say to herself,,,the way she said her parents r pakistani ,,that mean she is not ,,but just tell her to go outside in real canadian people not immigrants people will call her desi or asian not canadian

Yah sure people will go pak for visit but not easy for other country people to live there ..... Well for me I'm not againt pak but when forum members say y it's taking so long .... This shows how impatience they r ..... It's just a beginning …

 

[canadian immigrant]

Yah sure people will go pak for visit but not easy for other country people to live there ..... Well for me I'm not againt pak but when forum members say y it's taking so long .... This shows how impatience they r ..... It's just a beginning ...

Chill out guys ,stop fighting n criticizing each other,
we pakistani people always having a dilemma , we alway having love for criticism.we should do it but in constructive way,very sorry to say we are lacking very very far.
This is the thought that our media is transmitting in our minds.
I think pakistani people are among the most well mannered nations in the world.
But our problem is that since our freedom we had been lacking a good system which should govern our life. thats why we people are migrating to those countries where good systems are intact.
Same pakistani will behave different in canada and pakistan in terms of rule obey , respect for others etc etc.

I m not hurting some one. but we should shape our behavior in such a way that we love n respect each other.
Because where ever we go or live we will always be recognized by our country.All pakistani who r living abroad are representing pakistan every moment.

So its a humble request to stop fight n criticize each other,
Show love n respect for others.

 

[canadian immigrant]

Pakistani people r getting sponsored all around the world ,,if u visit someother forum just like this for countries like,,US, Austrlia, u will find that,,,and am not saying we r against waiting ,,but the way TMAK is saying i dont like it...if she really dont like pakistan and pakistani people then why she came to pakistan for marriage...and no matter wht she say to herself,,,the way she said her parents r pakistani ,,that mean she is not ,,but just tell her to go outside in real canadian people not immigrants people will call her desi or asian not canadian

We should not blame pakistani people ,rather we should blame its corrupt system,looteray politicians, and other social diseases.
we always having a big problem in ourselves that in pakistan we used to fight everywhere but in abroad we do it in same fashion.

Pakistani poeple sudher jao , stop talking on non issues.
No one from us cannot do anything with canadian immigration rules.However we can force them to change their thinking toward pakistani nation by representing our country in such a exemplary manner.we should work hard, showing positivity ,be modest at everywhere we live,talk ,deal with others.etc etc.
is trha bolne se ladne se kuch ni mile ga blke is trha we are strengthening their belief.
So people join hands to enlighten the name of Pakistan.
I am feel Proud to be a Pakistani n will alway be in my life .no matter where do i live.

 

[MRS SAM]

Yah sure people will go pak for visit but not easy for other country people to live there ..... Well for me I'm not againt pak but when forum members say y it's taking so long .... This shows how impatience they r ..... It's just a beginning ...

i ofton visit other threads also ,,even people who got visa within 6 month also complan that this wait is killing them etc...so basically we share over frustration,,anger, happiness ,,excitment with each others because we thing that we r family and we can understand each other coz we r going from same phase of life...when some one is happy,,or someone get visa we r happy with them,,wish them on getting visa,,but when someone is sad or frustrated why dont we give him shoulder for cry,,give few good word,,fayzan is little depressed and he take us as his frds thats why he share wht ever is going in his mind,,our duty is to calm him with good word and encourge him ,but instead of that we r using harsh word to make him more frustrated and depress.

 

[SD1234]

no sister no ..... I am not taking any sides .... i think that person is sick and needs help

come on he is not sick
he is jst frustrated
u pple must think positively
If anyone jst said to cuf into pieces
u pple are kids to blame him psycho

 

[SD1234]

I think he just said it. Doesn't mean he was ready to cut himself. It just shows how extremely fed up he is from the process.

agreed

 

[mianz]

Well I'm not telling u guys who u suppose to marry or not Coz we have already choosen our laloos panjoos ..... Secondly the timeline u talking about is Pakistan tht what this country people deserve y u forgot the Qatar where we have to stand for ever .... U living in such a good country n still u blaming them ....lastly stress is a part of life if it's not this way it comes in other way so u guys need to b patience I'm waiting for visa more longer n never acted lyk a psycho tht ill cut my hand etc these kind of men's r dangerous for their wife too...

+1

 

[SD1234]

+1

we are not jst pskistanis
we are human beings first

 

[SD1234]

It's not just nashukri, maybe it's just that sometimes the patience level gets lowwww lolzz

every normal human being hav mood swings
that's v much normal

 

[SD1234]

1.Hmmm so u agree that fayzan needs help.
2.u think he is Normal N all others who dont say these kind of stuff in this forum even u me N others r not haan.
3.he is the only one who always get frustrated not others who are waiting since 2010 .......even girls dont do lyk tht.
4.if he wanna cut himself so y dont he just do it y is he telling here ...........its not that easy.

everyone here needs help
that's y we all are here to share our experience and to got helped by eachother
that's so discourging to take a name or target him
everyone is differnt

 

[SD1234]

I just mean to say that everyone of us, even if we are going through the same sponsorship process, are different and unique personnalities from eachother..
Fayzaan has this funny side to his personnality where he gets so serious and frustrated about things at the moment but then with time when others give him advices he cools down too. I'm saying this because this is what i observed from his posts..
1. yes, I agree that he needs help but advises from people with respect. Maybe he needs help to cope with the frustration of this sponsorship process. Maybe, there are areas or fields where he is independant and doesn't need help like for his job.. This is true for anyone we need help from others in some areas and we can be independant in some..
2. I think we are all normal, unique, different from eachother.. because we wouldn't have been able to sponsor if we ran away from mental hospitals lolzzz
3. He's not the only one who always gets frustrated. We all can get frustrated but his patience level can get lowww easily compared to most of us when problems in the sponsorship process occur.
4. I studied the different stages that people who suicide go through.. After a study done at Mcgill University with the brains of all those who committed suicide the conclusion was made that depression leads to suicide.

Five stages of Suicide (or in this case self harm):

stage one denial- no i will not / can not kill myself i have to / will get through this

stage two anger- damn it this **** isn't getting any better everything is only getting worse and im running out of options of how can i get through this

stage three bargaining- turn to family, turn to friends, turn to religion, turn to medication, and therapist, try and try again to fight the urge of suicide but get no where

stage four depression- why does it seem like no one cares, why cant i fight this, what is wrong with me, i don't want to feel like this, i don't want it to have to end this way, i cant do this alone why wont anyone help me, why did it have to go this far, why did it have to get so bad, will this ever get better

stage five acceptance- **** it no one cares about me, the world will be better off with out me, my existence is worthless, i am never going to get out of this situation, the world hates me, i don't belong here, no one will even relies that im gone so why fight this, ive got nothing to live for, i cant escape this fate so i might as well be dead anyway

So If he is going through depression and telling it over here.. then the 3rd stage of Suicide explains the reason.
Depression can come to anyone and we need to help the people around us suffering from it..
Not everyone has loving mom dad sisters brothers always around us to cheer us up..

I agreed
read all these stages already in pychology

 

[SD1234]

Depression in northern countries is very common. anyone can go through depression and these 5 stages. At that very moment when he said that maybe he was at the stage 3 but things change with time emotions change with time we don't feel the same way 24/7..
I don't like calling people going through depression SICK because it's a phase through which anyone can go through and come out as healthy..

Anyways I had sometime to kill so I just gave my opinion. However, I don't take this forum as a court and myself as a lawyer trying to defend Fayzaan. I just shared my opinion, my knowledge, and my observations.
Peace

+1

 

[Farhan1]

i am sorry ..... this message was only for members that talk bad about pakistan and its people and at the same time they keep taking what ever they can from the very same country ....... pakistan is our mother land .... more like mother really ..... gave us more then we could ask for and yet some of are so ungrateful that they can not say anything nice about it

again i am sorry if i hurt your feelings ....... Allah pakistan ki hifazat karay

It's ok, bro. No hard feelings!!

And you are right. I think it's ridiculous that people can criticize Pakistan and its people as a whole out of hatred. What is worse is that Pakistanis themselves do it.

Don't wanna sound political on this forum but I think PTI is a new hope for Pakistan.

 

[TMAK]

I did not say anything out of hatred for Pakistan. For those you who got that idea, go back and reread and once you understand what I said then start throwing replies. I don't hate Pakistan at all. It has many good things to offer. Their food is the best in the world and their hospitality is unmatched.

Tell me one thing that I mentioned that is untrue? I was merely stating the facts. You cannot keep blaming corrupt politicians for everything. Everyone is corrupt. Corruption starts in our houses when we use illegal cable, when we give or take rishwat, and when we don't pay taxes. Even if this corruption is at a very small level and doesn't affect anyone much it is still corruption. Corrupt people deserve corrupt politicians.

As for Veena Malik, who are we to judge her? I am not saying I like her or agree with her but who gave us the right to spell out what is right and what is wrong? We are a nation where a man a woman were paraded naked through public streets, where women get groped or stared at by frustrated men in bazars, where rape goes unpunished. These are the issues that need to be addressed.

Criticism is another thing. Throughout this thread members have criticized Canada, but one criticism against Pakistan and everyone's feathers get ruffled. When it is ok for us to criticize other nations, religions and cultures then why can we not take criticism in a positive manner? Why are we so intolerant of anyone saying anything about our religion or country?

Violence is everywhere, that I would be a fool to disagree with. But nowhere has it reached such heights as Pakistan. When jalsas and jalooses happen on the streets people loot maar the shops. How is stealing money or destroying property of our own countrymen helping our cause? Why can we not protest like well educated people. Allama Iqbal said "the pen is mightier than the sword" but we Pakistanis never really use a pen do we? Someone in Denmark made cartoons of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and we burnt down shops and buildings damaging property of our own brothers. Someone in US made a film against Islam and we killed our own brothers in the process.

I am sorry if I have offended anyone but what I mentioned above is nothing but blatant truth. It's up to everyone to either face and accept it and start doing something about it at a small level (starting from changing yourself) or continue challenging it while the country deteriorates slowly but steadily.